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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBest proof that it was Trump who messed up and not China's fault.
Link to tweet
I don't know how to 'unroll' the rest, but read through it. He takes each important date and documents how US failed to act.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)and since all of the Trump merch comes from China, someone should start a rumor that the merch is contaminated with COVID-19. It's in the hats!
gordianot
(15,237 posts)....but toilet paper is made in America. Good idea I intend to play with this at a Trump T shirt shop.
oldsoftie
(12,523 posts)the cardboard rolls
gordianot
(15,237 posts)Delay the pain, but this is collapse. Food riots are are around the corner and rationing is coming. When not looting Trump has the empathy of Atilla the Hun.
tulipsandroses
(5,122 posts)fans. Trump and his fans were busy blowing this off instead of taking action. When he was being warned early on by his own experts, he wanted no part of it. He wanted to talk about vaping, not a deadly virus heading our way. But once again, blaming China is another one of those alternative facts that only the brainwashed will believe. Anyone but him, and this administration. Blame China, Blame Obama. But not this administration that is currently in power.
Odoreida
(1,549 posts)... still China's fault.
Don't let them off the hook just because Trump stinks too.
The USA is not the whole world.
Strelnikov_
(7,772 posts)former9thward
(31,970 posts)China hid the scope of this until it exploded and they could not contain it any longer. In the meantime people were traveling into and out of the region and the country infecting others all over the globe. China is completely responsible. Hopefully this will lead our political leaders to reduce trade and investment in China until a more transparent government takes over.
China also allows the filthy conditions to exist in the interior of the country. Of course the media just like to show Shanghai and Beijing. Interesting to see who is jumping up to defend China in this...
catsudon
(839 posts)why are we letting china off the hook?!!!
it is china's fault AND trumps fault? we do not have to pick and choose.
if trump is touting ventilator are good things, will we stop using it?
dem4decades
(11,282 posts)"Because of Trumps negligence, the United States lost two months of response time precious days that should have been used to test the population, produce more N95 masks and ventilators, and build new hospital beds. This past week, the Pentagon finally announced that a Navy hospital ship would be heading to New York but it will take at least two weeks to get ready. Why wasnt the deployment order given sooner? Even now, with the crisis upon us, Trump hesitates to use his full authority to order wartime production of ventilators needed to keep thousands of patients alive."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/21/this-wouldnt-have-happened-if-hillary-clinton-had-won/#comments-wrapper
I know it has a paywall but some may be able to read it.
Trailrider1951
(3,414 posts)**Quote:
Utterly lacking in empathy, Trump is incapable of rallying a shell-shocked nation. When asked on Friday, What do you say to Americans who are watching you right now who are scared?, Trump launched into a tirade against the reporter who asked the question. Like the snake-oil salesman that he is, his version of reassurance is to tout miracle cures that have not been verified by medical science.
I weep in anger and frustration imagining what might have been if Hillary Clinton a sane, sensible adult had won. We couldnt have avoided the coronavirus, but we could have ameliorated its effects. We could be South Korea (102 deaths) rather than Italy (4,825 deaths and counting).
It was precisely because we were afraid of how Trump would mishandle his weighty responsibilities that some Never Trump conservatives supported Clinton in 2016. On May 8, 2016, I wrote in the Los Angeles Times: There has never been a major party nominee in U.S. history as unqualified for the presidency. The risk of Trump winning, however remote, represents the biggest national security threat that the United States faces today.
I do not cite my earlier article one of dozens I wrote in 2015 and 2016 warning in ever-more-urgent tones of the danger of electing Trump as a way of patting myself on the back for prescience. It took no foresight to predict that Trump would be a catastrophe in a crisis. It was close to the conventional wisdom. Yet nearly 63 million voters chose to disregard such warnings.
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dem4decades
(11,282 posts)NNadir
(33,512 posts)JudyM
(29,225 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)And they did something about it while trump, who had ignored warnings of exactly this, then still did nothing . Now trump is trying to demonize them , and lying making false claims by promoting propaganda against them to hide his complete failure to protect us. Trump and pence failed , and still in charge of this which is failing fast too, and while trump claims again the opposite of the truth saying he is doing a great job, while everything tanks on us all. Trump and pence can't even be truthful with any of this or anything else they say or do. They both should be called on to resign for this at once.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)malaise
(268,885 posts)https://www.voanews.com/usa/us-politics/transcript-president-trumps-state-union-address
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His administration did not take all the necessary steps to safeguard citizens or the production of masks and respirators would have been high on the agenda. Further the next day at the rally he accused the fake media and Democrat (sic) Party of a hoax. Then there's this
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213100287
Trump says the coronavirus is the Democrats new hoax
PUBLISHED FRI, FEB 28 20207:32 PM ESTUPDATED SAT, FEB 29 20203:14 PM EST
Thomas Franck
@TOMWFRANCK
KEY POINTS
President Trump says that Democrats are using the virulent coronavirus as a hoax to damage him and his administration.
The Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus, he said from a campaign rally in North Charleston, South Carolina. This is their new hoax.
The coronavirus, which began in Wuhan, China, has now killed more than 2,800 people worldwide and infected more than 80,000.
The total number of cases in the U.S. was 63 as of the latest announcements, with most cases being former passengers on the Diamond Princess cruise ship and evacuees from Wuhan.
spanone
(135,816 posts)The HHS Secretary Alex Azar was alerted on January 3 that CDC director Dr. Robert Redfield had discussions with Chinese doctors about the virus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_201920_coronavirus_pandemic_in_November_2019__January_2020
malaise
(268,885 posts)No doubt he told big pharma to get ready for a killing
I posted some of this from the New England Journal of Medicine - they fucking knew. It was all about his numbers.
Champp
(2,114 posts)leaving the USA undefended
RAB910
(3,497 posts)if we are going to make up names we should make them descriptive
underpants
(182,736 posts)Marking for reference
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Trump and pence did nothing and caused the critical situation we're now in. They failed to protect us then, so why are they in charge of anything now? Neither one can be honest and tell the truth on anything, both are corrupt and ignorant so why are they still in charge of this? Calls for their resignations should be done, and remove them from making this a lot worse fast.
2naSalit
(86,515 posts)pazzyanne
(6,546 posts)former9thward
(31,970 posts)Every country has a higher death rate than the U.S.
Per million people
US 1.1
Germany 1.1
S. Korea 2.0
China 2.3
UK 3.6
Belgium 6.6
France 8.4
Netherlands 7.9
Iran 20.6
Spain 36.9
Italy 79.8
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/
pazzyanne
(6,546 posts)Just this morning there was this environmental issue and the fact that he is still working on building his wall. All the while, he is ignoring his responsibilities to this nation in fighting the coronavirus. People in this nation are focused on the pandemic, tRump is focused on making money for the oil industry and in completing his stupid wall.
Turin_C3PO
(13,952 posts)Everyone except his cultists know this. Our low death rate is good but has absolutely nothing to do with him. We have good hospitals and great healthcare workers. Trump gets zero credit in this crisis.
mainer
(12,022 posts)We'll catch up. Unfortunately. The difference is, we got way more warning.
former9thward
(31,970 posts)And everyone found out at the same time.
MartyTheGreek
(565 posts)It's possible that many of the walking healthy are now carriers because of the delay in social distancing that could have begun earlier by weeks! Someone posted this link this morning. A model of when US hospitals that will be overwhelmed with patients at the current rate of spread. Consider the Cases vs. Hospitalizations number? There's a lot of people walking around with it, IMHO.
My McAfee noted a warning my it's a .org site. Click on your State...
https://covidactnow.org/
Check the Death rate for Italy. (Johns Hopkins Tracking site) Yesterday it jumped over 700 died in 24 hours. Consider the density of NY and what might happen there! The NY deaths are now approaching WA including the nursing home numbers.
https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6
former9thward
(31,970 posts)But the numbers are not showing it. People told me that two weeks ago and the numbers did not jump to what Italy's are. Why is Germany so low? They have about 1/2 the number of infections (24,000) as Italy (53,600) yet their total deaths are only about 90 and Italy's 4,800.
jayschool2013
(2,312 posts)Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)The MAGATs want to call it the Wuhan Virus after where it originated and they claim trumps handling of the pandemic is phenomenal. So, in honor of trumps supposed great handling, we should refer to the virus and pandemic as the trump Pandemic and trump Virus. The same goes with the trump economy.
Its just like how they called the Affordable Care Act Obamacare in an effort to smear Obama and his legislation. It turned out to be very popular and a term of endearment for the ACA.
thesquanderer
(11,982 posts)jxla
(201 posts)liberalla
(9,234 posts)thank you!
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)Democrats walking away from the party to join the trumpie cult)
Weak and sad and stupid and useless and yet ANOTHER waste of energy better spent building temp hospitals and strengthening the food supply...
We ALL watched Wuhan hospitals going up in late January - whats today, you fuckin fools??
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)They knew ten years ago these were breeding grounds for horrific disease. They then delayed the response to the disease and hid the results.
We need to keep the pressure on China. There is no democracy, there are no civil rights, but at least their government, unlike ours, has a sense of shame. Criticism from their own people on social media and across the world did get results, ie closing of wet markets.
AllyCat
(16,174 posts)But we didnt have control of that. 45 and his cult did have control of this once they found out and did WORSE than nothing...they went out spreading misinformation. Hoax. Democrats. Kung Flu. Lies in press conferences to this day.
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)DrToast
(6,414 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)They arent off the hook.
sinkingfeeling
(51,444 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)mainer
(12,022 posts)The first case in China was reported November 17, and it wasn't in Wuhan. At the time it was an unknown illness, and not clear that there was human to human transmission.
https://www.livescience.com/first-case-coronavirus-found.html
The first case in Wuhan was around Dec. 1. Again, this was a NOVEL coronavirus. Meaning NEW.
China alerted WHO there was a problem on Dec. 31.
That is not MONTHS.