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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:47 PM Mar 2020

Is "family" singular or plural?

Is it more correct to say "My family is worried about the future" ... or is it better to say "My family are worried about the future"?


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My family is worried about the future.
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My family are worried about the future.
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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. C'mon-- "family" is a singular noun and is itself a group, like "duet"...
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 05:55 PM
Mar 2020

or "team".

"Family is..."

"Families are..." for the plural form

"Family" is also used as an adjective, but then is subject to the modified noun's characteristics.

And, just for the hell of it, there's always "The members of the family are..."

wcast

(595 posts)
6. Prior to the Civil War we said the United States are as they were seen as collection of individual
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 06:00 PM
Mar 2020

States. We now say The United States is as we see it now as a collective group.

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
7. Nice Catch!
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 06:19 PM
Mar 2020

And correct. Heard in a history documentary that change in perspective about the collective, essentially added a capital to "the". Now it's THE United States, makes the United the operative word.
Thanks for the reminder. I had forgotten about that guy saying that until your post

wcast

(595 posts)
9. Thanks for the reply.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 06:22 PM
Mar 2020

And the info about capitalizing The in The United States 👍. I’ve edited my response. I can’t remember when I read about this but it has always stuck in my head.

Cheers

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
8. The American-British difference seems pretty likely.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 06:21 PM
Mar 2020

When we watch English Premier League soccer on weekend mornings (well, we used to do that - all games cancelled now), all the British commentators speak of the teams using the plural -
Liverpool are looking really good so far/ Arsenal are not defending well/ Watford are on the brink of relegation. Etc, etc.

Most of the American commentators have begun doing the same thing.

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
10. General rule in U.S. English: If a group is acting as one, use singular. If individuals in
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 06:23 PM
Mar 2020

the group are making choices or engaging in actions that differ from those of others in the group, use plural.

As I understand it, though, British English usually employs plural verbs for group nouns.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
12. Thank you all for your feedback and comments.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 07:08 PM
Mar 2020

Yes... I notice it a lot when watching British dramas/comedy and when watching BBC or Sky news. For example:

"The angry crowd are chanting loudly" vs "The angry crowd is chanting loudly".

Or...

"Apple are closing its stores" vs "Apple is closing its stores".

muriel_volestrangler

(101,311 posts)
14. British English uses 'is' more than 'are', but not quite as much as American English
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 07:25 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Wed Mar 18, 2020, 08:53 PM - Edit history (2)

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=family+is%2Cfamily+are&year_start=1800&year_end=2008&corpus=17&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cfamily%20is%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Cfamily%20are%3B%2Cc0#t1%3B%2Cfamily%20is%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Cfamily%20are%3B%2Cc0

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=family+is%2Cfamily+are&year_start=1800&year_end=2008&corpus=18&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cfamily%20is%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2Cfamily%20are%3B%2Cc0

On edit: By prefacing with a "My" or "Your" (including a capital letter) we can get a better idea (to exclude things like "each unhappy family is unhappy in its own way" ). "My/Your family is" is far more common, these days, in American English, but it used to be far closer, until about 1970:

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=My+family+is%2CMy+family+are&year_start=1800&year_end=2008&corpus=17&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CMy%20family%20is%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CMy%20family%20are%3B%2Cc0#t1%3B%2CMy%20family%20is%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CMy%20family%20are%3B%2Cc0

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Your+family+is%2CYour+family+are&year_start=1800&year_end=2008&corpus=17&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CYour%20family%20is%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CYour%20family%20are%3B%2Cc0

An increase in 'is' can also be seen in British English, but nothing like as much:

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=My+family+is%2CMy+family+are&year_start=1800&year_end=2008&corpus=18&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CMy%20family%20is%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CMy%20family%20are%3B%2Cc0

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Your+family+is%2CYour+family+are&year_start=1800&year_end=2008&corpus=18&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CYour%20family%20is%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CYour%20family%20are%3B%2Cc0
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