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Peter Alexander replies to Trump's attack against him. A mic drop moment. (Original Post) kpete Mar 2020 OP
More professional in his answer than I would have been. nt Ferrets are Cool Mar 2020 #1
My response would have been along the lines of "Go fuck yourself, asshole." NYC Liberal Mar 2020 #23
I think trump did fuck himself up with that response. Alwaysna Mar 2020 #49
Or "Clueless Response By A Clueless President" ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #66
Might not get aired...... MyOwnPeace Mar 2020 #67
The look on Alexander's face when Trump attacked him was priceless leftieNanner Mar 2020 #2
Trump was served up a batting practice fastball and he charged the mound... Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #3
... Blue_true Mar 2020 #50
Exactly. Trump was given an opportunity to reassure the American people Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2020 #70
Very nicely said (and it WAS a major softball question). n/t Laelth Mar 2020 #4
It was a church rec league slow pitch question!! He failed again miserably! n/t archiemo Mar 2020 #5
It was a tee ball put on the spike at his arm level Aquaria Mar 2020 #52
NBC Nightly News just showed the clip!!! djacq Mar 2020 #6
why would this person ask such a question? trump obviously isn't capable in this crisis. Pillow talk Mar 2020 #7
When I told my husband about it marlakay Mar 2020 #11
They are out there. Caliman73 Mar 2020 #21
i agree with your husband. this person is a seasoned reporter. he should be asking hard questions Pillow talk Mar 2020 #24
I think they are afraid if they ask hard question marlakay Mar 2020 #27
you are so right. Cowards all. Pillow talk Mar 2020 #28
"Quit his job" ??? Progressive Jones Mar 2020 #48
Apparently... Dorian Gray Mar 2020 #64
Actually there a number of replies like "I am not going to dignify that question with an answer.". cstanleytech Mar 2020 #51
It's true that Trump is not capable Dorian Gray Mar 2020 #63
He gave Trump enough rope and he hung himself with it. SMC22307 Mar 2020 #45
He asked the question because millions of Americans Haggis for Breakfast Mar 2020 #46
Anyone who does not kiss his ring followed by a kiss to his a$$ Grammy23 Mar 2020 #8
What did Trump say to Alexander? Martin Eden Mar 2020 #9
Trump said that he was a terrible reporter and that that was a nasty question. Poiuyt Mar 2020 #12
You might have to scroll down to see the vid: CrispyQ Mar 2020 #13
Thanks, I found it. Martin Eden Mar 2020 #15
Absolutely! smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #62
here...video Roland99 Mar 2020 #14
Maybe next time, Peter Alexander won't ask a softball question. nt SunSeeker Mar 2020 #10
He will probably be the last reporter to be called on. not_the_one Mar 2020 #17
Peter is a better man than the asshole-in-chief spanone Mar 2020 #16
It was a softball question mcar Mar 2020 #18
I guess in that sense it was a "gotcha question." SunSeeker Mar 2020 #20
IMPOTUS will sure think so mcar Mar 2020 #22
I was a little gagged by the praise Gov. Newsom of CA gave to Trump OMGWTF Mar 2020 #19
Yup, I sadly agree with you. dhol82 Mar 2020 #35
Could you summarize for us deafies, please? Thanks! nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #25
reporter asked what the orange anus would say to Americans who are scared right now Kali Mar 2020 #31
I saw the original attack video with closed captioning, but the one in the OP has no CC. nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #33
he's explaining that he was trying to provide the president the oportunity to talk to the people Kali Mar 2020 #36
Thanks! nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #43
+1 keithbvadu2 Mar 2020 #26
Trump objected to the idea that anyone under his reign might be scared. He keeps telling them brewens Mar 2020 #29
Exactly! That's it 100%. nt oasis Mar 2020 #69
trump was not responding to the "what would you tell people" question. Hoyt Mar 2020 #30
Well yeah, but - maybe give it a double blind test? dhol82 Mar 2020 #37
Here's a little emergency science for you, from the French state-owned media France24 Hoyt Mar 2020 #40
I suspect they don't have enough of it, don't want to admit it. Doling it out to well-connected. lostnfound Mar 2020 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author lostnfound Mar 2020 #61
"in Africa, Trump's idiocy resulting in toxicities" Lock him up. Mar 2020 #53
I'm pissed off at him for offering FALSE hope Aquaria Mar 2020 #56
Lancet...Tons of studies on Antiviral effects of chloraquine lostnfound Mar 2020 #60
Sorry, plenty of doctors disagree with you. I'd request it as a last ditch effort for the reasons Hoyt Mar 2020 #72
Preseident Dumb Motherfucker is criminally insane...nt GReedDiamond Mar 2020 #32
The true question is, warmfeet Mar 2020 #34
The Dow Jones DallasNE Mar 2020 #38
No worries Major Nikon Mar 2020 #39
DUMP was born with a gold chamber pot stuck NoMoreRepugs Mar 2020 #41
That was actually a pretty diplomatic response. I would have told Trump to fuck off. Luciferous Mar 2020 #42
Very professional Mister Alexander apkhgp Mar 2020 #44
Of course Trump has no empathy. rickford66 Mar 2020 #47
he pitched Trump a softball but Trump decided to hit the pitcher. Kablooie Mar 2020 #54
NOW I fully understand why Chump is the way he is and why he's afraid of a pitch: Totally Tunsie Mar 2020 #55
Trump's total lack of empathy, of humanity, has been exposed. SergeStorms Mar 2020 #57
Dolt45... MarianJack Mar 2020 #58
I'm scared. I think we're all scared. C_U_L8R Mar 2020 #65
Peter handled himself with complete class both during his encounter with Trump... ClusterFreak Mar 2020 #68
That was the response of a true sociopath. JmAln Mar 2020 #71
I watched that presser live.... GetRidOfThem Mar 2020 #73

leftieNanner

(15,080 posts)
2. The look on Alexander's face when Trump attacked him was priceless
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 06:40 PM
Mar 2020

He was gob smacked!

And I agree that it was a softball question - an easy opportunity for The Orange One to say something positive and encouraging.

There are no words to describe that man any more.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
70. Exactly. Trump was given an opportunity to reassure the American people
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:01 AM
Mar 2020

And be, like, presidential. Instead, he attacked Alexander. He is incapable of showing sympathy or empathy, and doesn't understand why other people value those properties. He is an asshole.

 

Pillow talk

(265 posts)
7. why would this person ask such a question? trump obviously isn't capable in this crisis.
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 07:22 PM
Mar 2020

it seems he was giving him a chance to be *presidential* . they are failing us on so many fronts

marlakay

(11,446 posts)
11. When I told my husband about it
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 07:36 PM
Mar 2020

He said the reporter baited him because he knew he wasn’t capable of a decent answer.

But if that was true, wtf! Not capable to have any empathy...

Caliman73

(11,728 posts)
21. They are out there.
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 07:46 PM
Mar 2020

Trump likely has a cluster of personality disorders. As far as I could tell he meets criteria for Narcissistic PD and Antisocial PD. Both disorders entail a lack of empathy for others.

Trump was the son of wealthy people, but from accounts, he had a pretty messed up childhood which can also lead to a lack of empathy for others.

 

Pillow talk

(265 posts)
24. i agree with your husband. this person is a seasoned reporter. he should be asking hard questions
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 07:48 PM
Mar 2020

that we desperately need answers to. trump is not capable of empathy and the reporter should know that or quit his job.

marlakay

(11,446 posts)
27. I think they are afraid if they ask hard question
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 07:53 PM
Mar 2020

They won’t get to come back. I feel like no other person on earth could get away with what he has here, it’s insane.

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
51. Actually there a number of replies like "I am not going to dignify that question with an answer.".
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 02:22 AM
Mar 2020

It's one that's been used a number of times but like usual Trump chose instead to attack the person asking the question which shows why he was and always will remain a bad choice for President as a President has to show at least some restraint even if the face of tough questions by the Press.
If he cannot do that then he needs to resign.

Dorian Gray

(13,488 posts)
63. It's true that Trump is not capable
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 06:35 AM
Mar 2020

of compassion or empathy or consolation.

But to assume the reported is baiting him because he asks a question that any reporter would ask any president in the time of crisis is kind of sad.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
45. He gave Trump enough rope and he hung himself with it.
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 09:37 PM
Mar 2020

How could you possibly be complaining about that? Trump's reply will turn off A LOT of people. Not the cultists, but the soft middle. Same with the way he treated Yamiche Alcindor, last week I think it was.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
46. He asked the question because millions of Americans
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 11:04 PM
Mar 2020

were DESPERATE to hear something, anything of re-assurance, comfort, hope, LEADERSHIP, FFS.

THAT 'S WHY HE ASKED.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
8. Anyone who does not kiss his ring followed by a kiss to his a$$
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 07:24 PM
Mar 2020

will find him attacking with a vengeance. He can not tolerate anyone having the temerity to question the great and powerful Oz and will quickly suffer his wrath. The fool is so far off the rails, he did not even recognize his chance to turn to the camera and offer a calm, rational answer even if it was a platitude. It was a missed opportunity to BE Presidential. But it is clear he does not have it in him. His go to strategy when being questioned is to attack. What a thin skinned baby. I hope he is crushed by the electorate in November but won’t hold my breath. But that IS my fervent hope. He can’t just be defeated. He must be destroyed.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
15. Thanks, I found it.
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 07:40 PM
Mar 2020

If there is one thing this POtuS has proven over and over again, it's that he is a POS.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
62. Absolutely!
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 05:47 AM
Mar 2020

He is such a weak, pathetic excuse of a human being. He can't ever see any situation outside of how it affects HIM. It is always about HIM. A true leader thinks about his people and what he can do to comfort them and take care of them. But not Trump. It's all about his ego. He just makes me sick.

mcar

(42,298 posts)
18. It was a softball question
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 07:44 PM
Mar 2020

Alexander is right. He gave him a wide opening to show compassion and empathy. He has neither, so could only attack.

OMGWTF

(3,949 posts)
19. I was a little gagged by the praise Gov. Newsom of CA gave to Trump
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 07:44 PM
Mar 2020

in last night's C-19 news conference. But, I understand you have to lavish some praise even if Trump openly hates California because most of California fking hates him but we are in crisis mode here.

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
35. Yup, I sadly agree with you.
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 08:16 PM
Mar 2020

Newsome knows that if he treats trump with the lack of respect he deserves then California gets fucked over twice.
Politicians need to occasionally tread lightly.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
31. reporter asked what the orange anus would say to Americans who are scared right now
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 08:02 PM
Mar 2020

the OA didn't take it well and went on the attack, said it was a nasty question, made a "joke" projecting nickname for his company - comcast is CONcast. typical ugly and juvenile shit that he says about the press and anybody that he thinks is dissing him. the thing was the question was a softball aimed to let him show leadership (vomit/bark-laugh) and compassion. he isn't capable of that so did his usual rude crap.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
36. he's explaining that he was trying to provide the president the oportunity to talk to the people
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 08:19 PM
Mar 2020

to explain being vigilant, to reassure that we will get through it, to provide a positive or uplifting message, you saw what he did instead, and it goes to one of the fundamental reasons Americans are looking for a sense of confidence from their leaders in this moment, many glued to their teevees, behind closed doors in their homes, surrounded only by loved ones right now. he says he thinks it does sort of reveal frustration perhaps anxiety about his own political prospects. and about a situation that is hard to keep in control as we witnessed as it continues to spiral. bottom line this is a president who's experiences in life are very different than most Americans ... not a person who worries about finances or a person in the course of his live worried about his future, not a person who's worried about where he'll find a paycheck for his bills or rent, as evidenced by the president instead of telling the Americans how they should feel, took it out on me.

brewens

(13,566 posts)
29. Trump objected to the idea that anyone under his reign might be scared. He keeps telling them
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 07:59 PM
Mar 2020

what a great job he's doing, that he's winning and all that. Everyone else is supposed to make believe that the way it is.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
30. trump was not responding to the "what would you tell people" question.
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 07:59 PM
Mar 2020

That was a legitimate question.

trump was responding to all the BS about the malaria drug that came immediately before. Honestly, I’m not as ticked at trump as some for offering some hope in this regard. But, that’s about the only thing I’m not ticked at in all this.

I think some of the docs appearing with trump need to loosen up on their double-blind, long-term clinical studies in this situation. Apparently there is no real downside to using these meds in a closely monitored hospital setting vs. doing nothing. There are a number of docs in France, China, Korea — and even the WSJ reported on docs using it here — that believe it helps.

And it’s a cheap med, readily available. If I believed in conspiracy theories, I’d say some of these docs must be stockholders in the big bucks pharmaceutical companies looking to make a killing.

In fact, I bet if trump said he had no interest in pursuing that med, many here — including me — would accuse him of shunning the cheap drug so his pharmaceutical buddies could make a mint with some new concoction that we know nothing about.

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
37. Well yeah, but - maybe give it a double blind test?
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 08:19 PM
Mar 2020

You know, science.
One of those awful things the republicans can’t deal with.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
40. Here's a little emergency science for you, from the French state-owned media France24
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 08:46 PM
Mar 2020

"Didier Raoult, director of a university hospital institute in Marseille, explained that he had conducted a clinical trial in which he treated 25 Covid-19 patients with hydroxychloroquine. After six days, he said, only 25 percent of patients who took this drug still had the virus in their body. By contrast, 90 percent of those who had not taken hydroxychloroquine continued to carry the Covid-19."

https://www.france24.com/en/20200320-will-an-old-malaria-drug-help-fight-the-coronavirus


Now we can spend months or longer to make the FDA and statisticians happy, when we know we have a pandemic, people are dying and saving a day or two in a hospital bed or on a ventilator would be huge, and the drug for short-term, monitored use in a hospital has no serious side-effects since it's been used for decades, etc.


Doctors Turn to Malaria Drugs as Potential Coronavirus Treatment
Some studies of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine have shown early signs of improving symptoms and manufacturers are donating drugs or looking increase supplies
https://www.wsj.com/articles/doctors-turn-to-malaria-drugs-as-potential-coronavirus-treatment-11584729626


China, South Korea and Belgium have added it to the treatment protocol for CV19

https://www.businessinsider.com/malaria-pill-chloroquine-tested-as-coronavirus-treatment-2020-3


But you keep worrying about those double-blind studies that the FDA has used to delay drugs and treatment, and would normally be criticized here for doing so, while patients lie in bed with no effective treatment but rest and hydration. Hell, I'd try weed and CBD oil, too, if we don't have anything else.

lostnfound

(16,170 posts)
59. I suspect they don't have enough of it, don't want to admit it. Doling it out to well-connected.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 05:05 AM
Mar 2020

It might get robbed from pharmacies and patients who take it for other conditions wouldn’t get it anymore, if they announced it.

They’ve been weirdly conflicted on this topic.
Vague comments about some drugs being in short supply here and there with no followup.

Response to Hoyt (Reply #40)

Lock him up.

(6,925 posts)
53. "in Africa, Trump's idiocy resulting in toxicities"
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 02:58 AM
Mar 2020

Authorities in Nigerian megacity Lagos said on Friday
that hospitals had seen cases of chloroquine poisoning after US President
Donald Trump touted the drug as a treatment against the coronavirus.


More on this thread: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213141511

 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
56. I'm pissed off at him for offering FALSE hope
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 03:25 AM
Mar 2020

That's worse than offering nothing, and far more dangerous. He has no business making that pronouncement, not only because he's not a doctor, but also because, as usual, he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Malaria is caused by a parasite, a living cellular organism, and not by a virus, which isn't even an organism, really, but a genetic particle. That's why parasites and viruses do NOT respond to therapies the same way, or for the same reason. So applying an anti-parasite medication to a virus is an insanely stupid recommendation without a shit-ton of tests demonstrating efficacy.

Now imagine I'm a fucking moron who believes whatever this worthless prick says, and let's further imagine that I'm a rheumatoid arthritis patient who has some leftover Aralen (Choloroquine Phospate) that had been prescribed to me but I didn't use all of it. Uh oh. I think I have COVID-19. Now, because this idiot said that Chloroquine would "cure" me, I take that drug, rather than going to a doctor who knows what he's doing. And in the meantime, I'd be spreading the disease to everyone I might come into contact with while thinking I was healing and thus safe to be around others.

This is why it's stupid and dangerous to make these bullshit assertions for which there is ZERO evidence to back them up. People can die from this deluded bullshit.

And it's just as nonsensical to make up wild claims about the possibility that he'd decline to the med as a favor to "Big Pharma" for making big $$$$. You don't have to be a medical scientist to get enough information not to buy bogus crap like that. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand why the chances are quite high that a medication combatting PARASITES would be a shitty treatment for combating a VIRUS. It's the same reason why antibiotics don't work on viruses: Because they're two very different agents, and require two different methodologies to work. What's fatal to one often isn't fatal to the other. Sometimes, they could overlap, but it doesn't happen often.

And no, you don't loosen up your scientific standards for reasons of convenience or panic. You adhere to those standards, more than ever, because so much is riding on them. That reason you're so damned skeptical of Big Pharma? It's because in the past we've had medications get approved without thorough studies, and it got people maimed or killed. Remember AZT? Yeah, that was a drug trial that gone done in a panic, and look how that turned out:

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/the-rise-and-fall-of-azt-it-was-the-drug-that-had-to-work-it-brought-hope-to-people-with-hiv-and-2320491.html

Do proper testing. The better and more thorough the tests are, the less likely that mistakes will happen. We don't want the "cure" to be as bad or worse than the disease. Or an expensive waste of time, when other, more fruitful research could have gotten the necessary resources.

Too much is at stake to fuck around that way.

lostnfound

(16,170 posts)
60. Lancet...Tons of studies on Antiviral effects of chloraquine
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 05:16 AM
Mar 2020
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(03)00806-5/fulltext

Chloroquine exerts direct antiviral effects, inhibiting pH-dependent steps of the replication of several viruses including members of the flaviviruses, retroviruses

What is your purpose?
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
72. Sorry, plenty of doctors disagree with you. I'd request it as a last ditch effort for the reasons
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:34 AM
Mar 2020

outlined in Post #40, and the fact it is approved for other uses.

You can wait for the clinical trials if you like.

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
34. The true question is,
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 08:11 PM
Mar 2020

how do we get rid of him before we are all dead? Yeah, I get it. You don't think this is serious.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
38. The Dow Jones
Fri Mar 20, 2020, 08:24 PM
Mar 2020

Was down 190 points when Peter Alexander asked his question at 1:40. It finished the day down 913 points.

But tanking the market when he opens his mouth has become the hallmark of Trump briefings.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
55. NOW I fully understand why Chump is the way he is and why he's afraid of a pitch:
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 03:19 AM
Mar 2020
https://www.wbur.org/onlyagame/2018/05/04/ilan-fisher-baseball-donald-trump

The Bull And The Matador: Playing Baseball With Donald Trump

My leg pulls down — my arm shoots forward. The catapult is in motion. The ball releases.

I see the ball fly.

I see it. I scream, “Don!” I run for him. I run to beat the ball home; to beat the ball to its destination. It catches him just by the ear, right there where head, helmet, ear and cheekbone all meet. His helmet pops and flies. Don goes down.

I run, but the Maj beats me to him. He slides into him. Dirt flies everywhere. Maj rolls him from his stomach on to his back. I’m there, right behind him. I drop down and touch my teammate’s arm. I want to say I’m sorry, but suddenly his body shakes and flails. I’m caught off guard and I yank back my hand.

Then he is still. His face is white, flat; the color of dust. The color of his colorless hair. He is dead. And I killed him.

SergeStorms

(19,192 posts)
57. Trump's total lack of empathy, of humanity, has been exposed.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 03:46 AM
Mar 2020

He's a shell of a human being. There's nothing inside of him but greed and ego. He's so busy worrying about his image of himself, that nothing tangible ever developed. All there is is image, a mirage, a chimera. He's a hollow caricature of a human being.

C_U_L8R

(44,997 posts)
65. I'm scared. I think we're all scared.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 07:36 AM
Mar 2020

I would have liked to hear a real President give a helpful heartfelt answer.

In the end, all I discovered is that Donald Trump is more scared than all of us. And he fears us.

ClusterFreak

(3,112 posts)
68. Peter handled himself with complete class both during his encounter with Trump...
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:25 AM
Mar 2020

...and in this on camera report later.

JmAln

(69 posts)
71. That was the response of a true sociopath.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:11 AM
Mar 2020

Trump really showed his sociopathic side in that response. He has no empathy for the American people. Millions could die, and it would just be a statistic to him. His only concern would be how it might hurt his chance of reelection. Truly scary.

GetRidOfThem

(869 posts)
73. I watched that presser live....
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 02:33 PM
Mar 2020

..and dropped my jaw at Trump's response. This is very enlightening, seeing why Peter Alexander actually asked that question, that he intended it to be a softball...

Trump picks up subtleties like a granite rock. Another piece of evidence, amongst oh so many, of his utter incompetence...

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