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misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 09:22 PM Mar 2020

I hear more and more voices from the right

advocating for rescuing the economy by isolating the high risk and letting everyone else carry on as normal. When further pressed, they will note that those high-risk folks are basically poor, disabled, infirm and elderly. They're a "drain on the system." "Takers not producers."

Sound vaguely familiar? It should. It's eugenics by another name. Isolate then eradicate.

They don't need the ovens and Zyklon this time. Nature's little bug will do the work.

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I hear more and more voices from the right (Original Post) misanthrope Mar 2020 OP
Hitler did some of that. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2020 #1
+1, T4 program was Hitlers own policy of euthanasia in Germany. People protested and he dropped it uponit7771 Mar 2020 #9
the stupid motherfucking local morn blowhard on the loudest radio station in NM had a "doctor" certainot Mar 2020 #24
What are the chances of a The Wizard Mar 2020 #47
At the risk of being too dark bloom Mar 2020 #2
This is a very uncomfortable discussion to have but, mmbrevo Mar 2020 #11
Yes you are missing something!! That is truly disgusting! Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #32
When you say FM123 Mar 2020 #48
Yes mmbrevo Mar 2020 #59
No apologies, necesary... FM123 Mar 2020 #60
The term you are looking for is "useless eaters" jberryhill Mar 2020 #3
+1, wasn't that a phrase used on Man In High Castle? Acting in that series was tops uponit7771 Mar 2020 #10
sigh jberryhill Mar 2020 #12
It was a Nazi term referring to people they considered unworthy to live. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #55
They've changed that for modern times misanthrope Mar 2020 #19
GOPers aren't going to kill the elderly until after the election. The elderly vote, and lean GOPer. Hoyt Mar 2020 #4
A 40-year old died today here. hamsterjill Mar 2020 #5
Did you hear what that Texas buffoon Dan Patrick said ? Haggis for Breakfast Mar 2020 #6
Dan Patrick is a fucking liar. nt cayugafalls Mar 2020 #13
I'm safe. I don't have grandchildren. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2020 #23
Yep, got my handy shotgun ready just for varmints like him notdarkyet Mar 2020 #33
He also said Traildogbob Mar 2020 #46
Useless eaters they were called in Germany. Texaswitchy Mar 2020 #7
Five more from a disco party at New Bedford got it. Think it's dangerous to hang around trump. notdarkyet Mar 2020 #35
Basically the same dogma we heard from Spiro Agnew in the late 60s. KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2020 #8
The interesting thing is that many right-wing politicians are seniors. smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #14
There are kids in critical condition do to covid, these fascist idiots not only refuse to understand yaesu Mar 2020 #15
Their attitude toward the kids wnylib Mar 2020 #20
Not only is that evil, but it is factually wrong. 50% of Covid deaths are under age 70. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #16
That's an outstanding point you just made!11 Dan Mar 2020 #36
Enjoy your Soylent Green. CaptYossarian Mar 2020 #17
They are truly deplorable...just like Hillary said. nt iluvtennis Mar 2020 #18
Agreed Mis....but Eugenics sounds so much more benign than DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #21
Nazis Bluethroughu Mar 2020 #22
Many of the folks spouting this shit are old. WTF? Joinfortmill Mar 2020 #25
Agree! Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #34
Fucking Nazis. roamer65 Mar 2020 #26
The banality of evil. liberalmuse Mar 2020 #27
Well said. CentralMass Mar 2020 #56
Tonight Glen Beck and Britt Hume are advocating that Generic Brad Mar 2020 #28
Did they provide a starting age point? Dan Mar 2020 #37
Beck says 50. Hume just says grandparents Generic Brad Mar 2020 #40
I suspect that Beck's over 50. Dan Mar 2020 #49
They value only $$$$$ treestar Mar 2020 #29
Sounds like Hitler's Germany. patphil Mar 2020 #30
Republicans don't just let you down, they let you die. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2020 #31
I'm curious about how evangelicals are responding to this wildflower Mar 2020 #38
They have always been Nazis, so they're happy with current events. FiveGoodMen Mar 2020 #58
Then with old republicans it's leighbythesea2 Mar 2020 #39
MOST OF TRUMPS BASE FALL INTO ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES!! blakstoneranger Mar 2020 #41
I think we've now sagetea Mar 2020 #42
I've had a feeling there would be a T4- Eugenics revival coming soon appalachiablue Mar 2020 #43
Prince Philip - 'In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, to Celerity Mar 2020 #44
A boss I had a few years ago .. jb5150 Mar 2020 #45
I know several people who have it and they are all under 50 tavernier Mar 2020 #50
Of course they are also cool with killing the medical professionals. The virus kills us mucifer Mar 2020 #51
"Useless eaters"? kentuck Mar 2020 #52
Translation: Grasswire2 Mar 2020 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Mar 2020 #54
They have always wanted this RhodeIslandOne Mar 2020 #57
They don't need the ovens and Zyklon this time. Nature's little bug will do the work. HAB911 Mar 2020 #61

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
1. Hitler did some of that.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 09:23 PM
Mar 2020

Now, in this scenario the entire US Senate almost has to go, Rump and Pence as well.

They are old.

In reality it will depend on your wealth and connections...we know that


So as long as the GOP senators and prez and vp and the GOP people over that age who are rich go, then so be it.

but they wont

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
24. the stupid motherfucking local morn blowhard on the loudest radio station in NM had a "doctor"
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:17 PM
Mar 2020

from a RW think tank who explained to the a big part of the state while they're waiting for the traffic and weather and latest trumpvirus news that the death rate is greatly overblown because nearly all are old and are basically dying from preexisting conditions related to being old!

it sounds like that's a national meme being used to support the trump motherfucker

and this station depends on the univ of NM to keep broadcasting sports on it. stupid fucking UNM actually advertises on it during the limbaugh show! recruiting ads!

that's happening all over the country with at least 87 universities and many pro teams.

the GOP senate will turn on trump when dems finally pull their ear buds out their ass and recognize fox is not thte problem

bloom

(11,635 posts)
2. At the risk of being too dark
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 09:25 PM
Mar 2020

I would not put it past Republican leaders to figure that people in big cities (New York, San Francisco, Seattle) - many of those being Democrats, primarily, are also 'disposable. (So why bother having the Feds help, etc.)

Quite a few Right-wing pundits have been whipping up hate against Democrats for years. 25-30 years.

mmbrevo

(123 posts)
11. This is a very uncomfortable discussion to have but,
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 09:49 PM
Mar 2020

The older a person is, the more likely they are to support trump. So killing off old people particularly in battleground states, Fl for example, would be very bad for repubs. Am I missing something?
I dont think it's all that sinister. Yes, they think old folks are a drain on the system, but I think trump just wants the "sock rocket" to go back up.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
48. When you say
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:58 PM
Mar 2020
Am I missing something?
I don't think it's all that sinister.


you are talking about how they probably DON'T have a sinister plan because they need the old folks to live and vote for trump, right? You are not saying that their alleged plan of letting old folks die is not sinister...

I am a little weary at the moment, not sure if I am reading this right...

mmbrevo

(123 posts)
59. Yes
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 10:28 PM
Mar 2020

I think people dying, anybody dying, young or old doesn't matter to trump. It's all just collateral damage. Sorry, didn't mean to offend anybody.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
60. No apologies, necesary...
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 09:10 AM
Mar 2020

I was tired when I was reading the posts and I just wasn't sure what was what when you referred to sinister. Yes I think we all agree that trump doesn't care about anybody young or old.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. GOPers aren't going to kill the elderly until after the election. The elderly vote, and lean GOPer.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 09:28 PM
Mar 2020

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
6. Did you hear what that Texas buffoon Dan Patrick said ?
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 09:37 PM
Mar 2020

He said that the stores and shops and schools should re-open and that the "grandparents" should sacrifice themselves for their grandchildren. Further, he added that he's talked to hundreds of Texan grandparents and they all him that they would do this to save the economy.

AYFKM ??

Okay, Dan, we'll start with you.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
33. Yep, got my handy shotgun ready just for varmints like him
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:32 PM
Mar 2020

On the serious side. Can people pick and chose who gets it? Trump is old as shit and just as unhealthy.

Traildogbob

(8,726 posts)
46. He also said
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:56 PM
Mar 2020

People over 72 like him can care for themselves. Really, he has great insurance WE pay for. Socialism. He can also obviously get a test at the drop of a hat. Fuck him....and his grandkids.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
8. Basically the same dogma we heard from Spiro Agnew in the late 60s.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 09:42 PM
Mar 2020

It all boils down to saving corporations and the ultra-wealthy from paying taxes.

That still upsets us however, because we are the compassionate, caring humanists that believe in human rights and equality.

Same evil right-wing bullshit, different era......

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. The interesting thing is that many right-wing politicians are seniors.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 10:19 PM
Mar 2020

And I must say that a majority of them are not looking like they are in the best of health. I find it funny how they think that they are immune from this. They really do think they are the "chosen ones", don't they?

I honestly hope they all catch it and never recover.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
15. There are kids in critical condition do to covid, these fascist idiots not only refuse to understand
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 10:38 PM
Mar 2020

what a monster we are dealing with but they are too stupid to learn the history of pandemics that do not end well when ignorance takes hold.

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
20. Their attitude toward the kids
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:08 PM
Mar 2020

and young adults would be that they are inferior if they do not survive so the world is better off without them.

When I think about the lowest paid and least regarded members of society who are keeping us going, like grocery clerks, truckers, Amazon employees, and nurses, I think about the consequences of the Plague in Medieval times.

The peasants deserted their manor lord masters and demanded higher wages and more rights. The old feudal system cracked and began to fall. Not all at once, but the Plague was the catalyst. The elite were taunted with rhymes and slogans about the equality of disease and death.

We might see some parallels to this in our times.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
16. Not only is that evil, but it is factually wrong. 50% of Covid deaths are under age 70.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 10:45 PM
Mar 2020

80% of infections are people under age 65.

And we still don't know if once you've had Covid-19 you're immune, or if you will get sick again if exposed again.

Even if the elderly are sacrificed, mllions of old AND young will die. And with everyone sick and dying, the economy will crash regardless. So all the right wing miscreants will accomplish is giving us 2 million more graves.

DENVERPOPS

(8,814 posts)
21. Agreed Mis....but Eugenics sounds so much more benign than
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:09 PM
Mar 2020

Genocide..................

The Senior/Elderly Genocide is just another step up the ladder for them to destroy ones underneath them.

They figure just like you said that it gets rid of a whole segment of the population who are a drain on the system.

It would solve so many problems and multiple financial drains:

money for Social Security
money for Disabled
money for snap food stamps
money for medicare
money for anything other than politicians, the uber wealthy and corporations. Especially corporate tax cuts and corporate welfare.

This would be the SECOND Genocide in this nations history.....It's just too frikkin bad that the Native Americans didn't have a Border Patrol and ICE squad. This time it is Corona, last time it was smallpox in blankets......

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
27. The banality of evil.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:18 PM
Mar 2020

The likes of Trump and the GOP have no plan. Their only plan for the past 40 years is looting the treasury whenever they get into power and taking money from the poor and middle class and giving it to the rich. That is all. Trump is okay with killing the most vulnerable because he is incapable of coming up with a solution to both keep the economy stable AND flatten the curve. Fuck it. He'd rather allow millions to die than let on that he is so far out of his league and utterly clueless as to how to even start coming up with any solutions. His narcissism won't allow him to listen to experts because, after all, he knows more than everybody.

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
28. Tonight Glen Beck and Britt Hume are advocating that
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:20 PM
Mar 2020

They are claiming the old and infirm should sacrifice themselves for the sake of propping up the stock market for 401k’s belonging to the young. Evil fuckers.

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
40. Beck says 50. Hume just says grandparents
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:41 PM
Mar 2020

Apparently we’re supposed to take one for the team, in their warped views.

Dan

(3,551 posts)
49. I suspect that Beck's over 50.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:00 AM
Mar 2020

Well, for myself, I am willing to take one for the team.... right after Trump, Moscow Mitch, and the rest of the GOP Senators of senior age.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
31. Republicans don't just let you down, they let you die.
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:26 PM
Mar 2020

If you're not a campaign donor, they're willing to speed up your demise.

 

blakstoneranger

(333 posts)
41. MOST OF TRUMPS BASE FALL INTO ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES!!
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:44 PM
Mar 2020

But then, trump and bannon were the ones referring to trumps base as "deplorables". Except trump's base believes hillary clinton came up with it--wrong!

sagetea

(1,368 posts)
42. I think we've now
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:46 PM
Mar 2020

crossed over into the "Logan's Run" area of the dystopian novels. They WILL kill anyone who is not 'one' of them.


sage

Celerity

(43,333 posts)
44. Prince Philip - 'In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, to
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:48 PM
Mar 2020

contribute something to solving overpopulation.'

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/jun/21/quotes-by-prince-philip


Ironically he is still alive at 98, so this coronavirus cannot be him.


Prince Philip health fears: Duke suffers cruel attack as sickening claim goes worldwide

PRINCE PHILIP was the victim of a "crazy" rumour that trended worldwide last week, a royal commentator has said.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1259744/Prince-Philip-health-latest-update-Duke-of-Edinburgh-royal-family-news

jb5150

(1,178 posts)
45. A boss I had a few years ago ..
Tue Mar 24, 2020, 11:51 PM
Mar 2020

told me that he thought social security was nothing but welfare for old people.

tavernier

(12,382 posts)
50. I know several people who have it and they are all under 50
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:03 AM
Mar 2020

and not poor, disabled or infirm. Thankfully they have so far survived, but it was no “pleasure cruise” to quote Freddie.

mucifer

(23,537 posts)
51. Of course they are also cool with killing the medical professionals. The virus kills us
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:11 AM
Mar 2020

at a higher rate, too

Grasswire2

(13,569 posts)
53. Translation:
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 12:17 AM
Mar 2020


Translation: "No, you really do need a shower. You look dirty. Come along now. Leave your clothes and belongings in this pile. Men in one line, others over here. Got any gold teeth? Let go of your sister's hand now. Come along. There's soap, and warm water ahead! Your turn! Now!"

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