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maxrandb

(15,323 posts)
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:40 AM Mar 2020

MSNBC Reporter this morning; "the president tested negative for Coronavirus, we know that"

Last edited Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:41 AM - Edit history (1)

Really? That's how you report it? "We know that"???

Not "according to the White House".....

Not "the president says he tested negative"....

Not "the White House put out a statement that"...

Not any preposition to modify it? We're going with "we know that"??

Did you see the lab results?

You know, this may seem like a small thing, but statements from the press like "we know that" is how we ended up with this assclown.

If he were a Democrat, is there any question as to whether they would put a prepositional phrase before "we know that".

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MSNBC Reporter this morning; "the president tested negative for Coronavirus, we know that" (Original Post) maxrandb Mar 2020 OP
Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, but I don't believe a word of it. Vinca Mar 2020 #1
I don't blame you Rorey Mar 2020 #4
If Trump is still walking around after 14 days, and at140 Mar 2020 #5
He may have a minimal response to the virus and they may be able to disguise the symptoms... liberalla Mar 2020 #57
I don't either. He's breathing; he's lying; he's consistent. sarge43 Mar 2020 #21
Good catch Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2020 #2
Or, they know the White House are bullshitters, and whether or not positive, they'd say negative. TheBlackAdder Mar 2020 #34
We deserve to see the Long Form health certificate Rorey Mar 2020 #3
It's not being ass-holey maxrandb Mar 2020 #6
- Rorey Mar 2020 #8
As a "media" jayschool2013 Mar 2020 #16
You mean like this story from the NY Times? jayschool2013 Mar 2020 #18
Maybe as a "media", you should direct your anger at your lazy colleagues maxrandb Mar 2020 #40
I'm too sensitive jayschool2013 Mar 2020 #42
I'm too sensitive jayschool2013 Mar 2020 #43
Your OP was spot on jayschool2013 Mar 2020 #45
You're right, and I removed it. Should not paint with a broad brush maxrandb Mar 2020 #49
True jayschool2013 Mar 2020 #56
Can I Nikki28 Mar 2020 #7
I'd prefer he doesn't die just yet Rorey Mar 2020 #9
If trump has it, pence has it WhiteTara Mar 2020 #46
- Rorey Mar 2020 #47
What treatment? 73 overweight breathing problems. High risk and bet he's lying SammyWinstonJack Mar 2020 #27
Why does he not release a copy of the actual test? LiberalBrooke Mar 2020 #10
We'll see it with his tax return MiniMe Mar 2020 #11
The test is still under audit maxrandb Mar 2020 #12
Sounds like a Trump line. Cracklin Charlie Mar 2020 #13
He lies. kentuck Mar 2020 #14
Exactly. WTF? Joinfortmill Mar 2020 #15
When you have a serial liar in the White House duforsure Mar 2020 #17
The fact that they said that, to me Bettie Mar 2020 #19
LOL, what proof could not be faked? nt USALiberal Mar 2020 #20
I don't believe it The Blue Flower Mar 2020 #22
Today would be a good day for Trump to release his test results bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #23
Yes!! ClusterFreak Mar 2020 #24
Just wait until he stops appearing in public. Or, even inside the WH. They will lie like a rug...... machoneman Mar 2020 #25
The doctor's statement merely says that he "received confirmation" Tanuki Mar 2020 #26
John Barron called in the test results for The Donald. SammyWinstonJack Mar 2020 #30
Yes, or course he did. But Scarsdale Mar 2020 #28
Should have said "At this point in time Trump had a negative result" LiberalArkie Mar 2020 #29
Even that's not good enough maxrandb Mar 2020 #41
BTW - I'm a shitty guitarist maxrandb Mar 2020 #50
Impeached-#45 is a congenital liar who is running for reelection. NCjack Mar 2020 #31
It is quite possible that the test really was negative mwf Mar 2020 #32
The press can see many of his contacts greymattermom Mar 2020 #33
Trumps are one big lying rotting genetic pool. Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #35
May not matter Dem2 Mar 2020 #36
He lies about everything lsewpershad Mar 2020 #37
I take that to mean he tested positive and Marthe48 Mar 2020 #38
"Working the Refs" LessAspin Mar 2020 #39
Trump was tested C_U_L8R Mar 2020 #44
And how many hands has he shaken since he was tested? How many time has he touched Nitram Mar 2020 #48
Maybe "We know that!" was said ironically... NewDayOranges Mar 2020 #51
WH Md report still a fit '239lbs'? empedocles Mar 2020 #52
Remember, this is the same doctor who went on a tv show to say LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2020 #53
If they are lying about his status they won't be able to cover it up for long. totodeinhere Mar 2020 #54
Really? How long have his tax returns been "under audit" maxrandb Mar 2020 #55
Journalism 101 treestar Mar 2020 #58

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
1. Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, but I don't believe a word of it.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:42 AM
Mar 2020

(Yes, I am that mean and nasty.)

at140

(6,110 posts)
5. If Trump is still walking around after 14 days, and
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:52 AM
Mar 2020

looks his usual self without elevated fever, then I will believe it.

liberalla

(9,243 posts)
57. He may have a minimal response to the virus and they may be able to disguise the symptoms...
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 02:13 PM
Mar 2020

Not every age 70+ person will be stricken ill. I will watch for more people around him getting sick. However now that the repugs have voiced their displeasure at RNC chairwoman Ronna McDaniel announcing her symptoms and self quarantine, I expect others will try to conceal it also.

We'll have to see who goes 'missing' around him...

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
21. I don't either. He's breathing; he's lying; he's consistent.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:40 AM
Mar 2020

And no, we're not mean or nasty, merely realistic.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
3. We deserve to see the Long Form health certificate
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 07:49 AM
Mar 2020

Maybe we should act as asshole-y about this as he did about President Obama's birth certificate.

maxrandb

(15,323 posts)
6. It's not being ass-holey
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:01 AM
Mar 2020

Last edited Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:55 AM - Edit history (1)

It's just asking the media to use prepositional phrases, adverbs and other types of modifiers as required.

You know, like "butter", as in...

"Hillary Clinton was the most qualified candidate to ever run for the presidency, BUTTER EMAILS"!

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
18. You mean like this story from the NY Times?
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:23 AM
Mar 2020

WASHINGTON — President Trump tested negative for the coronavirus, the White House physician said on Saturday, a week after having contact with multiple people who days later tested positive for the virus.

“This evening, I received confirmation that the test is negative,” the physician, Sean P. Conley, said in a statement. “The president remains symptom free.”

The announcement capped a week of uncertainty about the status of Mr. Trump’s health, as he decided not to quarantine himself and shook hands with chief executives who visited the White House and held meetings with administration officials working in the West Wing.

And it was greeted with immediate skepticism from Mr. Trump’s critics, serving as the latest reminder of how the president is squandering the credibility he needs in a moment of national emergency — especially when it comes to his health.

So maybe just telling people to fuck themselves sideways should be directed at the offending party, not all of us "media," eh?

maxrandb

(15,323 posts)
40. Maybe as a "media", you should direct your anger at your lazy colleagues
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:35 AM
Mar 2020

Not those that point out their laziness and propaganda spewing.

Want to improve the reputation of the media? Do your job. Call out shitty journalism when you see it.

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
45. Your OP was spot on
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:07 AM
Mar 2020

And a great example that I can use in my classroom.

Thank you for that.

Then you told an entire profession to fuck itself sideways.

No thank you for that.

maxrandb

(15,323 posts)
49. You're right, and I removed it. Should not paint with a broad brush
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:03 PM
Mar 2020

It's extremely frustrating.

This orange assclown and his Court of Asspickles is actually harming, injuring, and in some cases, maiming and murdering people I love and care about.

I can't stop thinking that the reason they are able to do that is because of shitty, inaccurate and downright criminal reporting from our "free" press.

Oh how I long for the time he's going to say "you know that, I know that, everybody knows that" and the media is going to...in real time...say; "I'm sorry, I don't know that, you don't know that... and who in the hell are these everybodies you speak of"

To me, that's not to much to ask.

Everytime one of these things slide by unchallenged, America dies a little inside.

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
56. True
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 02:02 PM
Mar 2020

Bad journalists fail to do what's right too many times.

The good ones are weary of being demonized by people all over the political spectrum.

The really braves ones aren't social distancing right now. They're out covering stories and uncovering information we need to know to survive these twin epidemics — Trump and COVID-19.

Peace to you and yours.

Nikki28

(557 posts)
7. Can I
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:08 AM
Mar 2020

Can I say that I don't care of DT took the test-test positive-test negative. I just don's care. I am more worried about the American people and others all over the world. I feel Trump was tested along with his pals in the Republican party who was mingling with him. This feels too much like he has already taken and treated if he had it. He is a con man and knows how to play American people. I jut do not care honestly.There is so much going on in this world to make me care about the crime family in the Republican party.

This is the first time I do not give a damn if a president died because I just do not care since he does not care about the country.Why should I care about him.I pray many is ok and will come out ok. They need to have someone who is not DT to make sure they are on top of the testing and make sure it gets to people to save lives. I worry about the kids in the detention, the homeless,the seniors ect.. Don't mean to be rude, but this is how I am feeling.

I am so sick of this man that I do not like news stations who has to replay his every word.That is why I love Rachael so much because she does what all News Media should be doing. Why keep showing his clips when they are nothing but lies. They keep playing his game of hogging the headline. I fear this is going to get us another 2016.I can't stand to hear his voice, see his face or hear him talk.I am sick of hearing about him. I just want to see some respect and compassion from a new President and all working government because this one has been corrupted from top to bottom and in and out. Our democracy is at stake, our country is dying, and this corrupt government do not give a damn and I hope we can survive this monster.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
9. I'd prefer he doesn't die just yet
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:13 AM
Mar 2020

I don't want him to be honored with a State funeral, and I'd like to see him prosecuted and convicted. And then there's the fact that we'd get Pence.

Now, if they could both kick the bucket, we'd have President Pelosi. That would be perfect.

WhiteTara

(29,704 posts)
46. If trump has it, pence has it
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 11:23 AM
Mar 2020

I understand that the virus is in fecal matter and transfers through the nose and mouth..

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
27. What treatment? 73 overweight breathing problems. High risk and bet he's lying
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:11 AM
Mar 2020

either as about being tested or getting a negative result
.

LiberalBrooke

(527 posts)
10. Why does he not release a copy of the actual test?
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:16 AM
Mar 2020

That would be more definitive. NO one can believe a compulsive liar. A letter from his doctor means nothing from looking at his history.

maxrandb

(15,323 posts)
12. The test is still under audit
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 08:55 AM
Mar 2020

"you don't release when you're under audit, you know that, I know that... everybody knows that"

and the MAGAts say; "sounds right to me... I'm everybody"

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
17. When you have a serial liar in the White House
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:19 AM
Mar 2020

Unless you saw him take it , you don't know anything, and reporting it from them is only spreading their propaganda for them.

The Blue Flower

(5,442 posts)
22. I don't believe it
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:41 AM
Mar 2020

His docs have been lying to us since his campaign. When they weren't singing the praises of his amazing, unprecedented health.

machoneman

(4,006 posts)
25. Just wait until he stops appearing in public. Or, even inside the WH. They will lie like a rug......
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:59 AM
Mar 2020

...rather than admit he's got it, he's sick and in bed. Man, the press will go gonzo with questions for every single WH, Cabinet and Congressional Repubs until they admit he's ill.

But, gee, he can't die on us as no work has started on the Trump Presdiential Library! It'll have an entrance portal of two tiny hands held up to a steeple point! LOL

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
26. The doctor's statement merely says that he "received confirmation"
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:08 AM
Mar 2020

that the results were negative. "Received confirmation" from whom? A laboratory report? Donald Trump? Stephanie Grisham? Jared Kushner? There's quite a bit of room for spin there.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
28. Yes, or course he did. But
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:13 AM
Mar 2020

was he tested for anything else, such as "the Creeping Crud"? I think he has a raging case of that, plus "stupidity". One thing's for sure "he ain't normal"

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
29. Should have said "At this point in time Trump had a negative result"
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:13 AM
Mar 2020

He could take another test an hour later and be positive

maxrandb

(15,323 posts)
41. Even that's not good enough
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:40 AM
Mar 2020

Example; "maxrandb is a great guitarist, we know that"

Saying "maxrandb is a great guitarist, at this time" is not telling the whole story.

"According to maxrandb's spokesman, max is a great guitarist" would be a correct way to report this.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
31. Impeached-#45 is a congenital liar who is running for reelection.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:16 AM
Mar 2020

He will do anything, anywhere, anytime to increase his probability of winning in November. Because losing makes him eligible for criminal charges on the day after his term ends.

mwf

(25 posts)
32. It is quite possible that the test really was negative
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:17 AM
Mar 2020

Trump is a known germophobe. He probably sanitizes his hands every time he steps away from a camera.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
33. The press can see many of his contacts
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:19 AM
Mar 2020

and can track who goes into social isolation. Eventually this would identify the likely source of the infection.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
36. May not matter
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:28 AM
Mar 2020

Either he gets sick and it's obvious, or people around him get sick, which is also obvious, or they're able to hide any cases, in which case we'll likely never know for sure.

LessAspin

(1,152 posts)
39. "Working the Refs"
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 10:33 AM
Mar 2020

Right wing media and social media have totally intimidated many, otherwise neutral, members of the media.

Thanks for pointing this out. I noticed it too but only by calling it out can we stem this tide.

53. Remember, this is the same doctor who went on a tv show to say
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:19 PM
Mar 2020

"He's in better shape than me." The doctor looked to be in his mid-40s.

Everyone in Trump's orbit lies, and lies so much that we've learned not to trust anything they say. Many things the scientists want to tell the public are being squelched by the WH. We're at the mercy of the Republicans (this includes evangelicals, whose lust for anti-abortion judges is unabated) who want Trump's re-election so badly they are willing to sacrifice thousand -- maybe tens of thousands -- of lives to achieve that goal.

#sad

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
54. If they are lying about his status they won't be able to cover it up for long.
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:24 PM
Mar 2020

But I do think it is quite possible that he has not been infected. An alarming number of people are getting infected everyday, but it won't get everybody. I have seen estimates that 40 to 70% of the population will eventually get infected, but that means that 30 to 60% will not. So perhaps he is not infected and I hope he is not. If he is not infected then that will free up a hospital bed for someone who is.

maxrandb

(15,323 posts)
55. Really? How long have his tax returns been "under audit"
Sun Mar 15, 2020, 01:09 PM
Mar 2020

This amphibian turd, and his Retrumplican Party enablers have told so many lies... I mean lies that are absolute bullshit... and some in the media just put them out like stenographers.

Hell, I bet they have 100 fat bald men on standby. Just put a red tie on, paint him orange, and put a shaved Golden Retriever ass on their head, and voila... Donnie Shit for Brains double.

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