General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDemocrats balk at $1,200 rebate checks in stimulus plan
Senate Republican and Democratic negotiators are battling over a central component of President Trump's stimulus plan: sending out hundreds of billions of dollars in rebate checks to middle-income Americans.
Senate GOP negotiators argue that $1,200 direct payments to individuals are the best way to get money flowing through the economy quickly, while Democrats say disbursing cash benefits so broadly doesn't do enough for low-income Americans and people who lose their jobs.
Senate Democratic Leader Charles Schumer (N.Y.) on Friday said Congress should pass a massive expansion of unemployment benefits instead of simply doling out checks to individuals and families, regardless of whether they miss work because of health quarantines.
"There are many, many who have lost their jobs and one check when they may be out of their jobs for three, four, five months isn't going to be enough. Unemployment insurance gives money the whole period of time the crisis exists at your present salary level and covers just about everyone," Schumer said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-balk-at-dollar1200-rebate-checks-in-stimulus-plan/ar-BB11tNFI?li=BBnb7Kz
I'm getting visions of Jack Nicholson as "The Joker" giving away free money in my mind's eye.
BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)he is Mitch. That says it all.
WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)lost everything in their 401Ks? They need nothing?
Demonaut
(8,914 posts)in the Sudan!
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)and it is working. Normally, it would be the other way around.
I will believe those checks are happening when I see it. It won't happen.
getagrip_already
(14,618 posts)You will have to pay it back out of your returns next year, even if that means you write the irs a check.
Corporations get grants, you get to borrow your own money.
Aquaria
(1,076 posts)Beefing up unemployment insurance will shore up workers, and doesn't wallop them with a nasty tax bill next year, when so many people are already getting hammered from the Tax Cuts for the Undeserving of 2017.
It's not the final action here. This will be an ongoing thing, which will get done a little at a time. Get the unemployed or soon to be shored up.
Then we can work on those who fall under the Social Security umbrella, and getting some money to welfare recipients, too.
Schumer is playing a smarter long game here of boxing in the Repukes/forcing their hand, each step of the way. I would have preferred starting with helping out the elderly and disabled, who need very real help now, but for whatever reason, he's starting with the newly unemployed. Maybe because he's cynical enough to realize that the conservafilth hate "slackers" who can't keep their jobs in even the direst economies, but they hate "moochers" like the disabled and elderly even more. He may suspect that they'll be more willing to help those who were most productive until recently.
And it's sad that repukes are indeed sick enough to prioritize citizens that way.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,151 posts)to be an economic stimulus or an unemployment benefit supplement? It sounds like they're approaching this from different angles.
jcgoldie
(11,612 posts)You can't go out to eat, you can't spend it on entertainment, you can't shop... even Amazon is shut down. How does giving people money stimulate the economy when there is nowhere for them to spend it?
4887123
(95 posts)I'm still wondering about folks who didn't earn enough to even file taxes. What happens to them? What about the self employed who are not eligible for unemployment? I'm sure there are other scenarios as well. I am currently not working because of this and cannot get any sort of benefit. And I am not the only one in my line of business.
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)maveric
(16,445 posts)Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)is capped at like $300 per week...in righty states anyway.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)crime boss, then burning the crime boss and the money. Republicans will give people one check that may pay one month's rent, but after that, those people get burned. Expanding unemployment benefits to 100% of salary allows people that have been laid off to keep paying all bills, people that still have jobs have no dire need for the money, and if they do, that need is better addressed by making immediate changes to the tax code so those people get more money back in each paycheck.
mvd
(65,159 posts)Lots of people are on Social Security or dont/cant work, and they badly could use the checks. Of course, it needs to be set up differently than the Repukes want. $600? Unemployment insurance and other things can be part of the bill, too. Frankly, I am disappointed in both sides here. Lets attack the problem on many fronts.
We need a groundbreaking plan. Have never seen anything like what is going on now.
Grown2Hate
(2,009 posts)"I mean, it's ONE pandemic, Michael. What could it cost... a thousand dollars?"
Have to laugh to keep from crying.
NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)Speaker Pelosi needs to tell Toad "This bill will entirely be written by me. Take it or shove it up your ass, and see you in November, where you will get blamed for not passing any economic rescue measures whereas we tried our best."