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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:16 PM Mar 2020

The airline industry is asking for 50 billion in response to this crisis.

What did that industry do with the billions they receive from the Trump/GOP tax cut for the rich?

They used that tax cut money to buy back their stock, and to give bonuses to their high level executives. Many other businesses did so as well.

Remember, socialism for the rich, and austerity for the rest.

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The airline industry is asking for 50 billion in response to this crisis. (Original Post) guillaumeb Mar 2020 OP
They used their cash to buy back stock. Quemado Mar 2020 #1
I did see that after I posted this. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #2
The answer should be :: GET IN LINE behind far more deserving joe-6-packs. n/t MFGsunny Mar 2020 #3
Lines are for workers. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #4
Eggs-actly. MFGsunny Mar 2020 #8
That's just it Windy City Charlie Mar 2020 #12
Ab-so-fucking-lutely!!! Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #19
Evidently.. Windy City Charlie Mar 2020 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author sop Mar 2020 #6
This is why the Democrats in Congress need to watch the Repukes very carefully. They will glom onto Frustratedlady Mar 2020 #7
Exactly Windy City Charlie Mar 2020 #9
Always follow the money. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #15
What kind of capitalists are these? Cirque du So-What Mar 2020 #10
The free market never existed under capitalism. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #16
I agree Cirque du So-What Mar 2020 #22
Understood. eom guillaumeb Mar 2020 #23
Naomi Klein warns of 'coronavirus capitalism.' alwaysinasnit Mar 2020 #11
Nobody is supposed to be traveling anyway mindem Mar 2020 #13
Right or wrong, feds will likely subsidize industry. Airlines employ millions workers, directly or Hoyt Mar 2020 #14
If there are restriction son the money to industry, guillaumeb Mar 2020 #18
No, just no. smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #17
Sure superpatriotman Mar 2020 #20
And no stock buybacks. guillaumeb Mar 2020 #21

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
12. That's just it
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:38 PM
Mar 2020

We have all these Trumpers crying around about socialism, yet them and the corporations they trust so much, will be the first ones with their hands out wanting their hand on their government check.

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
5. Evidently..
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:25 PM
Mar 2020

It sounds like some in the Senate are proposing to go in the same direction with the crisis bill. They want to start by taking care of the businesses, corporations and the financial sector first and so on at the top and then work their way down. Not liking that at all!

Response to guillaumeb (Original post)

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
7. This is why the Democrats in Congress need to watch the Repukes very carefully. They will glom onto
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:29 PM
Mar 2020

any opportunity to fill their pockets and to hell with the rest of us who actually pay the taxes.

As soon as Trump mentioned the airline industry (and slid quietly into the hotel industry), I could see he was mostly interested in his area of business not the general public.

Someone said this morning that the last bailout/tax break for the airlines was used to buy back stock to increase the profits of their shareholders. The stock market is too complicated for most of the general public to detect any shenanigans going on, but there should be enough savvy citizens that are up-to-date on the current loopholes to know when Trump is helping them and ignoring us.

Windy City Charlie

(1,178 posts)
9. Exactly
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:33 PM
Mar 2020

I'm fearing McConnell and the leaders in the senate will re-write this bill so much it won't look anything like the bill the house passed.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
15. Always follow the money.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:10 PM
Mar 2020

And yes, welfare for the same companies that used their Trump/GOP tax cut to buy back stock and buy other companies is rewarding bad behavior.

Cirque du So-What

(25,928 posts)
10. What kind of capitalists are these?
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:35 PM
Mar 2020

Whatever happened to the free market and Darwinistic survival of the fittest? Maybe it's time to let the dinosaurs go extinct and allow some up-and-comers to pick up the pieces.

mindem

(1,580 posts)
13. Nobody is supposed to be traveling anyway
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:39 PM
Mar 2020

let their frickin jets just sit there. People can get in a car and drive.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
14. Right or wrong, feds will likely subsidize industry. Airlines employ millions workers, directly or
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 02:46 PM
Mar 2020

indirectly, in some of our best paying jobs.

They certainly don't deserve whatever they request, and if we had a lot of time to study it, maybe airlines -- and related industries -- don't deserve anything. But, I suspect the feds will look it as a prudent investment in ensuring good jobs for many years down the road. I would also bet, we see some restrictions on how the money is used.

I'm also assuming there will be direct payments to employees in lots of industries that lose their jobs or significant hours.

Unfortunately, those $12 - $18 an hour jobs that were going unfilled -- that we griped about just a few months ago -- will suddenly become the good old days.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
18. If there are restriction son the money to industry,
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:13 PM
Mar 2020

including prohibitions of certain behavior, that might work. But far more important is money directly to all workers. Demand drives the economy, not tax cuts for the rich.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
21. And no stock buybacks.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:16 PM
Mar 2020

If this money were given with the proviso that companies receiving welfare cannot pay dividends or buy back stock for 2 years, that might work.

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