Please take what I'm going to say here seriously..

[brooklynite]

I've mentioned my journalist friend who specializes in infectious disease and has been monitoring and reporting on COVID-19. She has seen contingency plans for an Italy-style lockdown in NYC and other major urban centers (including possible road closures and air/rail suspensions), and her view is that we should prepare for something as soon as Friday. As she puts it: decide now where you want to be and who you want to be with for the duration.

I'll note that there have been public calls for a NYC lockdown by the City Controller and members of the City Council, and that Dr. Fauci has suggested a national lockdown policy for up to two weeks. Additionally, Gov. Murphy has implemented a nighttime travel ban on NJ roads starting this evening.

I'm leaving tomorrow for DC to pick up my wife and bring her back to NY (preferably before evening).

[rufus dog]

1. Be safe NT

[Squinch]

2. I keep hearing rumors of lockdowns.

[Mike 03]

3. Thank you for sharing this.

Be safe, both of you.

[pnwest]

4. Funny - my gut instinct tells me the

same thing about as soon as this Friday. I think the closures have been announced in waves so we get used to the idea instead o shutting everything down all at once.

[Frustratedlady]

5. What if someone is traveling in the US?

I have family in Florida for spring break. Should I notify them to head home?

[brooklynite]

6. In her view, don't assume you'll be able to travel any significant distances

Italians are only allowed to travel locally for work, medical appointments or food shopping

[Frustratedlady]

7. Great! There are two families in Key West.

I'd best contact them. Thank you so much.

[cwydro]

17. I have friends in Key West.

Lived there for years.

I’m sure they’ll be fine.

[Frustratedlady]

20. They have to be back by Monday for school.

Even though the schools will be physically closed, they will be teaching online. It depends on whether or not they restrict driving from state to state. It sounds like if travel is shut down nationally before they start home, they'll be stuck in KW.

Two other members canceled their trip to Florida. Two are canceling their trip to Scotland this summer.

I'm about to scream, "Everyone stay put!"

[Amaryllis]

21. But we would still be able to go food shopping, yes? THey couldnt shut that down...they

can't starve us?

[EndlessWire]

8. Food

First they tell you not to stock up, then they tell you you can't go out and hunt for it. You have to do what you have to do.

If they want that, they have to go all out and give the governors what they need. Eff Trump et al.

[brooklynite]

9. Nobody has suggested that you can't go out to shop...

[Totally Tunsie]

25. Our RI governor just stated that closing the supermarkets

is not off the table if things get bad enough.

She just shut down all Dept. of Motor Vehicles satellite offices until further notice, and said afterwards they'll be operating by appointment only. The DMV!!! It's a horror show on a good day - can't imagine what it'll become now, especially with many still trying to get their "Real ID".

[NutmegYankee]

39. Closing down supermarkets would be suicide.

Food shortages are not good for a government leader's health.

[jberryhill]

41. They can go to the old school model

Where you make an order, the order is collected, and you get your order from the clerk, instead of having people wandering around pawing at the merchandise.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

53. I'll have one of them dark beers in a bottle, please.

[jberryhill]

56. You'll have what you get, and you'll like it.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

60. We still have stores like that. "If you don't see it, we ain't got it and you don't need it."

[cwydro]

18. Don't listen to what "they" tell you.

Now or anytime.

[jberryhill]

42. They told me you'd say that

[cwydro]

45. Lol!

I knew they would.

THEY are EVERYWHERE.

[defacto7]

59. Even in Italy you're allowed to get food and meds..

Same in Spain.

[beaglelover]

10. How would a lock down work? Would you be able to leave your house to get groceries?

Prescription drugs? Etc.

[brooklynite]

12. See #11

[beaglelover]

13. Cool, thanks! n/t

[cwydro]

46. Italy has kept groceries open.

[SoCalNative]

55. And pharmacies

France keeping both those open, as well as convenience stores and gas stations.

[brooklynite]

11. UPDATE: San Francisco residents ORDERED to remain at home

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142448875

[MissB]

15. Well, Monday instead of Friday...

[muriel_volestrangler]

35. "except for essential needs"

but, it turns out, "individuals are asked to avoid all gatherings except for medical purposes, to get food, or for work reasons", when you originally quoted it, is now:

People should work from home unless they provide essential services, such as public safety, sanitation and medical services.
...
Exemptions. Individuals may leave their place of residence to operate an essential business, including:

Healthcare operations, including home health workers;
Essential Infrastructure, including construction of housing and operation of public transportation and utilities;
Grocery stores, farmers’ markets, food banks, convenience stores;
Businesses that provide necessities of life for economically disadvantaged individuals and shelter facilities;
Pharmacies, health care supply stores, and health care facilities;
Gas stations and auto repair facilities;
Banks;
Garbage collection;
Hardware stores, plumbers, electricians, and other service providers necessary to maintain the safety, sanitation, and essential operation of residences and other essential businesses;
Educational institutions, for the purposes of facilitating distance learning;
Laundromats, dry cleaners, and laundry service providers;
Businesses that ship or deliver groceries, food, and goods directly to residences;
Childcare facilities providing services that enable essential employees to go to work;
Roles required for any Essential Business to “maintain basic operations,” which include security, payroll, and similar activities.

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/shelter-in-place-San-Francisco-Mayor-London-Breed-15135075.php

[Demsrule86]

14. Stay safe.

[aikoaiko]

16. And the setting for Escape from New York II emerges.

Who will our 21st Century Snake Plissken?

[sdfernando]

24. Wasn't that the one where he had to rescue the President from New York City

which had become a prison colony? Screw that....leave the orange anal pustule there!

[Poiuyt]

61. Perhaps our very own Snake Plissken

We do have a DUer with that username

[Wellstone ruled]

19. This could very well happen.

Now that the Orange Anus has thrown up his widdle hands and told the Governors you are on your own from here on out,you damn well can expect some harsh shut downs.

I am not responsible at all! Yup,we know Orange Anus,you have never been responsible a single day of your Putrid Life.

[bpj62]

22. Live in Northern Virginia

Got a call from a friend yesterday who is connected and he said Trump is going to announce the lockdown tomorrow and phase it in over the rest of the week. He did not mention Marshal Law but I really do not know how he could enforce a lock down without declaring Marshal Law. Having g a front row seat to this madness is no fun.

[cwydro]

26. Martial, not Marshall.

God.

[bpj62]

32. Spell check

My spell checker didn't catch it. Wow are you that sensitive over a grammatical error. I think I made my point despite the spelling error.

[58Sunliner]

43. Rudeness isn't required.

[cwydro]

44. Telling someone how it's spelled is rude?

Or is it ruder to let them run along looking silly?

Have you missed the thread ridiculing Rubio for the same thing?

[58Sunliner]

47. I guess I have to tell you that helpfully suggesting an edit is one thing. That wasn't what you did.

It was a put down or don't you see it? God.

[cwydro]

49. Um no.

I said, it’s spelled martial, not Marshall.

I figure we’re all adults here and don't need hand holding.

[cwydro]

50. Others pointed out the mistake also.

But you chose to attack me.

Interesting.

Again, did you see the thread about Rubio doing the same thing? Oh my.

[58Sunliner]

67. I don't give a shit about Rubio-stop deflecting please. You were rude, it wasn't necessary.

[jberryhill]

28. First off, it's "martial"

I don't know who Marshal Law is, but he doesn't strike me as very bright.

Secondly, you know who "enforces" most laws? People controlling their own behavior in response to laws for which they understand the rationale.

[cwydro]

29. No words.

[jberryhill]

40. I should offer you a better explanation

The way it is "enforced" is... There is nowhere to go.

[Dread Pirate Roberts]

23. There is no night time travel ban in NJ

"All non-essential and non-emergency travel in Jersey is strongly discouraged beginning tonight at 8 p.m. until 5 a.m. each day," Murphy said. "This will remain in effect for the foreseeable future. We want everybody to be home, not out."

he added:

"This is not a curfew, but it is strongly recommended and travel is strongly discouraged. If you don't need to be on the roads, you should not be on the roads,"

[lpbk2713]

27. I'm anything but a doomsday prepper.

But I have enough provisions to make it at least three or four weeks. All my immediate
family live within a few blocks of me so I could go help them if it was necessary.

[AllyCat]

30. Just curious: what is the rationale for nighttime travel ban?

Is the concern visibility?

[Tom Rinaldo]

38. My guess is that it is to clamp down on going to parties and other social gatherings

A lot of people tend to get together in group settings after the work/school day.

[erlewyne]

31. decide now where you want to be and who you want to be with for the duration.

This message I want spread around was copied from above.
thanks brooklynite.

[jberryhill]

37. This is going to be tough for people who were having extramarital affairs etc.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

57. Bah! Will no one think of us grave robbers?

[jberryhill]

58. You gotta sneak into the morgues

[Captain Zero]

62. Haha. Well not if it was long distance to begin with

The airport Fiasco's have already killed it in that case.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. Been having nightmares. In TX and want to be in CT

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In 4 weeks for my sister's cancer surgery. I promised her I'd be there. If I get up there fear I won't be able to get back home. If I get up there I'll worry that I carried something there that she could catch in her weakened state.

Good point about picking where you want to be now and land.

[cate94]

66. I'm sorry

That is a really tough choice. Of course you want to be there for her. I hope the four weeks in between will make the decision clearer for you.

It’s possible that surgery could be delayed, which makes it more of a conundrum. But maybe the lockdown will do what’s intended, and you can travel w/o worry. I hope so.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

69. Thanks. Have been thinking maybe just get in the car

and start driving. Then when I get there, self quarantine for 5 days.

[Evolve Dammit]

34. If we can get ahead ot this, there really is no choice but a multi-week lockdown. And stop flying!

[ancianita]

36. Big cities are not the place to be in a pandemic. If you have a choice, please go to a more

sparsely populated area of the country while airlines are still flying, or roads are still open for travel.

I don't know your situation, so of course you're doing what you think best. Just offering another perspective, is all.

Stay safe. All the best.

[Onelove Vt]

54. Small hospitals

Will go down first. Don t go to an isolated area and get sick. The resources will give fast

[ancianita]

63. Big city hospitals go down first. Better to weigh the contamination/hospitalization ratio. nt

[cate94]

48. I am freaking out now!

I’m in CA, my wife in IL. I’ve got enough food, but Goldie (our dog) and I would be awfully lonely. I don’t want to start a road trip back and get stuck in Albuquerque or Tulsa. The only comfort in staying is that I have in-laws here.

[blm]

51. Travel safe w/mrs brooklynite

And...thank you.

[Tink41]

52. My guess last night

was Wednesday. I do believe the Tsunami is coming. And reason being no one taking it seriously last week. I drove over to the local park to walk the dog. its in the center of town and everything looked normal, people coming and going stores, out with the kids. Stunning really. I've been cooped up for weeks unrelated to current events. These people had not a care in the world. They werent leaving the store w full baskets or hoarded toilet paper either. I'm prepared, knew it would come to this 2 weeks ago Sunday

[mountain grammy]

64. Thank you

We’re shortening our stay in NM and headed home tomorrow. Gotta beat the storm.

Safe travels to you.

[ecstatic]

68. Wish they'd just get it over with before I eat all my supplies! nt