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Botany

(70,482 posts)
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:11 PM Mar 2020

DeWine is doing the right thing. End of story.

And I have worked and fought for clean elections, democrats, and progressive policies in Ohio for years.

Mike is listening to real experts as per C-19 and keeping crowds down in polling places is the right thing to do.

The Dire Wolf is here and it is real.

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DeWine is doing the right thing. End of story. (Original Post) Botany Mar 2020 OP
I agree Ohiogal Mar 2020 #1
Bullshit ! stonecutter357 Mar 2020 #2
Nothing would make me happier than to be wrong about all of this. Botany Mar 2020 #6
Is it hopeless trying to avoid C19 infection we all have are going to get it.We may as well Vote. stonecutter357 Mar 2020 #12
DURec leftstreet Mar 2020 #3
I agree. SamKnause Mar 2020 #4
I imagine a lot of people were torn as to whether they should go out to vote Steelrolled Mar 2020 #10
trial balloon for trump shutting down all elections for one reason or another nt msongs Mar 2020 #5
+1000000 Pachamama Mar 2020 #7
No, this is no trial ballon ... I watched DeWine's presser yesterday and he was really scared. Botany Mar 2020 #9
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2020 #15
That's what Chump is paying attention to and taking notes. kairos12 Mar 2020 #28
Exactly!!!!!!! SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #30
I wholeheartedly disagree chillfactor Mar 2020 #8
Mike is listening to the experts .... This is not about stopping Joe B. but trying to keep .... Botany Mar 2020 #13
Just out of curiosity, who are you supporting for the nomination? HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #16
Joe B. and before that Elizabeth Warren. Botany Mar 2020 #20
I don't trust a Republican shutting down a Democratic primary. Coventina Mar 2020 #11
"This is not about health and safety." Botany Mar 2020 #17
Nope. Republicans have shown they have no morals. Coventina Mar 2020 #19
You just don't know what you are talking about. I saw his presser yesterday and he was scared. Botany Mar 2020 #22
Ohio Republicans have a very long history of disenfranchising Dems. Coventina Mar 2020 #23
Please tell me about OH politics and republican dirty tricks. Botany Mar 2020 #26
I assume you are being sarcastic? Coventina Mar 2020 #32
I have laid my ass on the line to protect voters and their right to vote in OH for years. Botany Mar 2020 #35
I thank you for your service, seriously, I mean that. Coventina Mar 2020 #39
Hubby voting in AZ 6AM tomorrow morning..he wears masks and gloves all the asiliveandbreathe Mar 2020 #14
It is the right decision... democracy is too important, as is the safety of voters. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2020 #18
Diktat rustbeltvoice Mar 2020 #21
I'm from OH and I know that DeWine is a snake. I even have real doubts about his election in '18. Botany Mar 2020 #25
There is a way to do this without postponing at 11th hour. He is a partisan hack SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #24
It was done @ the 11th hour because that was when the DeWine called the state of emergency in OH ... Botany Mar 2020 #29
All Sanders supporters want the primary delayed so he can hang on when clearly he has lost... Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #27
Couple that with a vote-by-mail option and I would tend to agree Zambero Mar 2020 #31
Kentucky postponed their primary from May 19 until sometime in June. Meadowoak Mar 2020 #33
That well may be, but THE NIGHT BEFORE THE VOTE ISN"T RIGHT! What the hell was he doing napi21 Mar 2020 #34
Seems like you haven't been paying attention to the rapidly evolving guidance onenote Mar 2020 #36
DeWine just called the state of emergency in OH on Sunday ... being one of the 1st states to ... Botany Mar 2020 #37
I detest DeWine 99 percent of the time Ohiogal Mar 2020 #38
No, he isn't eom. Sunsky Mar 2020 #40
Proportionate number of infections per state treestar Mar 2020 #41

Botany

(70,482 posts)
6. Nothing would make me happier than to be wrong about all of this.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:21 PM
Mar 2020

Corona Math

330,000,000 (US Population) x .40 (40 to 70% infection rate) x .03 (lethality rate W.H.O.'s # is 3.4%) = 3,960,000 dead

Today even Trump admitted this "thing" will go on until @ least August.

Trust me I am no fan of DeWine but he is listening to the experts as per C-19. The OH Dept. of health has
extrapolated the #s out to 100,000 cases in OH right now.

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
4. I agree.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:18 PM
Mar 2020

I am glad I don't have to go vote tomorrow.

I usually look forward to it, but not when we are suppose to be social distancing.

 

Steelrolled

(2,022 posts)
10. I imagine a lot of people were torn as to whether they should go out to vote
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:25 PM
Mar 2020

and are relieved by this decision.

chillfactor

(7,573 posts)
8. I wholeheartedly disagree
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:24 PM
Mar 2020

DeWine is playing political games and breaking the law by ignoring a judge's direct order. What do you NOT GET about that? So happy to see the other states involved in primary elections tomorrow are not disavowing the voters in their states. Joe Biden can win big tomorrow w/o Ohio voters.

Botany

(70,482 posts)
13. Mike is listening to the experts .... This is not about stopping Joe B. but trying to keep ....
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:31 PM
Mar 2020

.... people from getting sick and spreading C-19.

I live in Columbus, OH and I have laid my ass on the line fighting for fair and clean elections doing
election protection work for many years. I get "it."

Coventina

(27,089 posts)
11. I don't trust a Republican shutting down a Democratic primary.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:25 PM
Mar 2020

I don't and I never will.

Republicans are morally bankrupt.

This is not about health and safety.

They don't care about such values.

Botany

(70,482 posts)
17. "This is not about health and safety."
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:36 PM
Mar 2020

Yes it is. BTW on elections days I have gotten up @ 4:30 to 5:00 and worked sometimes
until past 9:00 fighting for the right of every legal voter who showed up @ the precinct I
was working @ to vote and their vote be counted too. I have faced down armed police
and corrupt republican poll workers in trying to get that done.

Coventina

(27,089 posts)
19. Nope. Republicans have shown they have no morals.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:37 PM
Mar 2020

There is no way he's doing this for any reason than to cause chaos in the Democratic party.

Botany

(70,482 posts)
22. You just don't know what you are talking about. I saw his presser yesterday and he was scared.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:47 PM
Mar 2020

BTW in his court filing DeWine is also seeking relief so everybody who wants to vote
in the primary can do so but just not @ the polls tomorrow and @ a later date.

Coventina

(27,089 posts)
23. Ohio Republicans have a very long history of disenfranchising Dems.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:49 PM
Mar 2020

I will never, ever trust that they are operating honestly.

They've well-earned my contempt and suspicion.

Botany

(70,482 posts)
35. I have laid my ass on the line to protect voters and their right to vote in OH for years.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:27 AM
Mar 2020

When the dead from C-19 are piled up like cord wood and the hospitals are overwhelmed
with the sick and dying what are you gonna say then?

This was not about trying to rig the elections but very legit public health reasons.

Coventina

(27,089 posts)
39. I thank you for your service, seriously, I mean that.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:48 AM
Mar 2020

But you will NEVER convince me of a Republican's good intentions.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
14. Hubby voting in AZ 6AM tomorrow morning..he wears masks and gloves all the
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:31 PM
Mar 2020

time - "he paints houses".. these last two weeks he has been to the grocery store, the weed store (they wear gloves too..always a high five)….

GO BLUE in AZ

rustbeltvoice

(430 posts)
21. Diktat
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:38 PM
Mar 2020

Republicans are relentless and have no respect for law.
DeWeasel looks mild-mannered, but has always been a highly partisan below the belt fighter (Clinton impeachment, dirty senate campaign against Sherrod Brown, etc). He had a case brought before a Franklin County (Columbus) court, using employees of Sec of State LaRose as plaintiffs late to-day. The judge followed the law, and rejected DeWeasel's move. Late in the evening, he has a state health officer, Amy Acton, to close the polls. That is really pulling one out of his ass. Well, Ohio has been a southern state for some time. This would be a precedent for other Republicans/Fascists in the future, and that would include Orange "Democratic hoax" Caligula, or President for Life Trumple-thin-skin.

Botany

(70,482 posts)
25. I'm from OH and I know that DeWine is a snake. I even have real doubts about his election in '18.
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:53 PM
Mar 2020

He ran scurrilous ads about John Glenn that were way over the top some years
ago.

Joe B. is gonna be the nominee. End of story. But in this case he is trying to do the right thing.
OH (along w/America) is just days away from a hell storm of death and sickness from C-19.

 

SiliconValley_Dem

(1,656 posts)
24. There is a way to do this without postponing at 11th hour. He is a partisan hack
Mon Mar 16, 2020, 11:51 PM
Mar 2020

He and Georgia governor are previewing the idea of no elections going forward. Mark my words.

Botany

(70,482 posts)
29. It was done @ the 11th hour because that was when the DeWine called the state of emergency in OH ...
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:07 AM
Mar 2020

... after being briefed by experts. The elections very soon might be the least of our concerns.

Just like many democratic governors did in their states too recently. DeWine was really scared @ his presser
yesterday. You could see the fear on his face.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
27. All Sanders supporters want the primary delayed so he can hang on when clearly he has lost...
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:02 AM
Mar 2020

And the price we may pay if Trump is reelected. Sanders should concede.

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
31. Couple that with a vote-by-mail option and I would tend to agree
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:18 AM
Mar 2020

By delaying the scheduled vote it's not improbable that future in-person voting might be even more risky. There could be no better time than the present to move to vote-by-mail. The more universal the better. Would also be more equitable so that long lines at certain poll locations and transportation / parking issues no longer penalize those who choose to do their civic duty.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
34. That well may be, but THE NIGHT BEFORE THE VOTE ISN"T RIGHT! What the hell was he doing
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:23 AM
Mar 2020

yesterday, or last week? Things haven't changed since last week other than spreading to more people.

onenote

(42,670 posts)
36. Seems like you haven't been paying attention to the rapidly evolving guidance
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 12:39 AM
Mar 2020

Not that long ago politicians restricting gatherings to 500, then 250, then 100, then 50, were being applauded here as doing the right thing. DeWine was being applauded for acknowledging that the situation was far far worse than Trump and his clown show was letting on. Now the guidance ranges from ten people to simply shut it down (Bay Area -- not exactly Republican stronghold). But now its a bad thing to listen to the experts?

More people will be disenfranchised if the election is held tomorrow than if it is delayed, since I would tackle my elderly aunt before I let her go out to vote. Or my immune compromised wife. Or my 70+ brother with a history of respiratory illness.

Sometimes this place can be so disappointing.

Botany

(70,482 posts)
37. DeWine just called the state of emergency in OH on Sunday ... being one of the 1st states to ...
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 01:03 AM
Mar 2020

... close all bars, restaurants, and now gyms. Believe it or not by DeWine is listening to the
experts and is trying to do the right thing. The #s are just staggering.

I watched his presser and he was scared witless.

Ohiogal

(31,950 posts)
38. I detest DeWine 99 percent of the time
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:11 AM
Mar 2020

But, in this case, he did the right thing.

Most of our poll workers are older retired folks. How would you like to sit there for 12 hours while everyone comes filing past you, touching pens, being too close.

Plus, there are still way too many people in Ohio who aren't taking this seriously. We have 50 cases, probably more by now, it goes up every day.

We are being informed that we'll still be able to vote through the first of June. So it's not like the election is being cancelled altogether, just moved ahead.

I have never voted for a Republican in my entire life .... I was for Warren until she dropped out and now I'm for Biden. I just don't see anything nefarious going on here.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
41. Proportionate number of infections per state
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 10:52 AM
Mar 2020

14 days from now? Will show if Ohio has a lower rate due to non-voting.

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