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babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 02:33 PM Mar 2020

"And now they know"

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“And now they know”
Published by digby on March 22, 2020
What do they know now? How Trump would handle a crisis.


Haberman and Baker in the New York Times:

Mr. Trump’s performance on the national stage in recent weeks has put on display the traits that Democrats and some Republicans consider so jarring — the profound need for personal praise, the propensity to blame others, the lack of human empathy, the penchant for rewriting history, the disregard for expertise, the distortion of facts, the impatience with scrutiny or criticism. For years, skeptics expressed concern about how he would handle a genuine crisis threatening the nation, and now they know.

“When he’s faced a problem, he has sought to somehow cheat or fix the outcome ahead of time so that he could construct a narrative that showed him to be the winner,” said Michael D’Antonio, a Trump biographer. “And when it was all about feuds with other celebrities or contests over ratings or hotel branding, he could do that and no one cared enough to really check. And the bluster and bragging worked.”

“But in this case,” Mr. D’Antonio added, “he tried that in the beginning and you can’t brag or bluster your way out of people dying. And I think more than the suffering, the human suffering, it’s been the inexorable quality of the data that’s forced him to change.”

Only after viral projections grew more dire and markets began to tank did Mr. Trump shift tone and appear to take the threat more seriously, finally adopting a more aggressive set of policies to compel Americans to stay away from one another while trying to mitigate the economic damage.


Any other president, and I mean any of them, even the worst, would have acted differently. This is the way in which Donald Trump is sui generis. Yes, his policies are generally pretty standard right-wing Republican and the overall trajectory of his presidency is pretty much what Mitch McConnell would have had on his wish list on January 20, 2017.

But it’s the deranged personality, the disorganization, the ignorance, corruption, and narcissism that sets him apart. Many presidents may have had elements of those traits. But never before have we had someone with that whole twisted package. And it’s in a crisis where that becomes a matter of life and death.
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"And now they know" (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2020 OP
How many 'know' ? How soon will many 'know'? empedocles Mar 2020 #1
My Republican-leaning neighbor this morning: marybourg Mar 2020 #2
Aye, there's the rub... Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #3
Had A Similar Event ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #4
And they had a chance to throw him out just a couple months ago nt coti Mar 2020 #5
There was decades of evidence of his incompetence, arrogance, and corruption, CrispyQ Mar 2020 #6
Republicans knew he was a stupid lying sociopath dalton99a Mar 2020 #7
So does this mean that Maggie Wellstone ruled Mar 2020 #8

marybourg

(12,620 posts)
2. My Republican-leaning neighbor this morning:
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 02:42 PM
Mar 2020

“We didn’t know how bad he was.”
Me: We (N.Y.ers) tried to tell you. You wouldn’t listen”
Neighbor: silent

ProfessorGAC

(65,000 posts)
4. Had A Similar Event
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 02:46 PM
Mar 2020

Not going to post the whole story again, but his last word was "Yeah, Trump fucked this up."

CrispyQ

(36,458 posts)
6. There was decades of evidence of his incompetence, arrogance, and corruption,
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 02:51 PM
Mar 2020

for voters who wanted to make a decision based on intellect, not emotion. They have no fucking excuse. You were much nicer than I would have been.

dalton99a

(81,455 posts)
7. Republicans knew he was a stupid lying sociopath
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 02:52 PM
Mar 2020

But they nominated him, voted for him, and refused to remove him


 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. So does this mean that Maggie
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 03:01 PM
Mar 2020

will not get misleading hand outs to rewrite as fact? Interesting to see this coauthored piece with Habberman's name attached.

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