We have now reached #3 on the COVID-19 charts

[DonaldsRump]

Only Italy and China are ahead of us now. We have surpassed ALL other countries.

This is the TRUMP VIRUS, to remember forever the idiot that destroyed our health, economy, and nation by doing nothing for months.

[Under The Radar]

1. Look out China, we are climbing the charts!

[lunatica]

21. We'll be #1 any time now!

Trump will be so proud.

[Turbineguy]

28. We're

Winning! Trump Style.

[Dirty Socialist]

33. AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM

My ass

[Siwsan]

2. Total cases or per capita cases?

I could be wrong, but I'd think Italy is leading the per capita category.

[DonaldsRump]

3. Total

As per Johns Hopkins website.

[meadowlander]

5. Here's the link

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

We're low on per capita but only because we weren't testing for so long and the big explosion of cases only came recently so we don't know what the outcomes are going to be.

[Siwsan]

6. Thanks

I suspect testing AND population distributions might figure in.

Detroit and its suburban 'satellite cities', just south of here, have the vast majority of the cases in the state. It also has the most densely packed population. The only other county with a "high" number is Kent, which is where Grand Rapids is located. That's the 2nd largest city in Michigan. Most other counties are reporting cases in the single digits. Well, so far.

I guess only time will tell.

[pat_k]

11. I did a comparison of tests, cases, deaths in "big three" (NY, WA, CA)

You might find it interesting.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213146845

[Siwsan]

18. Thanks!

I just checked the update. 679 of Michigan's 787 cases are in 3 counties: Wayne, Macomb and Oakland. All of the deaths have taken place in those counties. Population around 4,250,000

Genesee County, where I live, is now at 7 identified cases. At least 4 of those are able to quarantine at their homes. Our population is approx 425,000

I totally lack the math gene, so I'll leave it at that.

[pat_k]

25. All three in the Detroit-Warren-Dearborn Metropolitan Statistical Area (MSA)

From Wikipedia

In the United States, a metropolitan statistical area (MSA) is a geographical region with a relatively high population density at its core and close economic ties throughout the area

The six counties in are:
as the six counties of Lapeer, Livingston, Macomb, Oakland, St. Clair, and Wayne.

You can probably expect cases to be higher in these areas. Particularly in where residents make heavy use of public transportation (infected people "pre-lockdown" who in turn infected people who may just be showing symptoms now).

I fear for our most densely populated areas. (If your curious, an ordered list of densest "census designated areas" here.)

[RandySF]

4. USA! USA! USA!

[Igel]

7. D'uh.

Let's assume we all have 3% of our population infected.

Where would the US rank?

#3.

Why? Because we have the third largest population.

It's why people are saying, "We need things to be put in per capita terms."

It's like California in the US. It should rank #1 for most things, because when it comes to population it's #1.

Right now India's punching below it's weight, COVIDically, and Italy's way above. So's Spain.

As we test more things will fall into line. It's one of the cases where "equal means inferior," apparently.

Oh. Need to act link for "we're #3." https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/population-by-country/ There. That's better.

[DonaldsRump]

9. D'uh???

Where are India and Russia? Perhaps they're not testing? D'uh, neither are we!

Italy is the second largest country? D'uh, it's not.

We were supposed to have zero cases according to our Idiot Leader. D'uh, we do have far more than zero cases.

D'uh...Johns Hopkins might be a better medical institute than the one associated with your link: https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Feel free to D'uh some more!

[pat_k]

24. Density

Assuming greater spread by population density, NY, NJ, CA are looking at numerous "hot spots" akin to what NY is seeing in NYC.

Here's a list of areas within the different Metropolitan Statistical Areas (MSA's) by density.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_population_density

And here are some of the top areas on the list (the numbers are number of people per square mi):

New York City Metropolitan Area (Includes NJ)
NJ: Guttenberg (57,000), Union City (52,000), West New York (49,000) Hoboken (39,000), Cliffside Park (25,000), East Newark (24,000)... many more
NY: Kaser (28,000), NYC (27,000 -- Manhattan is 66,000) ... many more.

Los Angeles Metropolitan Area
CA: Maywood (23,000), Cudahy (21,000), Huntington Part (19,000), West Hollywood (18,297)...

SF Metropolitican Area
San Francisco (17,264)

Boston Metropolitan Area
Somerville (18,000), Cambridge (16,000)

Densely populated areas in MSAs in other states include Miami, Louisville, Philadelphia, Providence

Also, a summary of tests, cases, deaths relative to pop in NY, WA, CA...
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=edit&forum=1002&thread=13146784&pid=13147244

[Ms. Toad]

8. Still too close to call with Spain -

On Worldometers, Spain is still ahead. But we're really really close.

[DonaldsRump]

15. Would trust Johns Hopkins more than "worldometers"!

In any event, one of the finest medical institutes in the world says the US is number 3 in total number of cases. I am not sure why anyone would argue with that shocking number.

[Ms. Toad]

17. Johns Hopkins isn't updated with the same regularity as Worldometers

I started tracking with that site back in January, and switched about a month about a month ago to worldometers.

The data on Johns Hopkins is not their own data. They are culling data from the sources and aggregating on their site (as does worldometers, the NYtimes map that tracks every site, 1point3acres, etc.). Since this a data aggregation question, not a medical question, I stick with one as my primary source, and it is the the one that I observed over a period of time being more consistent with the source data that I periodically check against.

I'm not questioning their medical prowess - but this particular site has nothing to do with medical prowess.

That said, provided each site is up to date, there is no statistical difference between any of them. And - as I said - Spain v. US is too close to call.

ETA: While I was typing this, Spain and US flipped positions on Worldometers. Still too close to call, though - Iran and the US flipped back and forth for much of a day before US pulled ahead.

[DonaldsRump]

20. The issue has less to do with who is number 1, 2, or 3

Than the fundamental point of my OP: Trump is 100% to blame for even 1 case of the Trump Virus as he is for every case of the Trump Virus, given his reprehensible failure to act.

Quibbling about whether we are ahead or tied with Spain takes the discussion off the real point: we have a serious issue that shows no signs of abating.

Trump himself said there would be zero cases, and we are now near the top of the world well after other countries have reached their crisis numbers. It can only get worse from here, and that is 100% Trump's fault.

[Ms. Toad]

23. Agreed. n/t

[Yonnie3]

10. I keep track of cases per Million population - The US is fifth

Top 5 in incidence of COVID-19 cases per Million of Population (updated midday today)

Italy 886
Spain 534
France 216
UK 76
US 65

3/17 I had
Italy 521
Spain 240
France 115
UK 29
US 17

The US is a larger country with significant numbers of citizens in less densely populated areas so it will take longer to spread. We will see what this looks like as testing in the US increases.

My data comes from NY Times. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/world/coronavirus-maps.html

[LisaL]

14. We are still not testing nearly enough.

We could easily be number #1 on there if everybody who was symptomatic could get tested.

[DonaldsRump]

16. Bing, bing, bing, to paraphrase Dear Leader n/t

[Yonnie3]

19. Plus testing everyone who was in contact and is not symtomatic (yet) or is asymptomatic

Until testing is expanded beyond those who are symptomatic, we can't get ahead of this other than by assuming everyone is a carrier and acting accordingly.

[pat_k]

29. You might be interested in this...

Summary of tests, cases, deaths relative to population in the "big three" (NY, WA, and CA)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213146845

[Yonnie3]

30. Yes, I am.

Thank you very much. I'm tired and blurry eyed so I'm bookmarking for later.

I am anxious to start seeing antibody test results. I believe some tests will soon be given. A much better picture of who, when and where can be made with these tests.

[Bluethroughu]

13. TRUMP PLAGUE

He and the Republican party are fully responsible for this!

This is nothing but an ugly purposeful act.

[bdamomma]

22. It's the TRUMP virus

fucking tRump. He needs to burn in hell.

[Blue_true]

26. Soon, we will be #1. Murica!!!! USA, USA.

Sadly we have a complete moron in charge while we barrel toward that disastrous record.

[ffr]

27. And if you've got it in the US or UK, you're more likely to die than recover

Based on the current statistics. The other countries in the top 10 known cases, all show you are more likely to survive than die.

Weird.

[Demonaut]

31. the deaths have gone up slightly, serious critical have remained the same for days, are they

withholding data?, did the 340 go from diagnosed to dead?
Did not make it into "serious/critical"?

[LovingA2andMI]

32. Not Surprised....