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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt is past time for Hoard Shaming
Cases of toilet paper? Really? What's next, snow shovels in April? Morons.
Meat. Has the population spiked so we need more? Morons.
Lettuce. I saw a woman leaving the local Safeway with 8 heads of iceberg lettuce? Hey lady, do you know that shit will rot before you eat it? Do you know you can't freeze lettuce? Moron.
Generic Windex is leaving shelves in pairs or foursomes. Do you live in a glass house? Moron.
What are you seeing?
I think it is time to start Hoard Shaming these morons.
Kali
(55,003 posts)Funtatlaguy
(10,862 posts)Did you see the movie My Big Greek Wedding?
Windex cures everything.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,722 posts)I use that to dust with. As well as cleaning.
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)Great comedy
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,722 posts)And breads, tissues, jarred sauces, canned goods, frozen veggies, coffee, pasta, bleach, cleaning products, etc., were NO WHERE to be seen. It looked like Soviet Russia.
bdamomma
(63,799 posts)buy what you need.
Marthe48
(16,898 posts)n/t
leftieNanner
(15,062 posts)And the receptionist mentioned that she had no TP because all of the stores she had checked were out. So when I went back to pick up my computer, I took her two rolls. You would have thought I gave her two gold bricks!
Well, because this is Ashland, Oregon, she did ask me if it was recycled! I assured her that it was.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)does one recycle toilet paper?
Just kidding, I know that it's made out of recycled fibers, but strange things occur to me every once in awhile!
leftieNanner
(15,062 posts)My husband had the same question!
TheBlackAdder
(28,167 posts)consider_this
(2,203 posts)... that those you see buying are hoarding for themselves. They may be shopping for neighbors or other shopping service. Just sayin'
MissB
(15,803 posts)Im at work at 6 am and cant run out to Costco for toilet paper at 10 when it opens. My brother has much more flexible hours than I do - so he can buy some for me.
Just an example (I dont currently need toilet paper but when I do, Ill have my bro pick some up)
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)ChazII
(6,202 posts)went to the store and was able to pick up two packages of toilet paper and two rolls of paper towels for her next door neighbor who is their 70's.
GemDigger
(4,305 posts)is hoarding.
wishstar
(5,268 posts)Although my friends and neighbors are mostly over 60, many have parents in their 80's and 90's living independently but with serious underlying medical conditions so they are shopping for them too.
My spouse and I no longer have any elderly relatives, but we have told our neighbors and friends that if they need anything later on, we will take them stuff since we are extremely well stocked with necessities.
captain queeg
(10,092 posts)Maybe someone on Fox told them to bathe in it?
MissB
(15,803 posts)You can safely freeze it.
Disaffected
(4,545 posts)with 1% and it seems to work well - tastes just as good after thawing. Much preferable IMO to the shelf-stored cartons (or evaporated milk).
As you mention, leave room for expansion or you may have a mess.
consider_this
(2,203 posts)Might have young children to worry about
woodsprite
(11,904 posts)Wednesdays
(17,312 posts)That was what really turned me on to almond milk. Keeps in the fridge for two months instead of two weeks (if that)!
woodsprite
(11,904 posts)Wednesdays
(17,312 posts)We usually just get the store brand from ALDI. If you're a newbie, try the chocolate flavor to start. My SO won't drink it unless it's the sweetened kind, but I use unsweetened to make coffee with, and I don't mind drinking it straight.
Almond Breeze is good, too, though usually more expensive.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)unsweetened is great in cereal, and it doesn't have that bitter "fat" aftertaste that cow's milk does
They even carry it at our Grocery Outlet (Portland OR)
JudyM
(29,192 posts)and an easier entry point than almond milk, IMO, though Ill probably only buy it on sale. The almond milks I like the most are Targets and Wegmans organic unsweetened store brands. Unsweetened vanilla might be another good place to start. Good luck, its worth changing
Salviati
(6,008 posts)... I was smart enough to grab my milk from the office when I was down there yesterday (gotta have it for my coffee), but forgot to bring it in from the car. I'm glad it didn't sit in there until the next time I use the car, which would might have been as late as Friday.
I mean, it's not like it's safe to drink any more, but at least it didn't go completely bad enough to foul the car.
At least it was only about a pint and a half.
Croney
(4,656 posts)seniors, and others. The woman with the lettuce might be making salad for meals that get distributed. She knows it's perishable.
ChazII
(6,202 posts)who are shopping for elderly neighbors or in one case a family member who had hip surgery several weeks ago.
RockRaven
(14,898 posts)Looked like 1L bottles, or maybe 20oz. A six foot tall, four foot wide block of water and plastic. That's about 1500 bottles of water, plus or minus a couple hundred. There are TWO people living in that house.
dhol82
(9,352 posts)Right?
RockRaven
(14,898 posts)I'm in a neighborhood which gets Hetch Hetchy System water. Long story short it's surface water/snowmelt from inside Yosemite National Park. Our municipal water system has a fancy new treatment plant, the water mains on our street and the main street in town have been replaced within the past 2-3 decades, the house they live in is less than 10 years old -- so there's not a lead pipe in sight and the treatment for microbes is multi-layered. And it tastes great.
I don't get it. But I will say in their favor that they did not clean out a store and make trouble for other customers by generating empty shelves. Then again, the local stores have not had near-empty shelves of bottled water because a lot of people simply aren't panic-buying water in my town, that I've seen.
dhol82
(9,352 posts)We are supposed to have the best tasting water in the country. Dont understand why, during a pandemic, people are scrambling for water? They can just turn on their freaking tap.
Guess it comes from hurricane preparedness. Still weird.
Wednesdays
(17,312 posts)they could just get a Brita pitcher and use tap water!
Rosco T.
(6,496 posts)better filtration and tastes better
TheFarseer
(9,317 posts)I sure as hell dont understand hoarding it!
gibraltar72
(7,498 posts)No leadership no clear message. People assume the worst is going to happen. I understand why it's happening.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)People are not being reassured that the supplies will come back in line with need.
People are afraid, and getting no trustworthy information or confidence from Trump.
They say stock up but dont say for how long. Theyve thrown out a two week time frame, but I think most of us realize thats not being realistic.
Im not condoning any hoarding. But I can see why its happening.
KT2000
(20,568 posts)He needed things for his business but not TP. There was a line because they allow only so many in the store at a time. When he got into the store, an employee was putting a pack of TP in everyone's cart. Then he happened to be near the TP when he saw a woman drive her cart into the back of a man standing there. He said "pardon me" and then his wife returned to the scene and the two women started a shoving match. Some Costco employees arrived but didn't know what to do and the fight continued. Then a rather large man who works in the meat department arrived wearing his white coat and stood between the women. The fight broke up at that point. That was Tacoma, WA.
llmart
(15,532 posts)that we needed to start rationing. A week later I see my Kroger has limits on many items. It should have been mandated of all the big grocery chains.
RockRaven
(14,898 posts)the one who had signs limiting to 2 packages (of any size) per customer. The other two had no signs and empty shelves -- one of the empties was of the same chain (Safeway) as the one with the signs.
There is plenty of food and TP to go around, just perhaps not at the very end of the supply chain at this exact moment because of panic-buying/hoarding; everyone needs to chill out and stop making problems for their neighbors.
Kaleva
(36,248 posts)Living on SSDI, it took me many months to build up a stock so when COVID-19 hit the news, it took just a little adjusting to prepare for that. Disinfectant wipes, masks, bleach, hand sanitizer and such.
chia
(2,244 posts)Most of the time we really don't know what the other shopper is doing, what worries are on on their minds, what other people they're trying to help. I have enough toilet paper, I bought that TP (only 1 allowed) for a family who was going to be needing it soon. Other food in my cart was for another family, and I delivered the items to their porches on the way home.
So I won't be hoard-shaming anyone, and I hope most people will be kind, look out for one another, resist the impulse to buy more than they need for themselves - and try not make assumptions when they don't know what the lives of others are like.
sarisataka
(18,483 posts)Over half the toilet paper shelf is full. Plenty of meat and produce.
There are about 50% more people shopping than typical for a Tuesday evening but no one is buying outrageous quantities. Enough to feed a family for 2-3 days is what most are getting.
pecosbob
(7,533 posts)KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)I had whittled down on fresh. Had a trip planned. Cancelled because of the virus. I am like you.. fine on all the basics.... at this point there does not seem to be an onion left in any store in America.
Better chance of getting TP... which I do not need
BlueSpot
(855 posts)I can re-hydrate them with hot water prior to cooking. Not the same as fresh but not quite as far away as onion powder either.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,587 posts)which would explain milk, fresh produce and other perishables. I'm having my groceries delivered, meaning somebody had to go through the store and collect the stuff I ordered. And I'm quite sure I'm not alone.
vapor2
(1,240 posts)but please note that we are all reacting to fear of the unknown. We do not know how long we will be isolated. I had many rolls of paper towels before this pandemic. I do understand items that do not spoil but surely not the lettuce. I recall the gas rationing in 1973 and the fears of Y2K. Maybe people are also shopping for family or friends and people are just reacting and panicking, no need to shame anyone
apcalc
(4,462 posts)Maybe the lady was buying lettuce for her elder neighbors. You just have no idea.
An elderly neighbor wrote to some of us today to ask if anyone was going to Wegmans to pick up something for her.
People who have family members who are immunocompromised have to stock up on some things and buy for them.
No, I will not be shaming others who stock up. I did a few weeks ago because I have asthma and am 70 years old.
I am grateful I had the foresight to do so, so I am ok for now.
My pulmonologist said to me ( re anyone over 60, he is 62 ish)
. Were sitting ducks. Stay Home. I fully expect this thing to last 8-20 weeks .
No one can know what others are doing, what issues they face, and who they might be buying for.
Amishman
(5,554 posts)seems like at best they'll laugh in your face, at worst it will lead to a violent confrontation
llmart
(15,532 posts)coming from someone called "Amishman".
Amishman
(5,554 posts)They don't shame, which is too confrontational. Shunning is ceasing to acknowledge that someone even exists, much more passive aggressive and the Amish way.
LakeArenal
(28,802 posts)We shouldnt judge anyone that is just trying to cope with panic and whats the best for my own family.
totodeinhere
(13,056 posts)everybody. So we should discourage hoarding.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Under The Radar
(3,401 posts)burrowowl
(17,632 posts)BBbats
(89 posts)I live in a basement /room & can't really cook but I figured I should get a couple weeks worth of canned stuff,cereal,stuff that would keep.
I live real close to an Aldi.Beef & chicken were ransacked.Most of the Chunky type soups were gone except for the house brands.Canned stuff in general was pretty light. Lots of Latin canned stuff like tamales,refried beans,etc.Most name brand cereal was out but there was a good stock of house brands.I bought a few canned items,cereal,almond milk,tuna & peanut butter crackers. I'm light on $$$ & I'm only trying to buy what I need.
Couple of disturbing incidents I saw in the store.One was two guys coming to blows over the last jar of peanut butter.The one guy had seven jars in his cart & was going for the last one.This escalated & went out to the parking lot where the police busted it up. The other was two women shrieking at each over the last two pack of paper towels.
That's the kind of crap I expect to see in 3rd world countries not in a fairly affluent suburb.
People are scared and nasty.
Bayard
(22,005 posts)If we're supposed to stay in our homes, or shelter in place, you have to stock up on things. You can't be running to the store every 3-4 days, or even once a week.
And like some have said, you don't know how many of the perceived, "hoarders" are shopping for other people.
xmas74
(29,670 posts)And stocked up. I know I'm getting ready to work doubles, possibly even 24 hrs straight, and I wanted a good supply of easy things my kid can grab and cook without worrying about expiration. She's a meat eater so there were several cans of tuna, chicken and Spam. Pasta, sauce, tomatoes,veggies and fruit. Soup, dried beans, brown and white rice, juice and Nutrigrain bars,etc.
None of it was excessive, though I felt bad doing it. It looked like when I used to do a big stock job every other month when we lived 25 miles from the nearest store.
radius777
(3,635 posts)of the supply line (food, goods, etc) to ensure that everyone can have consistent access to what they need ... ie strict laws and enforcement to protect against price gouging, hoarding, etc.
People hoard due to fear which leads to shortages which creates more fear and more hoarding. IOW it is a vicious cycle that can only be stopped by gov't intervention.