Just landed at LAX on a United flight from London. How did the screening go? What screening?

[Dennis Donovan]

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Ron Nehring ✔@RonNehring

Just landed at LAX on a United flight from London. How did the screening go?

What screening? No one ever collected the form! No questions asked. No temperature taken. Nothing. All the way through in 32 minutes.

If this is “screening,” we’re all in trouble.

10:27 PM - Mar 16, 2020

[jimfields33]

1. I hope we have some sort of screening before voting today.

[Squinch]

2. Assume you won't, and act as if the person next to you is medically fragile and you are a spreader.

There are ways to keep yourself and everyone else safe.

[denem]

12. I'm thinking there should be screening with the GE

for psychosis. Five questions or so on a simple form. People who answer yes on questions like, 'Was Donald Trump appointed by Jesus?' get quarantined.

[Ms. Toad]

18. What voting?

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Ohio's on-again (pre-COVID), off-again (announcement by the health department; lawsuit by governor), on-again (order of the court), off-again (formal health department order). A least the presidential primary is off (per the order). But I'm not sure how you vote for local issues since absentee ballots are no longer available and the polls are closed.

. . . the saga continues today

ETA: The supreme court stepped in and unanimously (2R, 2D) closed voting.

[jimfields33]

21. I'm in Florida

I just voted. Nothing different really. A few flimsy masks people were wearing. But that’s it’s.

[lapfog_1]

3. I'm sorry... it might matter if 50,000 people were arriving

from X country and ALL of them were infected.

Might.

We have 4500 diagnosed infections right now.

Chances are very good that means 45,000 infections.. possibly 90,000 infections.

And the rise is exponential, at a rate of 1.2 X every day.

so even if we took in those 50,000 people on 100 flights from Italy and they were ALL positive, it would dramatically add to the base of diagnosed infected, but in 5 to 8 days time, those people would add almost nothing to the probable infected population.

It was important weeks ago... like maybe 5 weeks ago when we had a chance of containment.

We no longer have any chance at containment.

What we are in now is mitigation by "flattening the curve" (dragging out the inevitable infection of EVERYONE by isolation as much as possible).

By dragging it out over months we do two things:

We don't overwhelm the hospitals ( we hope) thus giving that 3% of really sick people the best chance to live because they can be supported by ventilators and ICUs and doctor and treatment of subsequent infection (bacteria).

And, two, some will make it a year without being infected... and we have either medication or vaccine at that time.

But right now... we are on the same path as Italy... and that is really bad... max higher death rate than China... which experienced something like 2% fatality, Italy is much higher.

We will see shortly the effect of the nation wide lock down in Italy. The one thing we have in our favor is that we don't live in extended family units... meaning the isolation is much better for us. By living in extended households, someone who is infected but not diagnosed, there is a good chance of passing it to someone that is likely to die from it.

OTOH, we are slow to adopt a "lock down" mentality so...

[Dennis Donovan]

5. I keep looking at the video form the weekend showing repatriated Americans pressed together

...at airports supposedly being "screened", thinking of the virus bouncing off each of them, infecting everyone.

[lapfog_1]

8. math doesn't lie

there were, what, 10,000 people crushed together?

Someone in each group was obviously infected (mathematically certain). And they infected (in those few hours they were crushed together)... possibly as many as 100 around them

It won't matter.

I mean for the people in the crush that get infected AND are 17% that get seriously ill... it makes a huge difference... and I'm very sorry for them.

But for the US in general... it won't matter.

[Hortensis]

9. Agree. China officially informed the WHO on December 31.

It's way too late. The disease is loose and raging.

Btw, speaking of responses, our neighbors in Canada have been doing far better than us, but one province will apparently limit testing due to lack of supplies. Trudeau is closing borders to noncitizens, though not to Americans for the moment because of the "level of integration" between us.

All Canadian citizens abroad are warned to return home. Here in Florida we knew a lot of Canadian snowbirds would be returning home early, to be home but also to eliminate any chance of breaking the time limit for healthcare coverage out of country. Yesterday we saw a few Canadian RVs on the highway, expect those early departure dates are also being moved up and there'll be a lot more even tomorrow. The prospect of not being allowed to enter at all would be scary.

CNBC: There have been nearly 340 reported cases of coronavirus in Canada, with one death related to the virus.

Trudeau said that Canadians who are traveling outside of the country currently should return “while it is still possible to do so." “Let me be clear, if you’re abroad, it’s time to come home,” Trudeau said. And, he noted, “If you’ve just arrived, you must self-isolate for 14 days.” “Anyone who has symptoms will not be able to enter Canada.”

Macleans: Coronavirus in Canada: These charts show how our fight to flatten the 'curve' is going: The good news? The country's overall case numbers remain low. The bad? The caseload is rising and we have limited time to get ahead of it.

[Indykatie]

4. My Grand Daughter Flew Home from Japan 2 Weeks Ago via LAX and There Was No Screening

I thought that was strange even then.

[lapfog_1]

6. I t was very very important 2 to 4 to maybe 6 weeks ago

not so much anymore.

At this point the scientists are thinking about how to save the max number of people if we ALL (near 100%) come down with it.

Hence the "flatten the curve" strategy.

What they don't tell you is that the area under the curve (i.e. the population that gets the virus), is the same number. Everyone.

We are all going to get infected. Unless you can maintain isolation for as long as the vaccine takes or some effective treatment.

[dansolo]

7. They've gone to the opposite extreme

The administration didn't like the news of long lines and crowds waiting at the airports, sothey are probably trying to rush people through as quick as possible.

[uponit7771]

10. Yep, on purpose bluer areas get greatest infections and can't vote ... Red Don wins election.

[octoberlib]

11. A guy from Beaufort , SC flew home from London and wasn't tested either.

He has coronavirus and so far 3 other people he came in contact with now have it. A lot of these cluster outbreaks could have been avoided if they were testing at the airports.

[jberryhill]

13. And if they back people into a bottleneck at the airport...

...then he would have infected 1000 other people.

At this point, screening at the airport is counterproductive.

[cwydro]

15. Do you have a link to that? I have friends in Beaufort, who are both elderly.

I’d like to let them know.

[octoberlib]

17. Sure. My mom lives in York county so I keep up on all the SC info

The town of Bluffton and Beaufort County governments both issued state of emergency proclamations Monday, citing efforts to prevent or limit the local spread of the coronavirus and fund emergency resources as necessary.

The declarations came two days after the South Carolina Department of Health and Environmental Control announced that three people in Beaufort County had tested positive for the virus and were in isolation.

DHEC said two of the people “are close contacts of each other and had known exposure to a confirmed case of COVID-19 from another state.” The third person “has no known connection to any other case and recently traveled internationally.”

https://www.blufftontoday.com/news/20200316/coronavirus-bluffton-beaufort-county-declare-state-of-emergency

[cwydro]

19. Thanks!

[FailureToCommunicate]

14. Welcome back home to Amerika. Now, stay in your home, and vote Republican...

when, of if, we ever get around to holding elections again.

[spanone]

16. Fake screening from a fake 'president'

[greenjar_01]

20. They swing wildly from counterproductive bottlenecks to no screening at all

No plan and no implementation process.

They are not "details" people. But the virus is in the details.

[crickets]

23. This. It's maddening. nt

[lindysalsagal]

22. I expected this: No leadership means no one considers it their job to manage this.

I'm sure the gangster in chief instructed the airports to stop so the bad news optics of airport crowds from yesterday could be avoided.

[lpbk2713]

24. The lip service is what counts.

As long as Trump & Co are putting out a line of bullshit it will keep them afloat for a while.