Geebus: Can you imagine having parents like THIS?

[hlthe2b]

"My parents earlier this evening accused me of being disloyal and possibly a traitor because I have been criticizing Trump for his incompetence and criminality.

I served my country on the military. Trump lied and did not, but my own parents just told me to shut up or leave the US"

Link to tweet

[abqtommy]

1. It's a sad fact of life that we do not get to choose our parents. Take this as a learning moment

and move on...

[CaptYossarian]

2. If they're saying that now, wait until the First Amendment is repealed.

[degage]

18. That's not the Amendment they've been brainwashed to support.

They won't care about it - in the very unlikely event it is repealed. They'd be happy to allow Emperor Trump the power to silence the media that doesn't agree with him, praise him, and parrot his lies.

[Richard58]

47. They like the idea of dictator Trump!

I have gone over to some right-wing sites to see what they are saying and I have found some commenting that Trump should just take over the "fake news media" to stop them from lying about him! Trump must not be questioned according to the MAGA morons. I have zero doubt that if Trump cancelled the 2020 election and declared himself "President for Life" his followers would cheer and think this was a great thing.

[CaptYossarian]

63. I meant the poster would be silenced and maybe arrested.

[oldsoftie]

39. No Amendment is going to be repealed. Period.

[CaptYossarian]

64. Too bad. I've got one in mind.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

66. True. Trump and Barr will just ignore them, like Fat Donnie is doing with the Emoluments Clause.

Only suckers believe in the Rule of Law. Smart people believe in the Rule by Me.

[uponit7771]

3. Could not imagine

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[magicarpet]

31. Propaganda is a parasitic attack and eating away of the brain.

Think of it as the progression of encephalitis - day by day it drills deeper and deeper into healthy brain material - eventually the brain is rendered dysfunctional.

This is what the damage of Fascist Right Wing propaganda brings to American society. It is causing great detriment to our healthy and functioning Democracy and its Commonwealth.

[rickyhall]

4. Sounds like my old man who loves Rust Limpdick

[TNNurse]

5. I am so very sorry for anyone who experiences this.

[MarianJack]

6. When I was about 14 or 15 my mother considered me to be a traitor because I opposed Vietnam.

When I was 16 she started to express her doubts.

When I was 17 she was saying that we needed to get out NOW!

I was never going to go but I wasn't going to go to Canada. I was going to face the consequences here.

You don't win a fight by running away.

RESIST!

[True Blue American]

8. Exactly!

Face it. Good for you!

[patphil]

26. My mother was a hawk on VietNam until I got old enough to be drafted, then it hit home.

[WinstonSmith4740]

36. Reminds me of a conversation I had with my mom back then.

Like so many of us here, I'm a boomer. My parents made all the sacrifices people made during WWII, (y'know, the Big One!) and were as dismayed and confused as any of our parents by my generation's response to Viet Nam. But by the time I graduated from college in 1970, they had turned around, too. Dad used to shake his head and talk about the "waste of all those young lives", with a sadness in his voice that I had never experienced. A couple of years later, Mom and I were talking and she told me that if I had been a boy, and had gotten drafted after school, she and dad had decided that she'd pack my bags and he'd drive me to Canada. Totally rocked me back on my heels. She said they decided they'd rather be in a situation where they had to visit me in another country than at the cemetary. They reached the point where they understood that resistance can be patriotic.

I feel so badly for this young woman...Trump is a monster.

[LakeArenal]

56. Not really. In the 70's, amnesty was given for those that fled.

I feel my friends won.

[MarianJack]

57. Yes they did

I was expressing my viewpoint.

Believe me, I got a lot of bloody noses from standing and fighting. I've taken to telling people that I would keep ramming my ace into the other guy's fist until he had my blood all over him.

If Dolt45 starts a war to thy to save his political ass my wife and I would toss our son into the car and head north SO FAST!

BTW, remember the collective shit fit that Republicans and Rightists had over that amnesty?

As always, Donald Trump is an idiot and an ass hat.

RESIST!

[LakeArenal]

60. I'm lucky. My dad was Canadian. We have family there.

They do feel sorry for the sad US.
Love their healthcare,too. Most love Trudeau too.

[MarianJack]

61. I had said that I would love to trade Dolt45 for...

...Trudeau or Macron or Merkel or the PM of New Zealand.

Then I reminded myself that none of these countries deserves a punishment like THAT!

BTW, Donald Tromp is an idiot and an ass hat.

RESIST!

[LakeArenal]

62. More of ....

DONALD J TRUMP IS AN IDIOT AND AN ASS HAT. TRAITOR, CHEATER, LIAR, MURDERING PUSSY GRABBER.

[True Blue American]

7. That is terrible

Your kids are your life. Trump will be gone.

I had an argument with a family member who quoted word for word what Trump said about being handed a broken system by Obama. I went off.

After a couple of emails showing the facts of what really happened I began to get texts on other subjects, then a phone call. I apologized, they said they did not handle their words right. I explained I had just heard Trump say those very words. The person knows I am more involved in politics than they are. End of the subject but you have to be willing to reach across. Otherwise you do serious harm to relationships.

[oldsoftie]

40. Your screen name is appropriate.

Too many people are just too willing to toss away long time relationships because of Trump. I;ve only had it happen twice to me; one was very surprising. I've never done it to anyone & I dont intend to.

[struggle4progress]

9. "And the one who rode upon the pale horse was named Death, and Hell followed after him"

[xxqqqzme]

10. My mother was like this.

She blamed Hillary for everything Complained all the time about Al Gore.

She continued to send me junk emails from rush, hannity and bill-o after I repeatedly asked her to stop. After she died, I learned she had completely disinherited not only me but my children as well. She was not a happy person.

[hlthe2b]

12. I am so sorry for you. Maybe it was just her, but maybe something was actually

going on with her brain chemistry.

At any rate, I hope the pain of having a mother act like that doesn't haunt you.

[yonder]

44. Sorry for the loss of your mom but especially the way your relationship ended.

I think I'm slowly making progress with my own mom. Her sisters and their families are/were that way too but last I saw of them, some chinks in that rusty armor appeared to be developing.

[SergeStorms]

11. How many times have Democrats faced this criticism?

Against the Vietnam "police incursion"? Traitors!
Wanting to hold Nixon's feet to the fire about Watergate? Traitors!
Show "concern" about Iran-Contra? Traitors!
NOT wanting to impeach a president for lying about sex? Traitors!
Wanting to actually READ the Patriot Act before voting on it? Traitors!
NOT willing to throw Hillary Clinton in prison? Traitors!
Wanting to know if our "president" is a Russian asset? Traitors!
Expecting our "president" to NOT extort baseless political information from another nation about his political opponent? Traitors!

Democrats have been called "traitors" every time they want to hold a republican president to the same standards THEY'RE held to by republicans.

I wouldn't put too much weight behind being called a traitor by a republican parent. I did it my entire life until both of my parents died. I was proved correct each and every time I questioned those republican "leaders", and those republican parents.

Ain't no big thang'.

[Kaiserguy]

13. All of our life

since we understand what patriotism is really all about. Its not some knee jerk reactions that America is always right no matter what. Hell we are a nation founded by people who would have been hung as traitors had they lost the war.

[SergeStorms]

15. Exactly.

I'm not going to get too worked up about a woman who's been called a traitor by her parents. I'm 70 years old and have put up with it my entire adult life. It's no biggie. My advice to her? Get used to it.

[docgee]

41. Man, you forgot the 'you're with or against us' dubya war years.

[SergeStorms]

65. If I listed them all....

in my 8:45 AM post I'd still be writing, but thanks for the reminder. We've been under the gun since the Nixon administration, and it hasn't let up since then.

[marble falls]

14. That's Trump - a divider not a uniter ...

For a couple of reasons, one of the major ones I enlisted was so my dad couldn't tell me to shut up when Viet Nam was discussed at the table.

I got told that he wouldn't pay for my college because the University of Akron was a communist brain washing center. I guess that's why its nickname was "Polymer High School". Actually it was because the rubber companies put a lot of money into it and hired at least 50% of their chemists from it).

Ironically the Navy radicalized me even more.

[Sugar Smack]

16. I had to write my own mother off years ago.

My father alone raised my brother and me, and we cultivated our "family" around this. It worked.

[lark]

17. Yeah, my dad was kind of like that during the Viet Nam war because we protested.

He got really angry when we skipped school and went to an anti-Viet Nam march, tried to strangle my sister and we ran away. Not good responses on any of our part. Dad had a breakdown, put his anger in control, terrified us 16 and 17 year old girls, so we lost our minds and just ran. Police caught my sister and returned her home, my dad got treatment, I hung out with friends for 4 months, returned home and we worked things out. My sister and I realized we needed to leave our evangelical house ASAP because our parents couldn't handle the lives we wanted to live, and moved out when we were 18. My sister is a believer, so quickly reconciled with them. I am not a believer, so it took longer. I moved to CA and 4 years later, I had an epiphany and we reconciled. We remained close and I was able to help both of them during their end of life trips.

[BeckyDem]

19. What a journey!

That takes a great deal of personal strength and love.

[lark]

22. Tough people get thru tough times and find a way to thrive.

It wasn't easy, but none of us wanted to have a divided family so we worked together. Dad and I made an agreement when I moved back to town that we wouldn't discuss religion or politics because we were too much alike and got too mad. That worked for us.

[BeckyDem]

24. +1.

[2naSalit]

20. Sounds like my parents back when I was younger.

[BeckyDem]

21. Hard for me to imagine. My parents encouraged critical thought. Politicians SERVE us, not the

other way around.

[hurple]

23. Yes. Mine will no longer speak to me.

Because I told them their love of trump proved everything they taught me (don't be a bully, treat everyone with respect, don't be racist) was a lie.

Oh well. Their loss, not mine.

[kpete]

25. My younger brother & his wife drink lots of kool aide

On our call yesterday he spouted trump talking points flawlessly (with the help of his wife in the background)
He actually said: You know potus only just found out about this

I told him mr pete & i have been cooking, shopping & packing for a month and a half. We were the ones buying wipes and Purell before everyone else.

I also reminded my brother that mr pete is a microbiologist and we get our facts from the scientists not politicians and Fox.

I doubt we will be talking soon

Luckily, the rest of the family is semi-sane

[redstatebluegirl]

27. My husbands brother in law is like that.

My husband like yours is a scientist, biochemist he has tried to talk sense to them to no avail. They watch fox 24/7. We started stocking up like you did about 4 weeks ago.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

28. My son admonished me the other day for being "Confrontational"

Towards others who support Trump on FB.

Apparently he sees sarcasm as being not sarcasm.

[randr]

29. My father and I had issues with VietNam war

One day, by chance, we ended up at the Memorial Wall in DC. Early morning, we stood before it in awe. I asked if he would like to find a friend of mine who grew up in the neighborhood that my dad knew. He had not known Bobby had died in Nam. As we searched the number of people grew, sobbing could be heard. We found Bobby and began to sob ourselves and hugged each other til we had exorcised our sorrow.
There is healing.

[Baltimike]

30. The parents blind allegiance make THEM the traitors. nt

[Wounded Bear]

32. Disgusting...nt

[Cozmo]

33. Maybe you were adopted

[hlthe2b]

35. Me?

[marble falls]

42. I think you were spontaneously sprung forth. Then again, I lit the dooby a little early this morn.

[hlthe2b]

43. wish I could share some vicariously.

[marble falls]

46. As good as this stuff is, I'm surpised you're not listening to Bubble Puppy right now!

[magicarpet]

34. Question Authority,...

Quite often their intentions do not have your best interests at heart.

[marble falls]

45. One of the first thing I taught my kids. 'Because' is not an acceptable answer, always question ...

authority.

[MagickMuffin]

54. "Think For Yourself and Question Authority"

Quote from the Master Sage Timothy Leary!

[Yavin4]

37. Well, thanks to Trump. No one can leave the US, and no country will take us in. n/t

[getagrip_already]

51. except for me, everyone in my family is a dual citizen with germany....

My wife keeps threatening to move there.

They won't turn down citizen entry.

They got it because my wifes mother had to flee germany in 1939 at the age of 7. The german gov't offered citizenship to anyone who lost it during the holocaust, and once my mil got it, all of her kids could get it, and all of theirs.

There was no requirement to relinquish US citizenship, so they each have 2 passports.

Me, I'm stuck here with the rest of you.

[Turbineguy]

38. You can pick your nose....

but you can't pick your parents.

[BarbD]

48. My mother denied the Holocaust.

She could have given Trump lessons in bigotry. I left home and got as far away from her as possible. Needless to say my family was dysfunctional, but I was determined that my children would be raised with compassion and empathy. I am proud of my oldest granddaughter who served in the Peace Corps and is now in Med School in Boston.

We can break the chain of hate.

[hlthe2b]

49. You should be proud--of yourself as well.

[czarjak]

50. Rich...

Coming from Putin-Puppet supporters

[DarleenMB]

52. Teddy Roosevelt on this very subject:

"To announce there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American People."

[hlthe2b]

58. yup. Teddy was one of the "good" Republicans, now extinct.

[getagrip_already]

53. I'm lucky - my whole extended family hates trump - but I have a son who....

Is a bernie or buster. We have, let's say, heated discussions. He accuses me of being an old out of touch liberal living in a bubble. Again, it can get interesting in a I want to send him to his 28 year old room kind of way.

But he always know we love him and he is always welcome. He keeps coming for free food so no damage done, except to my ulcers which I don't yet have but might soon......

[Brainfodder]

55. That's a clear, well you and I won't be speaking until you come back to you senses moment?

[BComplex]

59. Sounds like some members of my family.

But all their kids are so totally brainwashed that they're on board with trump, so none of them will risk being thrown out of the family unit.

Needless to say, none of us talks politics with them anymore.

[ibegurpard]

67. And yet some people here

Continue to say "how can you abandon family over mere politics?" As if it's just a spirited rivalry over sports teams. Such obnoxious privilege.

[Celerity]

68. [phone]

I have to lol when I see that tosh pushed. Truly some divvy shite.