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turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:48 AM Mar 2020

Here's why Florida got all the emergency medical supplies it requested while other states did not

Published 1 min ago on March 21, 2020
By Pro Publica

On March 11, Florida requested a cache of emergency supplies from the federal government to protect its medical workers against the novel coronavirus.

Three days later, the state got everything it wanted.

Other states had only tiny slivers of their requests fulfilled, including some that had asked for them earlier than Florida. Oregon and Oklahoma received only about 10%; New Jersey got less than 6%.

This disparity has not been lost on the states that feel shortchanged in their requests from the Strategic National Stockpile, a trove of supplies managed by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/heres-why-florida-got-all-the-emergency-medical-supplies-it-requested-while-other-states-did-not/

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At the moment, states aren’t receiving much in the way of assurances from the federal government. During a press conference on Thursday, Trump said that while domestic manufacturers of face masks have gone into overdrive and the White House is helping, governors need to work to find supplies themselves.

“The government’s not supposed to be out there buying vast amounts of items and then shipping, we’re not a shipping clerk,” Trump said. “As with testing, the governors are supposed to be doing it.”

Perla Trevizo contributed reporting.


You are the a fucking shipping clerk............................that is what a president does in a fucking emergency..................you fucking idiot.....................your suppose to lead even if that means being the lead shipping clerk..................I really fucking despise this asshole......................and he's suppose to have graduated with a management degree from a college...................


November 3, 2020 cannot get here fast enough....................

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Here's why Florida got all the emergency medical supplies it requested while other states did not (Original Post) turbinetree Mar 2020 OP
Politics folks. Plain and simple. NCDem47 Mar 2020 #1
Y E P Cosmocat Mar 2020 #3
Planning Dios Mio Mar 2020 #22
trump playing politics with peoples lives....sounds about right spanone Mar 2020 #2
'The system appears to roughly conform to states' populations, rather than the size of their request riversedge Mar 2020 #4
Nice spin they have there. NCDem47 Mar 2020 #5
Follow the votes. Disgusting. nt crickets Mar 2020 #8
Its plausable that both Scott and Desantis lost , but that's another story. Cetacea Mar 2020 #24
So they are claiming that Oregon and NJ asked for too many treestar Mar 2020 #15
You read the article and not just the headline. hay rick Mar 2020 #18
By decree from the royal throne people from this state shall be spared... magicarpet Mar 2020 #6
Yes, he does seem to be into this benevolence thing doesn't he? NCDem47 Mar 2020 #7
So...another reason why government should not be run like a business? Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #9
Especially not one who has run at least six businesses into the ground. ZZenith Mar 2020 #26
Yes Florida get supplies while delaying actions to contain the spread of the virus. PA Democrat Mar 2020 #10
Story didnt really explain why FL got anything, except maybe extra support for cruise ships docking Baclava Mar 2020 #11
He's using supplies and help as a weapon duforsure Mar 2020 #12
I guess I'll just start sending my Federal taxes to the Governors, too ... marble falls Mar 2020 #13
I don't think there's enough time left to vote him out. And he won't go then. Texin Mar 2020 #14
ProPublica is a free site jayschool2013 Mar 2020 #16
"Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves, IronLionZion Mar 2020 #17
Some big numbers. Harker Mar 2020 #19
"Trump to (most of) America: Drop Dead" KSNY Mar 2020 #20
Here's the ProPublica link dmr Mar 2020 #21
K&R for visibility. GOP death panels. bronxiteforever Mar 2020 #23
The real story is we did not get what we were told were were getting GulfCoast66 Mar 2020 #25

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
1. Politics folks. Plain and simple.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 08:52 AM
Mar 2020

He'll shower the swing/purple states with all kinds of blessings. He'll even ignore red states because he know he has them in the bag.

riversedge

(70,177 posts)
4. 'The system appears to roughly conform to states' populations, rather than the size of their request
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:01 AM
Mar 2020

The trumpy Feds messed up

.............While it may appear like the federal government is playing favorites, federal officials said their decisions were based on their best assessment of relative needs. HHS told states this week that it is giving out 25% of the stockpile to states according to population size, and sending another 25% strategically to states with the most severe outbreaks, which can be used for needs such as testing passengers on cruise ships brought back to shore. The remaining 50% will be held in “strategic reserve,” to be used if there’s a huge spike of critical needs around the country.

The inability of the United States to deploy widespread testing for the coronavirus has further complicated how the supplies are being apportioned because health officials do not have a complete picture of where the virus is circulating most widely. But many states, worried that their case counts are about to soar and their hospitals will be swamped, have been unsatisfied with their allotment.

The system appears to roughly conform to states’ populations, rather than the size of their requests. Florida, a state of 21 million, got all 180,000 N95 masks it wanted. Oregon, a state of 4 million, only received 40,000 of the 400,000 masks it requested, and New Jersey, a state of 9 million, got 85,000 of the 2.9 million masks it feels it needs.

It is hard to assess what constitutes a reasonable request. All states are starting with different stockpiles of supplies. Some have been hit harder than others by the virus, and some anticipate they might be. Each state is trying to secure as much as possible for its health workers, who are raising alarms that they are running out of basic supplies...............

treestar

(82,383 posts)
15. So they are claiming that Oregon and NJ asked for too many
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 11:10 AM
Mar 2020

in proportion to their population, and that some states already had more in proportion to theirs.

OK, but did they show the numbers?

Also why not use the figure calculated based on how many are hospitalized in each state, and whether the state is doing anything, since it seems FL was doing so little to prevent the spread.

hay rick

(7,600 posts)
18. You read the article and not just the headline.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 11:22 AM
Mar 2020

If there's an outrage, it's that Florida's initial request was too small- at least compared to other states.

magicarpet

(14,143 posts)
6. By decree from the royal throne people from this state shall be spared...
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:12 AM
Mar 2020

.... while those less favorable to the king will succumb and be ravaged by illness and death from CV-19.

Inflating and massaging the ego of the king consistently and constantly has handsome rewards and payoffs.

Those who do will live a long life, those who don't will meet a quicker death than might have otherwise been anticipated.

Glory be the King.

Baitball Blogger

(46,697 posts)
9. So...another reason why government should not be run like a business?
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:44 AM
Mar 2020

Or run by a businessman? He's triaging based on personal interest.

PA Democrat

(13,225 posts)
10. Yes Florida get supplies while delaying actions to contain the spread of the virus.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:45 AM
Mar 2020

They raked in cash from the spring break party, most likely seeding new sources of transmission as the tourists return home.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
11. Story didnt really explain why FL got anything, except maybe extra support for cruise ships docking
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 09:59 AM
Mar 2020

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
12. He's using supplies and help as a weapon
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:27 AM
Mar 2020

By refusing help, or dragging his feet for some help, while giving red states , or liked Gov. That suck up to him all they need.

marble falls

(57,060 posts)
13. I guess I'll just start sending my Federal taxes to the Governors, too ...
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 10:54 AM
Mar 2020

its only a coincidence that Mar-a-Lago and Doral are in Florida.

Texin

(2,594 posts)
14. I don't think there's enough time left to vote him out. And he won't go then.
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 11:04 AM
Mar 2020

The only remedy is if someone convinces him he needs another CV test and the swab they use is infected with the virus.

jayschool2013

(2,312 posts)
16. ProPublica is a free site
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 11:21 AM
Mar 2020
So here's the original link.

They do very important work, and if you have a few dollars to contribute, that would help. I have a former student doing investigative work on these coronavirus cases, and he's the best investigative journalist I've ever met.

Please go to the original stories as often as you can, especially if they're on free sites.

IronLionZion

(45,403 posts)
17. "Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves,
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 11:21 AM
Mar 2020

"Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves, that if the British Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will still say, "This was their finest hour." -Sir Winston Churchill

"The only thing we have to fear is fear itself--nameless, unreasoning, unjustified terror which paralyzes needed efforts to convert retreat into advance." Franklin Delano Roosevelt

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." Dwight D. Eisenhower

"I'm not responsible, the governors are supposed to be doing it." Donald John Trump

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
25. The real story is we did not get what we were told were were getting
Sat Mar 21, 2020, 11:37 AM
Mar 2020

The governor even expressed frustration that only a pittance of what we need actually arrived. Of course the SOB never admitted who was to blame.

We still can’t test much and are basically out of PPE for our medical workers.

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