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redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:01 AM Mar 2020

Husband went to the grocery store this morning at 5:45 am.

Last edited Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:59 AM - Edit history (1)

He said there was already a crowd. He noticed that meat prices were about 50 percent higher than normal, everything else that was available was about 30 percent higher than normal.

Good Lord people are losing their jobs, the country is coming apart and the stores that are open are jacking up prices. That $1000 of McConnel's isn't going far.

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Husband went to the grocery store this morning at 5:45 am. (Original Post) redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 OP
Here In Illinois... ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #1
Same in Michigan. gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #2
Probably the guy I bought them from.....80 masks for $1K n/t OhioChick Mar 2020 #12
Why Srkdqltr Mar 2020 #37
Because my sons are ER doctors and don't have masks or protective gear n/t OhioChick Mar 2020 #57
+1 ChiTownDenny Mar 2020 #66
Please make a post of your own on this topic. Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #84
I made a basic post the other day OhioChick Mar 2020 #117
+1000 Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #118
Thank you. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2020 #122
Why did you buy 80 masks? AllyCat Mar 2020 #44
She has a son working in a medical field. LisaL Mar 2020 #46
Cool. Thank you. AllyCat Mar 2020 #52
Thanks, Lisa OhioChick Mar 2020 #60
Because my sons are ER doctors and don't have masks or protective gear OhioChick Mar 2020 #58
:( True Blue American Mar 2020 #127
I literally saw someone be arrested in a parking lot for selling TP obamanut2012 Mar 2020 #105
A Huge truck was just stopped True Blue American Mar 2020 #128
After Governor Hot Wheels declared a state of emergency for Texas Aquaria Mar 2020 #4
HEB reduced their hours of operation trc Mar 2020 #43
Winn Dixie is doing same tavernier Mar 2020 #78
Yes, I know. Aquaria Mar 2020 #125
I'm in College Station Rowdyag Mar 2020 #77
Hey, neighbor! Trueblue Texan Mar 2020 #83
Howdy 🙋‍♀️ Rowdyag Mar 2020 #86
I have always loved HEB. They are very good employers and good for the efhmc Mar 2020 #103
Even red Arkansas is going after price gouging. sinkingfeeling Mar 2020 #5
put them in the stockades and flog them IronLionZion Mar 2020 #31
I took advantage of telework to pick up a roast avebury Mar 2020 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #17
What store? cwydro Mar 2020 #6
The one on the old bypass road... jberryhill Mar 2020 #8
Oh, THAT one! cwydro Mar 2020 #10
Yeah. My cousin's ex wife's sister's husband used to work there jberryhill Mar 2020 #11
Well now I know it's open early, I'm heading over there! cwydro Mar 2020 #15
Lol Bluethroughu Mar 2020 #22
At least I had a laugh this morning.:) True Blue American Mar 2020 #129
" stores that are open are jacking up prices." mitch96 Mar 2020 #7
I tried to buy one at my local pharmacy last week but they didn't have any, pazzyanne Mar 2020 #34
I thought I was being smart yesterday Bayard Mar 2020 #116
Reactionary panic spending has jacked up prices wackojacko Mar 2020 #132
We just can't buy them in France. The government nationalized them all Recursion Mar 2020 #134
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2020 #137
Probably supply and demand D_Master81 Mar 2020 #9
Well if its a state that has declared a state of emergency they might be in trouble as during such cstanleytech Mar 2020 #13
Price Freeze - NOW! moonseller66 Mar 2020 #14
If you freeze prices and demand stays high Loki Liesmith Mar 2020 #35
This, price controls feel good but do more harm than good Amishman Mar 2020 #82
More than that, it just creates a black market. coti Mar 2020 #120
Wellllllll wackojacko Mar 2020 #16
So what will you be saying to that hoarder, "howdy, neighbor"??? marble falls Mar 2020 #18
Lol, how will you know if someone has hoarded tp in your neighborhood? cwydro Mar 2020 #19
What scares me most is when a nieghborhood self appointed block captain might show ... marble falls Mar 2020 #23
No shit. cwydro Mar 2020 #24
Ominous sounding open ended threats are not what I expect on DU. marble falls Mar 2020 #27
Lol, certain not as related to toilet paper. cwydro Mar 2020 #28
I know, TP - bwaaaaaaa-ha-ha-ha! It may not be easy, but we will get thru this! marble falls Mar 2020 #33
One thing I've learned is that many on DU are obsessed with it. cwydro Mar 2020 #54
Sad and funny. I was at my studio shutting it down getting ready to cancel classes for ... marble falls Mar 2020 #74
Have you decided where you'll go? mnhtnbb Mar 2020 #80
We waited too long to go to Oregon. By the time we made up our mind after our ... marble falls Mar 2020 #87
Completely agree. cwydro Mar 2020 #89
You, also. This too shall pass! marble falls Mar 2020 #92
😂 wackojacko Mar 2020 #133
So what were you implying .... marble falls Mar 2020 #135
Idioms are wackojacko Mar 2020 #136
"...should I find any one that horded TP in my neighborhood, it won't be pretty!" pazzyanne Mar 2020 #42
Is your sink near your toilet? tavernier Mar 2020 #81
Exactly Moostache Mar 2020 #88
Those of us who lived on boats, in the Keys, or off the grid (or all of the above lol) find the tp cwydro Mar 2020 #94
And fellow live aboarder! tavernier Mar 2020 #95
Geiger Key Marina. cwydro Mar 2020 #97
We lived in the condo association as you turn into Geiger Key. tavernier Mar 2020 #98
I tended bar at Geiger for a year; hell, we may have met! cwydro Mar 2020 #100
For sure you probably met my husband. tavernier Mar 2020 #101
I was there in those days too. cwydro Mar 2020 #112
Yeah. I got PCP from one of my patients tavernier Mar 2020 #115
Yes, thanks for the tip! nt pazzyanne Mar 2020 #111
I was in the Commissary 5 minutes after opening haele Mar 2020 #63
There is a (I think) nation wide group called NextDoor. efhmc Mar 2020 #110
Welcome to DU! Brilliant first post IronLionZion Mar 2020 #70
Hoarding long term versus short term. That IS a good plan! Iggo Mar 2020 #71
It's a great investment. TP money is automatically taken out of my paycheck, along with my 401(k) coti Mar 2020 #121
I bought about 5 full grocery carts of food a month ago NickB79 Mar 2020 #20
Are you expecting the grocery stores to close? cwydro Mar 2020 #25
I'm planning on quarantining as much as possible NickB79 Mar 2020 #50
Thanks for the link. cwydro Mar 2020 #59
You do understand durablend Mar 2020 #61
Everyone on DU told you not to worry? ornotna Mar 2020 #62
Unless the power goes out when there's no one left to run the plants HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #104
My main store is selling out of the reasonably priced items while expensive specialty items remain wishstar Mar 2020 #21
I suspect it's to try to minimize hoarding radical noodle Mar 2020 #26
I saw the same thing. JmAln Mar 2020 #36
Different trucks come at different times and days. Flaleftist Mar 2020 #39
Produce doesn't keep radical noodle Mar 2020 #41
Same here eyeofnewt Mar 2020 #85
Some stores are minimizing hoarding by implementing quantity limits. Flaleftist Mar 2020 #38
Yes... radical noodle Mar 2020 #48
Yup, no legit store/chain would be doing this now obamanut2012 Mar 2020 #106
They may gain short-term, but their customers will rememer their scumbag price gouging. Flaleftist Mar 2020 #123
Sounds like socialism IronLionZion Mar 2020 #29
At least he found meat BumRushDaShow Mar 2020 #30
You're not alone radical noodle Mar 2020 #53
They closed all the state stores here in PA BumRushDaShow Mar 2020 #67
Many liquor stores here are radical noodle Mar 2020 #69
There are only a handful of states left that have this sort of state-run BumRushDaShow Mar 2020 #76
You can order online from State Wine and Spirits HockeyMom Mar 2020 #75
I haven't tried the online store although I had considered it in the past BumRushDaShow Mar 2020 #79
Giant RobinA Mar 2020 #124
Palm Beach County is allowing alcohol to be delivered obamanut2012 Mar 2020 #109
I hadn't heard that radical noodle Mar 2020 #114
Van Zandt County (TX) is allowing drive-through alcohol sales with a restaurant food purchase. Laelth Mar 2020 #131
Re: meat prices, MontanaFarmer Mar 2020 #32
I went yesterday evening about 6:30 PM Shrek Mar 2020 #40
If trump stiffs us with this like he does contractors duforsure Mar 2020 #45
A bit off topic but if you are in the mood to be creative you can save money by mucifer Mar 2020 #47
I am gluten intolerant...allergic sadly so I can't do that. Gluten puts me in the hospital. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #93
I am double high risk CountAllVotes Mar 2020 #49
two can play that game when people stop buying evertonfc Mar 2020 #51
Here are the store shelves today in a socialist country ravaged by Covid-19 IronLionZion Mar 2020 #55
Report it DownriverDem Mar 2020 #56
The Menards one appers to be false. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #68
Sic semper tyrannis! FailureToCommunicate Mar 2020 #64
I saw a large roll of Bounty paper towels on eBay at $3.99 left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #65
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #72
Im so glad I hunt and fish Squidly Mar 2020 #73
same here. drray23 Mar 2020 #91
I went just after the doors opened at 7am. toilet paper/ paper towels available but almost gone Demovictory9 Mar 2020 #90
We Have A President So Full Of Shit, The Whole Country Ran Out Of Toilet Paper nt smb Mar 2020 #108
Good one! Shermann Mar 2020 #130
Was this a national chain????? What area of the country? nt LAS14 Mar 2020 #96
Publix in central FL had regular ground beef the other day. $6.49/lb Roland99 Mar 2020 #113
Couldn't find meat, so I bit the bullet and ordered from Omaha Steaks. sarcasmo Mar 2020 #99
Then blame your Governor obamanut2012 Mar 2020 #102
No problem ordering my Chinese takeout.... pbmus Mar 2020 #107
In the Chicago area, I just went to a smaller grocery chain, and their meat was fully stocked. tritsofme Mar 2020 #119
The federal govt needs to demand that stores do not raise their food prices. SummerSnow Mar 2020 #126

ProfessorGAC

(64,854 posts)
1. Here In Illinois...
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:04 AM
Mar 2020

...the governor has already assigned staff to the AG office to monitor & prosecute profiteering & gouging.

gibraltar72

(7,499 posts)
2. Same in Michigan.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:07 AM
Mar 2020

A local guy has been charged with buying masks and trying to sell on E bay at exhorbitant price.

OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
117. I made a basic post the other day
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 06:30 PM
Mar 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213118078

I'm up all night on eBay (all night, every night) basically hitting refresh and when someone puts up a bulk amount of N-95's, I buy them. People are price gouging terribly.

Ebay has a take down policy now for sellers listing N-95's in bulk and price gouging, so they're taking listings down so I have to act fast.

I just paid another $1K for about 80 or so N-95's. I just can't keep up at this rate financially so I'm going to have to stop soon.

I'm just exhausted and terrified but that doesn't matter at this point.

The shortages are on everything now, not only N-95's, lock and key. (Patients and some staff were stealing them)

They're not wearing hazmat suits but flimsy gowns. No goggles, masks or much of anything. Think Grey's Anatomy vs. (the movie) Outbreak.

I applaud ALL of our healthcare workers in the world, hearing of all of the stories, risk of contagion, etc., I don't know how they're doing it.

The government needs to get vents as soon as possible, otherwise when this surge hits cities (and it will hard) there will not be enough vents for everyone sick and decisions will have to be made. I'm sure you know what those are.

If anyone wants to help and has a surplus of any of the above items (or whatever else you may think of), please drop them off at your local hospital.

If people want to help but don't have access to the above, send pizzas, donuts or whatever you can think of to your local hospitals. Staff don't have time to prepare food, so a quick slice of pizza or donut would be a nice gesture for them as they're working around the clock and hungry.

As for a view from inside the ICU, it's like that out of a horror story. Our medical professionals are going to have PTSD by the time this is over, in my opinion. It's not only the elderly with health issues but healthy people with many young. (40's and 50's)

I will say this, it's bad in the hospitals and if it isn't in your area now, it will be at some point. We haven't even surged here yet and we're out (or nearly) out of everything. A surge is being predicted here within the next week. Cases are rising overnight.

My son's girlfriend is an ICU nurse (different hospital than he) and has had no mask or anything covering her mouth/eyes, etc. for a few weeks, she knows she's going to get this and is scared from what she's seen. Some hospitals have not been allowing staff to bring in their own items but staff are ignoring this and improvising as best as they can. His girlfriend is now doing this, as well.

I've been told of what ICU's are like and what this virus does to the body.....it's just unimaginable, a true horror story that remains in my brain even though I've not seen it firsthand.

I'm in a red zone and hospitals are expecting a surge in less than a week. People are still outside in groups and we do need some type of lock down or curfew at the very least. Everyone seems to have that "that can't happen to me attitude."

From what my kids have told me, they said the biggest message they wish local/state and federal governments would say would be to "Stay home, unless absolutely necessary." Those who don't are just making their lives harder and putting them and their families at home at risk.

They also said pictures of the ICU should be shown on the media, not for sensationalism but to get people to STAY HOME.

Will update the situation as soon as I can gather my thoughts and think straight.

Feel free to re-post if you'd like and I'll update as soon as I can.

WE NEED MORE TESTS!

Thank you.

AllyCat

(16,152 posts)
52. Cool. Thank you.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:53 AM
Mar 2020

We are scrambling for gear at work and cannot use an N95 unless we have a confirmed positive patient. While their test is pending, we reuse our surgical masks all shift.

OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
58. Because my sons are ER doctors and don't have masks or protective gear
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:03 AM
Mar 2020

I'm sure as soon as the masks run out and my sons come home with this virus, I will be.

obamanut2012

(26,047 posts)
105. I literally saw someone be arrested in a parking lot for selling TP
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 02:54 PM
Mar 2020

$100 a case (Costco brand), cash only. I called up 911, and was told officers were on there way, and indeed they were. DeSantis declared an state emergency a couple weeks ago, so this dude is in for the fucking ban hammer to hit him.

*Shame on Costco, Target, Wal-Mart, and every single other store for allowing people to clear shelves of TP, meat, soap, produce, etc.

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
128. A Huge truck was just stopped
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:18 AM
Mar 2020

Last edited Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:51 AM - Edit history (1)

By Police, stolen, it was loaded with toilet paper.

 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
4. After Governor Hot Wheels declared a state of emergency for Texas
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:12 AM
Mar 2020

Local Judge Nelson Wolff issued a further extension of the order for Bexar County (San Antonio) that throws the book at price gougers.

https://www.ksat.com/news/local/2020/03/19/watch-live-bexar-county-judge-nelson-wolff-giving-coronavirus-update-at-4-pm/

HEB has been really good about not price gouging, or not that I've seen or heard about. And my husband is right there in the trenches with inventory and pricing. But it's one of those regional chains that is big on community involvement and being a good neighbor. They did just announce that, unlike other businesses that are cutting jobs, hours and pay during this, they're adding a $2/hr bonus to every worker's pay while this corona madness is going on.

trc

(823 posts)
43. HEB reduced their hours of operation
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:45 AM
Mar 2020

BUT kept their employees on for their normal hours to help restock shelves and sanitize and clean the store. Love the store for their store brands and their sense of community.

 

Aquaria

(1,076 posts)
125. Yes, I know.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:00 AM
Mar 2020

My husband works there. The hours I meant were the hours for the workers. Those are up. Way up.

Rowdyag

(105 posts)
77. I'm in College Station
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:55 AM
Mar 2020

Went to Kroger's this morning...they HAVE NOT raised prices. Kroger employees being cordial and helpful .....good people...follow their example.

efhmc

(14,723 posts)
103. I have always loved HEB. They are very good employers and good for the
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 02:52 PM
Mar 2020

community and these bad times have not changed them.

avebury

(10,951 posts)
3. I took advantage of telework to pick up a roast
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:11 AM
Mar 2020

on Monday to put in the crockpot. It created 7 meals. Who knows how long we will be able to get fresh meat/poultry.

Which store did your husband go to? Most strokes aren’t opening until 7 am. Though I went to Crest yesterday and they were open at 6 am. Belle Isle Walmart closes at 8 or 8:30 pm (can’t remember which).

Response to avebury (Reply #3)

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
129. At least I had a laugh this morning.:)
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 08:26 AM
Mar 2020

To kill time I went on Google, found a recipe for biscuits for one or two.

3/4 cup self rising flour

1/3 cup 2% milk

3 Tabs butter, cut in small chunks.

Crunch up butter

Add milk,stir, mix, put on wax paper,extra flour. Fold over 4 times. Make ball, bake, 350.

Double for 2. Enjoy!

mitch96

(13,871 posts)
7. " stores that are open are jacking up prices."
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:25 AM
Mar 2020

"Never let a good crisis go to waste.."...... fuckers..

Have you seen the price of digital thermometers??? Some as high as $300!! on ebay..
I use my thermopen kitchen thermometer. Good for +/- 1%. I'm packing for a move and can't find my normal one... works for me!!
m

pazzyanne

(6,543 posts)
34. I tried to buy one at my local pharmacy last week but they didn't have any,
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:38 AM
Mar 2020

... and you can't buy them on-line for a decent and without a 6 to 8 week wait. I think tRump has finally attained his goal of turning the USA into Russia. Sad!

Bayard

(22,011 posts)
116. I thought I was being smart yesterday
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 06:09 PM
Mar 2020

I went to Tractor Supply for a digital thermometer. Guess everybody else thought that would be smart too. I did get a box of 100 nitrile gloves for under $10.

I was talking to one of the people there that I always do, and said--I have a digital at home, but its been up horses' butts too many times for me. She said, ya know, you can still put it under your arm. Hadn't thought of that.

I also took a chance and stopped at the IGA. They had ONE small bottle of alcohol left on the shelf, and wanted more than $4 for it. No bread or bleach at all.

We are officially hibernating though.

 

wackojacko

(7 posts)
132. Reactionary panic spending has jacked up prices
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 02:27 AM
Mar 2020

People making a run on local market places for more than they need have majorly contributed to the debacle.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
134. We just can't buy them in France. The government nationalized them all
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 05:10 AM
Mar 2020

Same with masks and nebulizers.

Response to Recursion (Reply #134)

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
9. Probably supply and demand
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:27 AM
Mar 2020

They are probably upping the price to keep people from buying it all up before the next delivery truck comes in and you have nothing on your shelves. Talked to a guy I used to work with at our local store yesterday and he said every day is now like what a Saturday used to be before all this. They are getting sent half what they need cause the supply line can’t handle all the demand.

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
13. Well if its a state that has declared a state of emergency they might be in trouble as during such
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:40 AM
Mar 2020

a thing a number of states enact what is essentially a price freeze so while you might get away with a minor 1% to 5% increase a 30% or more might get you into trouble.
Again that is depending on the state.

moonseller66

(430 posts)
14. Price Freeze - NOW!
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:46 AM
Mar 2020

Nixon did it. So did Carter.

We need prices frozen right now so Big Business doesn't take advantage of the situation.

They instituted wage-price freezes. But since 99% of Amurica's good ol' businesses don't give a damn about raising our wages, just a price freeze will do.

Oh wait...who am I kidding. That might make too much sense for us and business would have apoplectic fits.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
35. If you freeze prices and demand stays high
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:38 AM
Mar 2020

Stores will just stop carrying the high demand items because they will wind up taking a loss on them.

Amishman

(5,554 posts)
82. This, price controls feel good but do more harm than good
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 11:02 AM
Mar 2020

This will be unpopular on here, but rent controls do the same thing. The supply side slowly withers relative to the gap between the suppressed price and what would be it's free float level

If you want more of something, subsidize the supplier. In time they will flood the market.

If you want less of something, tax the consumer. They will reduce consumption.

The above is just a generalization on the topic in the long run.

On this exact situation, some increases are to be expected. Resupply goods are being bought at spot rates rather than long term contracts. Stores are having to work extra to restock and sanitize, often with a reduced workforce due to parents being unavailable with schools closed.

coti

(4,612 posts)
120. More than that, it just creates a black market.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 07:17 PM
Mar 2020

People will buy up what they see at "frozen" prices, then sell it "under the table" at ridiculous prices.

 

wackojacko

(7 posts)
16. Wellllllll
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:50 AM
Mar 2020

When consumer spending makes up ~65 percent on our economy and reactionary Americans make a run on the supply chain, this is normal. Because our market is free and subject to supply and demand, prices raise. A free market only works if the populace is disciplined enough to not panic buy, this keeps nearly half of our economy stable.

I feel that the economic impact is 99.9% the blame of the American people, and should I find any one that horded TP in my neighborhood, it won't be pretty!

I've saved my money, buy a little extra all year long and am still holding steady, because I plan.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
19. Lol, how will you know if someone has hoarded tp in your neighborhood?
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:16 AM
Mar 2020

Conducting bathroom cupboard inspections?

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
23. What scares me most is when a nieghborhood self appointed block captain might show ...
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:24 AM
Mar 2020

up armed to share his plan for order at the front door with two mouthbreathers behind him.

If we think one Trump is a problem, wait till the millions of minitrumps start feeling their oats.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
54. One thing I've learned is that many on DU are obsessed with it.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:55 AM
Mar 2020

So that new poster will fit right in lol.

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
74. Sad and funny. I was at my studio shutting it down getting ready to cancel classes for ...
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:46 AM
Mar 2020

Mondays and I heard one of the older ladies there say she was short on TP. I've just started carrying one of those new roll's center tube rolls in case someone stole the paper again, I gave it to her. Since when do Americans knock the older weaker out of line for TP?

These are interesting times, Americans build a reserve but we don't hoard. Until now.

There's a terrible strain of "I got mine, fuck you" going around that in its way is as bad as Corvid19.

I am leaving the Hill Country and Texas when this is over.

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
87. We waited too long to go to Oregon. By the time we made up our mind after our ...
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 11:12 AM
Mar 2020

audition trip real estate jumped about 30%.

The terminal Tower in Cleveland, Ohio has built out some amazing but really affordable condos and that seems tempting. My grandfather's office was there and I am from "Cleveburgh".

Still looking, we are at an age we want to rent again.

I have a propensity to bronchitis and pneumonia and am being treated for cancer so VA is important, but the Carl Stokes facility there doesn't have a great rating.

Pittsburgh interests me, too.

Somewhere around a college with a strong farm market culture with good VA.

 

wackojacko

(7 posts)
133. 😂
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 04:58 AM
Mar 2020

Inference of such is your own doing. Implication is exactly what I expect after reading DU for more than awhile.

marble falls

(57,013 posts)
135. So what were you implying ....
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 10:36 AM
Mar 2020

"should I find any one that horded TP in my neighborhood, it won't be pretty!"

Would this happen after your house to house search? Would you confiscate and share the wealth?

Disabuse me of my misconception of your words.

 

wackojacko

(7 posts)
136. Idioms are
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 05:43 AM
Mar 2020

The laziest of all retorts.

I would definitely be giving some one an education on what panic buying does to a supply/demand market. Something a few ppl here need to understand.

pazzyanne

(6,543 posts)
42. "...should I find any one that horded TP in my neighborhood, it won't be pretty!"
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:45 AM
Mar 2020

Right there with you on this! I am down to 4 rolls of toilet paper and have no chance of buying more until late April or early May where I live. I have two nieces who have offered to send me an emergency supply. I usually buy so I have one extra package of tp, but I'm just coming out of winter "sheltering in place"and hit the store right after the shortages were in full swing.

tavernier

(12,369 posts)
81. Is your sink near your toilet?
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 11:01 AM
Mar 2020

A wet washcloth is easy to clean after. And soap and water probably a little more thorough than TP anyway.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
94. Those of us who lived on boats, in the Keys, or off the grid (or all of the above lol) find the tp
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 01:07 PM
Mar 2020

hysteria hilarious.

I hear ya, fellow Key dweller!

tavernier

(12,369 posts)
95. And fellow live aboarder!
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 01:12 PM
Mar 2020

We were at Mangrove Marina, old Campbell’s in Tavernier. Where were you?

tavernier

(12,369 posts)
98. We lived in the condo association as you turn into Geiger Key.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 02:17 PM
Mar 2020

My husband was the condo manager there for a year. Horrible people, lol, mostly snow birds, needed his license on the wall but also wanted to illegally run it themselves, breaking all the laws. We left ASAP and settled in Tavernier but loved our days and nights in Key West while we were there. Hubby was a good buddy of Captain Tony. Yes, those were the days.

tavernier

(12,369 posts)
101. For sure you probably met my husband.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 02:51 PM
Mar 2020

I was working at the nursing home in Key West during those days which were the days of HIV/AIDS. Those weren’t good days for all of us. I often think how unfair it is that my gay friends have to go through this, having had to go through that. It would be a fitting irony if they found out that gay people can’t get Covid 19, wouldn’t it?

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
112. I was there in those days too.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 03:26 PM
Mar 2020

Tended bar at the old 416 bar on Appelrouth Lane; they put out a call for all us gay women to give blood for the cause.

Yes, lot of good times in those days, but that disease left a mark. Lost many friends. Two plagues in one lifetime seems a bit much, eh?

tavernier

(12,369 posts)
115. Yeah. I got PCP from one of my patients
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 04:04 PM
Mar 2020

although that was in Martin county before we moved to the Keys. Closest I ever came to dying, but of course I had immunity and did survive. He didn’t. But wow, I was compromised for three years, caught every bug coming down the road. Finally my doc insisted that I not walk out of the house until I’m loaded with protection. I had to swear to get flu shots every year, even if I crawled on my knees. It did finally work because I stopped catching stuff. So yes, I am an advocate of flu shots, pneumonia, etc. though haven’t had a shingles shot yet.
Anyway I think we have probably taken the poor OP’s OP far down the road, so back to the subject matter. But please feel free to message me anytime or give me a holler when you’re back in Paradise. We’ll go out for rum drinks.

haele

(12,640 posts)
63. I was in the Commissary 5 minutes after opening
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:10 AM
Mar 2020

As I knew they had gotten a paper products shipment in the day before and wanted to pick up just one six-pack of TP that would last us through the middle of next month...it was all gone by the time I got to the aisle with one lady standing there crying because she had no TP left in the house and three kids.
The sign said "only one product per shopper" but the commissary had made the mistake of opening all the self-check lines and about 40 people were still in line with two or three large packs of TP hidden under the rest of their groceries.
We have enough TP for a week and we can wait, but I was so mad for the lady I made a nasty comment to another lady who was still shopping about how it was only one package per customer when it was obvious she had three...her quick answer - oh, one of these is for my husband and one for my friend and I'm just waiting for them...
Really, WTF does that matter? All I could think of when I saw those three obvious packages was that poor crying lady and the stunned elderly couple coming up behind her looking at the empty shelves behind her - only 10 minutes after the store opened.
Does "waiting on my husband and friend" justify three giant roll 12 packs that should last the average family with 2 bathrooms 6 months at least?
Our family of four could get by on one of those over almost three months, even using some of it to pick up the occasional hairball.
Our family can last a week longer and I've got enough bleach, buckets and old cotton sheets that we can make due longer using the old "cloth diaper" method of dealing with sanitary products. We also have hand-held shower heads in our tub and shower for a makeshift bidet.
But I'm old school, and don't mind doing laundry every day if I have to.
No reason to hoard and mess with your fellow servicemembers and vulnerable elderly and families.

Haele.

efhmc

(14,723 posts)
110. There is a (I think) nation wide group called NextDoor.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 03:21 PM
Mar 2020

Maybe we can use it to post in our area to ask for items we need or items we have extra of. I keep a small supple of face masks which I use when painting. I just need to know who wants/need them nearby.

Iggo

(47,535 posts)
71. Hoarding long term versus short term. That IS a good plan!
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:38 AM
Mar 2020

”I’ve saved my money, buy a little extra all year long and am still holding steady, because I plan.”

Good for you!

coti

(4,612 posts)
121. It's a great investment. TP money is automatically taken out of my paycheck, along with my 401(k)
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 07:21 PM
Mar 2020

and health insurance.

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
20. I bought about 5 full grocery carts of food a month ago
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:17 AM
Mar 2020

Back when everyone on DU and at work were all telling me not to worry so much.

Two chest freezers full of meat to boot. I've got 4 months worth of calories, easy.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
25. Are you expecting the grocery stores to close?
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:28 AM
Mar 2020

They haven’t closed even in Italy.

Can you link to a thread where DUers were telling you not to worry?

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
50. I'm planning on quarantining as much as possible
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:49 AM
Mar 2020

The last place I want to be is a grocery store right now.

Italy still hasn't peaked in part because people can still so easily get groceries. It's become one of the primary sources of exposure.

And here's a DU post where COVID was compared to Y2K, and I was told to feel embarrassed if I was considering a 2-week quarantine.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213033179

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
59. Thanks for the link.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:03 AM
Mar 2020

However, it looks like most people were on your side in that thread.

I don’t understand why people take posts on a discussion board so personally.

My father predicted something like this happening for years. Bought land in the country, built a bunker, stocked it with supplies etc. way before the preppier fad. I still have the land and bunker, lol.

My mother always laughed at him, but he never took it personally. They’ve both passed now, and I imagine him having a grim “I told you so moment” with my mom now, wherever their spirits fly.

durablend

(7,455 posts)
61. You do understand
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:04 AM
Mar 2020

That any time you go shopping theoretically you need to self quarantine for *another* 14 days. Unless you're sure you've had it already and know for sure you're not going to contract it a second time (which no one has said is the case). Doesn't make a difference whether or not one thinks stores will remain open, but you're placing yourself at greater risk every time you go to the store (and as the weeks roll on)

 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
104. Unless the power goes out when there's no one left to run the plants
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 02:53 PM
Mar 2020

Then you’ve got a bunch of rotting food. But hey, I guess foresight, real or not, makes for some interesting tales.

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
21. My main store is selling out of the reasonably priced items while expensive specialty items remain
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:17 AM
Mar 2020

When I went at 9 am last Tuesday only $5 bread and just a few store brand $1.29 whole wheat remained. They had only 3 $1.28/lb turkey breasts left so I got one and a cheap whole wheat bread but there were more of the more expensive meats/bread.

I saw same trend all over store of the lower priced mainstays gone and high dollar stuff still on shelves including produce dept.

radical noodle

(7,997 posts)
26. I suspect it's to try to minimize hoarding
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:28 AM
Mar 2020

I've seen photos of people with a cartload of meat, who've decimated the meat section leaving nothing for others. I've been told by friends that they cannot find meat in their stores. It's a terrible thing, and I tend to think rationing is a better way of dealing with those who won't stop taking everything they see.

JmAln

(69 posts)
36. I saw the same thing.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:39 AM
Mar 2020

There was no meat or eggs, but the fresh produce section looked completely normal. I guess that shows people's priorities.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
39. Different trucks come at different times and days.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:42 AM
Mar 2020

I've seen stores with limited produce. Their produce truck may have come that morning and their dairy and meat the day before.

radical noodle

(7,997 posts)
41. Produce doesn't keep
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:45 AM
Mar 2020

and although there are ways to dry it or freeze some of it, most people don't have the knowledge to do that. People are not thinking about today's dinner, they're frantic about what they might eat a month from now.

eyeofnewt

(146 posts)
85. Same here
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 11:04 AM
Mar 2020

At several large chains around me no meat, eggs, milk, canned food...plenty of fruits and vegetables. On the Nextdoor app people kindly post where they find stuff that day, usually in the early morning, but I don’t want to run out each day for things I don’t have and increase exposure. I went to Kroger and bought enough for a week, even though it’s stuff I normally don’t eat or buy. It was doable with some sacrifice-taste/preference/price-which is worth it to limit contact. That being said, I can’t afford more than one week’s worth of groceries in a no-virus time, so stocking up isn’t an option anyway.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
38. Some stores are minimizing hoarding by implementing quantity limits.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:41 AM
Mar 2020

They don't have to jack up the price at a time like this. The OP didn't say, but I doubt this is a major chain.

obamanut2012

(26,047 posts)
106. Yup, no legit store/chain would be doing this now
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 02:57 PM
Mar 2020

This has to be some local place that takes pleasure in gouging their neighbors.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
123. They may gain short-term, but their customers will rememer their scumbag price gouging.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:38 PM
Mar 2020

This could put them out of business when this is all over.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
29. Sounds like socialism
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:36 AM
Mar 2020

except it's capitalism, hoarding, selfishness, greed, and a criminally incompetent presidential administration providing every outcome they claimed liberals would do to us.

BumRushDaShow

(128,503 posts)
30. At least he found meat
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:36 AM
Mar 2020

I was at one of my local supermarkets at 7 am this morning (the 6 - 7am hour is reserved for 60+ and I am 2 years short of that) and all the meat was gone. And I only went there because a couple other closer supermarkets to me have been out of meat (including chicken, beef, pork - with maybe a few hams left) the entire week.

radical noodle

(7,997 posts)
53. You're not alone
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:54 AM
Mar 2020

and it's not just in the US. A friend in the UK cannot find meat, cleaning supplies, or paper products but they had some Pimms so she got some to drown her sorrows.

BumRushDaShow

(128,503 posts)
67. They closed all the state stores here in PA
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:22 AM
Mar 2020

and only due to recent changes in the blue laws, do they have some supermarkets around the state to sell beer and wine, plus there are beer distributors. But otherwise, people cleared out the hard liquor last week before the closures. In that case, I was still stocked from when I bought stuff around Christmas

18 hours ago
4:17 PM - March 20, 2020
Liquor sales soared before Pennsylvania state stores closed for pandemic

Liquor sales shot up by more than 58% in Pennsylvania between March 1 and March 17, compared to the same time period last year, according to data released by the Pennsylvania Liquor Control Board Friday.

People rushed to the PLCB’s Fine Wine & Good Spirits stores in the days before the end of business Tuesday, when Gov. Wolf indefinitely closed all state stores in an attempt to stem the spread of the coronavirus.

According to the PLCB, Pennsylvanians spent more than $181 million in liquor through March 17 this month, up from $114 million during the same period last year. The PLCB figures include retail consumers, licensees, and online sales.

Sales were also up in January by 6% and in February by 12%. Overall through March 17 of this year, PLCB sales were up 21% compared to last year.

https://www.inquirer.com/health/coronavirus/live/coronavirus-covid-19-philadelphia-pennsylvania-new-jersey-confirmed-case-updates-news-20200320.html#card-283908706

radical noodle

(7,997 posts)
69. Many liquor stores here are
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:34 AM
Mar 2020

next to or in the grocery. Both Publix and Winn-Dixie have liquor as does Sams. I'm not sure if they've closed them or not.

BumRushDaShow

(128,503 posts)
76. There are only a handful of states left that have this sort of state-run
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:54 AM
Mar 2020

and/or state monitored system. Otherwise everyone else either has as you noted, standalone liquor stores and sales in supermarkets.

I know I went to college at UMASS and it was a shock to my PA existence to experience "the package store" as they called it and to go on a "packy run" (often buying that cheap "Chilla-Cella" wine).



The diehard here in SE PA roll across the bridge to Jersey to try to stock up and some hearty souls even run down to Delaware to get stuff (no sales tax there).
 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
75. You can order online from State Wine and Spirits
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:48 AM
Mar 2020

They were telling people this at the store before they closed. Are they waiving shipping charges?

Shop Rite and Weiss got a license to sell beer and wine, but Walmart never did. Giant might sell them but don't know.

BumRushDaShow

(128,503 posts)
79. I haven't tried the online store although I had considered it in the past
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:59 AM
Mar 2020

to maybe get some "special order" stuff. I expect they would probably be sold out of the most popular stuff by now as it is.

There is an Acme and Giant not far from me that sell beer and wine but that doesn't help if I want to make some chambord margaritas (although I already have that stuff in my stash)!

obamanut2012

(26,047 posts)
109. Palm Beach County is allowing alcohol to be delivered
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 03:05 PM
Mar 2020

Including with food takeout. First time ever allowed.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
131. Van Zandt County (TX) is allowing drive-through alcohol sales with a restaurant food purchase.
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 10:06 AM
Mar 2020

First time for that, afaik.



-Laelth

MontanaFarmer

(630 posts)
32. Re: meat prices,
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:37 AM
Mar 2020

The price on the ranch has declined while the price to consumers has increased. Leave it to the meat packers to use a crisis to screw people at both ends of the delivery system.

Shrek

(3,975 posts)
40. I went yesterday evening about 6:30 PM
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:45 AM
Mar 2020

It seemed deceptively normal.

No toilet paper, but most of the other shelves were stocked pretty well. It wasn't any more crowded than usual, but everyone was conspicuously doing the social-distance thing which is still jarring to me.

I was able to buy everything on my list.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
45. If trump stiffs us with this like he does contractors
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:46 AM
Mar 2020

I'll spend nothing unless I absolutely have too until trumps gone, but I bet I give some to trump and mitches opponents. Trump will do us like he does to contractors, then he and Mitch will funnel to the wealthy someway instead of us. If they do that they will have consequences from the American people , because they will be pissed bankers and others were given huge amounts, while we get nothing. Trumps fixing to screw us over again.

mucifer

(23,484 posts)
47. A bit off topic but if you are in the mood to be creative you can save money by
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:49 AM
Mar 2020

buying vital wheat gluten. You can make vegan steaks and ribs and chicken. It's all about the seasoning because the texture is really good.

Ok now I'm sad. I looked online they are out of the 22 ounce bags. Glad I just bought one at my store nearby. It's something Whole Foods carries.

Here are some vital wheat gluten meat recipes:









CountAllVotes

(20,867 posts)
49. I am double high risk
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:49 AM
Mar 2020

I've been following Laurie Garrett.

She said the a few days ago that there was a very small window before this would explode. I believed her and went out to get groceries at Safeway three days ago.

I tend to never shop there due to their high prices. I left with a small cart of food that cost me $375.00! My god! I've never spent even half that amount in a grocery store in my entire life!

There went 1/2 the check for the month, HALF!

Damn these criminals, damn them all!

They hate people. Esp. the elderly, the sick and the poor!

SHAME ON THESE BASTARDS!

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
55. Here are the store shelves today in a socialist country ravaged by Covid-19
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:57 AM
Mar 2020


Yeah, I get your point on meat. As far restocking, meat is lower priority and takes more time to get to market from producers. Lots of nonperishables are just taken from warehouses and trucked to stores but meat requires some killing and processing first.

I've been through lean times before so while hoarders were hoarding toilet paper, I got some meat (not a lot) and froze it. My main priority is getting fresh produce and finding more cleaning supplies when mine run out since I'm running low after doing a lot of cleaning this past week.

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
68. The Menards one appers to be false.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:27 AM
Mar 2020

The picture used to "prove" they were raising prices shows two different product codes.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2451626

Menards indicated that the two products were concentrated vs. non-concentrated.

"Menards spokesman Jeff Abbott said in a statement that the Wisconsin-based chain considered the Clorox price reasonable because, while like other bleach it was sold in a gallon jug, it was more concentrated and would last customers twice as long."

Here are the two different products:

https://www.menards.com/main/grocery-home/housewares/laundry-care/bleach/new-clorox-reg-concentrated-bleach-121-oz/32416/p-3289655538641098-c-3608.htm

https://www.menards.com/main/grocery-home/housewares/cleaning-supplies/all-purpose-cleaners/clorox-reg-germicidal-bleach-121-oz/2489/p-1444426628918-c-7097.htm

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
65. I saw a large roll of Bounty paper towels on eBay at $3.99
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:16 AM
Mar 2020

Shipping charge was $19 !

$22.99 for one roll of paper towels ?

Response to redstatebluegirl (Original post)

Squidly

(783 posts)
73. Im so glad I hunt and fish
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:41 AM
Mar 2020

2 freezers stocked with venison, duck, turkey and goose. Even have a pile of brats made from the venison and goose. Other good thing is that mushroom and wild asparagus season is fast approaching so theres that as well.

Demovictory9

(32,423 posts)
90. I went just after the doors opened at 7am. toilet paper/ paper towels available but almost gone
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 12:04 PM
Mar 2020

They had enough toilet paper/paper towels to last 30 minutes. One pallet of water that was almost gone.

I scored a bag of cuties! and some fresh spinach. the salad area was almost wiped out. so were the canned goods.

Shermann

(7,399 posts)
130. Good one!
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 09:35 AM
Mar 2020

As I stated in another thread, cash will be used as toilet paper after they print that 2 - 3 trillion for the stimulus package.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
113. Publix in central FL had regular ground beef the other day. $6.49/lb
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 03:27 PM
Mar 2020

I passed. My daughters work at a steakhouse here (one works the to-go counter) and they are offering wholesale prices to them for steaks and chicken

$9 for a big ribeye and a couple bucks less for some nice sirloin

obamanut2012

(26,047 posts)
102. Then blame your Governor
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 02:52 PM
Mar 2020

DeSantis is an evil fuck, but he declared a public emergency weeks ago, and just like when it's done for hurricanes, this kind of stuff is illegal.

Also, no legitimate grocery chain would do something like this now, so change where you shop.

tritsofme

(17,371 posts)
119. In the Chicago area, I just went to a smaller grocery chain, and their meat was fully stocked.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 07:12 PM
Mar 2020

There was tons of ground beef and chicken breasts/thighs like I haven’t seen since this craziness started last week. Maybe the hoarders have finally filled their freezers and extra freezers?

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