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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCopper Destroys Viruses and Bacteria.
>"It could destroy norovirus, MRSA, virulent strains of E. coli, and coronavirusesincluding the novel strain currently causing the COVID-19 pandemic."<
>"In the 1854 to 1855 cholera epidemic, Burq could not find any deaths of jewellers, goldsmiths, or boilermakersall those who worked with copper. In people in the army, he found that musicians who played brass instruments (brass is partly copper) were also protected.
In the 1865 Paris epidemic, 6,176 people died of cholera, out of a population of 1,677,000 peoplethats 3.7 people out of every 1,000. But of the 30,000 who worked in different copper industries, only 45 diedan average of around 0.5 per 1,000."<
>"Today, we have insight into why a person handling copper day in and day out would have protection from a bacterial threat: Copper is antimicrobial. It kills bacteria and viruses, sometimes within minutes. In the 19th century, exposure to copper would have been an early version of constantly sanitizing one's hands.
Since then, studies have shown that copper is able to destroy the microbes that most threaten our lives. It has been shown to kill a long list of microbes, including norovirus, MRSA, a staph bacteria that has become resistant to antibiotics, virulent strains of E. coli that cause food-borne illness, and coronavirusespossibly including the novel strain currently causing the COVID-19 pandemic."<
>"A study from 1983 found that hospital door knobs made of brass, which is part copper, barely had any E. coli growth on them, compared to stainless steel knobs which were heavily colonized. This is significant because of how rampant healthcare-acquired infections are: In the U.S. alone, there are about 1.7 million infections and 99,000 deaths linked to HAIs per year, which cost between $35.7 and $45 billion annually, from the extra treatments people need when they get infected."<
more:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xgqkyw/copper-destroys-viruses-and-bacteria-why-isnt-it-everywhere?utm_source=pocket-newtab
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,183 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)htuttle
(23,738 posts)It was built in 1909, so the doorknobs probably helped in 1918 as well.
Good to know.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)The copper will wear off on to your hands.
I am using credit card and dollar coins, also quarters to pay for things right now. Im avoiding paper currency.
The handling of our cupronickel and brass coins will definitely not hurt.
magicarpet
(14,144 posts)Silver is antimicrobial,
A commonly used active antimicrobial ingredient is silver, due to its ability to kill off bacteria on surfaces by up to 99.9%. But it appears that silver may have more to offer in its antimicrobial role.
Brass/Bronze/(Yes Copper) are antimicrobial,
The surfaces of copper and its alloys, such as brass and bronze, are antimicrobial. They have an inherent ability to kill a wide range of harmful microbes relatively rapidly often within two hours or less and with a high degree of efficiency.
Brass door handles have proven extremely useful in hospitals to significantly cut down on microbials as staph, Sars, Mers and other pathogens.
See page 25 @ link below.
https://books.google.com/books?id=V9bQDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25&dq=hospitals+with+brass+door+knobs+have+fewer+microbial&source=bl&ots=Nr4_ZslnmY&sig=ACfU3U1B-xDnJFOk1iBfloV7nG2inTBuyw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiun5Sm1KroAhUMP6wKHffLBhwQ6AEwDHoECAIQAQ#v=onepage&q=hospitals%20with%20brass%20door%20knobs%20have%20fewer%20microbial&f=true
Beakybird
(3,332 posts)I'll try using coins. I've been using cash for so many years. I'm afraid of change!
I see what you did there.
Beartracks
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lunasun
(21,646 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)And it is Woo.
Is copper antimicrobial. Yes. Many metals in that atomic family are. They kill most bacteria in a matter of hours. But in a hospital setting the goal is to kill all bacteria right fucking now. And does anyone have any scientific studies showing these metals effect on viruses? Which are as similar to a bacteria as an elephant is to a jellyfish.
Metals are not disinfectants. Put copper door knobs, bed railings, stair rails in all you want. Hell, use copper nails. But because the metals are not disinfectants the will have to be cleaned in the exact same way Stainless Steel is. So spend 10 times as much for no change in protocol. And it wears out quickly
And all the posts about wearing copper bracelets, carrying pennies or taking copper internally to prevent illness. All bullshit woo.
You know why no actual doctor will tell you to do this? Because it does not work. Its middle age medicine.
DU is supposed to be a fact based site. Not a home for whacked out internet medical advice.
And here is the danger. People believing this shit will think they have some kind of magical protection and will slack off on doing the things that can really protect you from an illness.
Use this stuff if you want. Unless you take it internally it wont hurt you. But dont count on it to protect you.
Beakybird
(3,332 posts)And it's better to have surfaces that are less hospitable to germs. There is also research in and some products that have nanoparticles that repel germs and bacteria.
Kali
(55,007 posts)for "pennies" instead of wasting big bucks on half-assed woo bullshit
Beakybird
(3,332 posts)GaYellowDawg
(4,446 posts)Woo patrol can be a busy job around here sometimes. You're absolutely right on all points. The only thing I would add is that viruses are even less like bacteria than elephants are clams; viruses aren't technically even life.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)...if you had brass or bronze hardware as a general thing, they would tend to self-sanitize. Which is generally s good thing.
Obviously it won't work within seconds. But if a business had brass doorknobs, for example, they would be bacteria-free every morning.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Anything that gets coated with lots of oils from the human hands along with the dirt that go with it can harbor illness.
Since the whole thing started I am daily cleaning off the door knobs at my work site used by around 50 technicians. The amount of daily build up of grime is surprising.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)nonsense on this site over the years but yes this particular woo does have a recently published study from NIH that I have posted multiple times . This will be my last time here doing that
here since it continues to be posted and obviously no one is reading it
Please see POST #8
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)But they do not disinfectant and can still harbors disease. And are really expensive compared to stainless steel. Not to mention much weaker and prone to wearing out. So in a situation that requires really clean surfaces it will need to be cleaned like stainless.
My real ire I reserved for the bracelet, penny and internal copper crowd. Nothing wrong with doing it, except the ingestion idea. But claiming any of the above protects us is just not true.
One of the things that first attracted me to DU was it was a site for those on the left that insisted on being fact, or science based. There are plenty of sites where I can read all types of crazy medical advice. I dont like seeing it here.
Have a nice weekend. And stay safe.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)coronavirus was rapidly inactivated.
4 hours in NIH link I provided
Yes less than stainless steel but not a miracle shield from transmission
Also notice in this op link somewhere its added using copper along with standard hygiene protocolsl
I have added the link to OPs so people can see Yes it may be less time than plastic or stainless steel but not a bug zapper or shield
Bracelets / Penny/ high intake of copper for a long time ?I hope not thought of as protection
blogslut
(37,999 posts)Soap.
Don't drink it though.
Calculating
(2,955 posts)This copper rumor going around the internet lately is gonna get people killed.
Seattlelib
(1 post)I've heard Soapstone is also antimicrobial! They also used to use it as counter tops in chem labs, because its not affected by acid and can withstand up to 4,500 degrees. Does anybody else have anymore information on this?