USA! USA! USA! U.S. leapfrogs Germany & Spain to have second highest daily increase in C-19

[ffr]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Italy ---- +5,986
USA ---- +4,980
Germany ---- +4,528
Spain ---- +3,433

[Jirel]

1. Not impressed or scared by this.

Huh. We FINALLY tested a bunch of people.

But overall, what’s the percentage of population? It’s not super huge.

Let’s be careful, but keep it in perspective.

[Igel]

17. We can't keep it in perspective.

Politics prevents it.

[Crunchy Frog]

22. I'm scared shitless because we're still only testing a small fraction

of the people who need it. Even including critically ill hospital patients in some cases.

If we were testing at the same rate as those other countries, I shudder at what our numbers would look like.

[sheshe2]

2. Aaand we are not even testing.

Pretty sure we are #1.

[Loki Liesmith]

5. We are testing.

[sheshe2]

6. Per CNN just this moment.

"Not nearly enough tests to go around."

We are not testing.

[DrToast]

7. Uh, you can't have new cases without testing.

Our testing has significantly increased in the last week. It’s not where it needs to be, but it’s not accurate to say we’re not testing.



https://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2020/03/march-20-update-us-covid-19-tests-per.html?m=1

[sheshe2]

10. Of course.

However we do not have nearly enough test kits available. We need more testing and we need it now.

[Igel]

18. We also need to reduce our population's obesity

and increase cardiovascular health.

We need more testing. But one of the two reasons for the big leap in cases is increased testing, not lack of testing.

The other is the only reason that some want to acknowledge, an actual increase in cases.

It's impossible to tease those two numbers apart and say the percentage due to increased tests and increased incidence.

China had a similar kind of jump when they had a test shortage and altered the reporting guidelines to include clinical (symptom-based diagnosis).

[sheshe2]

25. Dear Goddess.

Igel
18. We also need to reduce our population's obesity

and increase cardiovascular health.

Have we had 11.4 deaths for obesity since January 22nd 2020? NO!

We are in one huge crisis right now. This disease is highly contagious. A million may well die in the US alone. The man at the helm is a petulant child and has not a clue what is to come.

We need more testing. But one of the two reasons for the big leap in cases is increased testing, not lack of testing.

The other is the only reason that some want to acknowledge, an actual increase in cases.

Well, yes. The reason we see the jump is more testing. We have people walking around, no symptoms, going on spring break...PARTYING despite the warnings. Whooping it up at bars and having a grand time. Every breath they exhale is spreading it, to their mothers, fathers and grandparents. They, the selfish ones are spreading it to us all.

[ffr]

26. Wow, a lot of splitting hairs. I get a lot of that kind of black and white rebuttals as well.

And they almost always don't attack my argument so much as they attack a red herring I never mentioned.

Your message is clear and unambiguous. Everyone knows what you mean. We need more testing and we need it now, like you said. The levels of testing thus far have been too little too late and strikingly for those well connected over just anyone in the general public.

You rock! Keep up the good fight!

[sheshe2]

27. Thank you, ffr.

Sometimes I feel like I fell down the rabbit hole here.

Luv ya.

[ffr]

30. Anytime! For added comfort to your argument, see LBN I just posted RE: Nevada

[Loki Liesmith]

8. Not nearly enough means we are testing

Otherwise they’d say “none”.

[erronis]

32. So 1 test means "they are testing"?

To any significant level, we aren't testing. And we are only testing those who present. We have no idea how prevalent this disease is in the general population.

[herding cats]

35. I know many people, personally here in Texas being denied.

They've tested negative for influenza and strep and their doctors have tried to get them tested for COVID-19, but they'd not traveled out of country or state and were denied. If they're get worse they're being told to call ahead and go to an ER.

Watch, Texas is about to explode like popcorn. 😢

[Crunchy Frog]

23. We're waaaaay undertesting.

We're not testing anywhere near enough.

[Loki Liesmith]

24. It is ramping up significantly

[erronis]

33. Hi, Loki. You seem to have an inside track. Could you supply your sources, please?

To any significant level, we aren't testing. And we are only testing those who present. We have no idea how prevalent this disease is in the general population.

[Loki Liesmith]

38. That is incorrect

Link to tweet

?s=21

[herding cats]

36. Unless you've traveled to a hotspot country/state or are in a know community spread region...

Or were exposed to a know case, you don't qualify for testing.

That's how it is right now. Which keeps testing extremely depressed.

[Crunchy Frog]

39. And it fails to pick up new hotspots, or areas of community spread.

[herding cats]

40. Exactly.

Which leads to more spread in these pockets.

[Ms. Toad]

31. 59 out of every million is not really testing. n/t

[sheshe2]

37. Thank you, Ms. Toad. nt

[magicarpet]

3. But trDump said,...

Was 15,... but soon to be ZERO.

This is what happens if you have no testing. You have no clue how many got infected. Hold on tight, we ain't seen nothing yet.

[Loki Liesmith]

4. It probably is something to cheer about

Means we are testing more.

[DrToast]

9. That's partially it

But we’re also likely still seeing increases in transmission. It’s not ONLY that we’re treating more.

[Wounded Bear]

12. It's both...

yes, we're getting more testing done, but the slowness of bringing that up to speed means that the disease is spreading faster as we procrastinate.

[sheshe2]

13. Thank you.

[Loki Liesmith]

14. True. But important to look at number of new tests relative to new cases.

At least in Washington the increase is significantly related to increased testing penetration.

Link to tweet

?s=21

[Wounded Bear]

11. Mainly because we're the slowest to bring testing to bear...

[Igel]

19. Oh, that's hardly true.

It's just that people look up the hierarchy when making comparisons, and don't really look down that often.

It's a conceit of those low on the totem pole that those higher up are always looking down at them. "They really don't think about you because you're just not that important to them" is hardly comforting. Then again, very seldom is the truth comforting.

Among reasonably advanced countries, we're near the bottom. (I don't know whether to include Russia in that group, because Russia ranks below us.)

[D_Master81]

15. 5400+ today

Almost 11,000 in the past 2 days! Based on how it was doubling every 3-4 days it was supposed to be 16,000 by Sunday. By Sunday it’ll be 30,000. The thing is it’s only effecting a few places badly right now. Just like that Italian said 1st it has a few hot zones and then it’s everywhere. We have 2 weeks to get this under control before this begins to become a nightmare.

[Igel]

21. You increase the population you sample over, you increase the number of people you sample.

Doesn't necessarily say much about the actual incidence.

It's the old reporting problem. Hate crimes, for instance, increased rather sharply. Hate crimes reported per capita increased rather not much. Both were true, and reconciling the two claims requires realizing that the number of agencies reporting had sharply increased. More incidents but about the same incidence.

[Brother Mythos]

16. Winning "The Trump Virus Case Count Contest" is not something I'm cheering.

But, because of the Trump Regime's calculated unpreparedness, and the size of our population, I won't be surprised if, in the end, we are declared the winner.

"So much winning."

[Crunchy Frog]

20. And the other countries are actually testing.

[AlexSFCA]

28. numbers only make sense when they are expressed per capita

so please adjust those appropriately. We are better than this. Media is only interested in sensationalism. They finally have something to make money of, other than trump.

[Spider Jerusalem]

29. The US has 8x the population of Spain

And 4x the population of Germany. This was always inevitable just based on that. It'll be more than Italy, soon. Have people never heard of math?

[erronis]

34. If we want a % of infected people we need to test a population sample.

Getting the number of NBA players or Repuglicon senators with/without COVID-19 is not meaningful.

Reporting the number of people who present with symptoms and test positive/negative is not an overall population sample.

Randomly testing 10,000 people from various walks of life, situations might give a decent estimate.

That would mean having 10,000 test kits available that aren't spoken for by the rich folks. It would also mean dump's "close to zero" number would be in jeopardy. Won't happen with these people in power.

[Wednesdays]

41. USA is now the 5th highest in number of cases in the world

Just now passing Iran for the #5 spot.