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a kennedy

(29,655 posts)
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:41 PM Mar 2020

How can his approval numbers be going up???

Here's an indisputable fact: President Donald Trump is as popular today as he has been since his first day in office.

In a new Gallup poll, 49% approve of the job Trump is doing as president while 45% disapprove, matching the highest his approval rating has ever been in Gallup surveys. A Monmouth University poll released on Monday showed Trump at 46% approval, again the best he has done in that poll in more than three years.


https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/25/politics/donald-trump-gallup-approval-polling/index.html

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How can his approval numbers be going up??? (Original Post) a kennedy Mar 2020 OP
Stimulus checks and propaganda. tman Mar 2020 #1
That's BRIBERY and propaganda to you! rocktivity Mar 2020 #10
The daily pressers seem to be working. Turbineguy Mar 2020 #2
I agree gratuitous Mar 2020 #4
People are scared and angry ibegurpard Mar 2020 #3
The story you linked does a pretty good job of explaining it HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #5
Hell if you wondering now, Just wait until bluestarone Mar 2020 #6
Proof that Marshall McLuhan was right. It doesn't matter how idiotic he is, it's being on TV every Cetacea Mar 2020 #7
Bush Was at 90% after 9/11, These Numbers SUCK during a national emergency Skraxx Mar 2020 #8
The Real Clear Politics Average has tightened rocktivity Mar 2020 #9
Realclear anything is rw owned and controlled. Don't hold your breath. defacto7 Mar 2020 #20
Despite its editorial, RCP is based on at least ten polls as opposed to one rocktivity Mar 2020 #32
Ok, well that's good to know. defacto7 Mar 2020 #37
This is a "rally around the flag event". Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #11
Very normal for a country in crisis. You rally around the leader karynnj Mar 2020 #12
This...unfortunately...Americans are just that dumb Ferrets are Cool Mar 2020 #27
I'm not buying it. smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #13
Landlines??? For real? ismnotwasm Mar 2020 #16
You are a liberal, I would assume. Or at least a Democrat. smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #21
Gallup is a shit poll .... LenaBaby61 Mar 2020 #14
Google is keeping his numbers Wellstone ruled Mar 2020 #15
Gallup has always been rw tainted. defacto7 Mar 2020 #17
Hacking? 2naSalit Mar 2020 #18
Things that don't make sense, usually don't. ooky Mar 2020 #19
Nate Silver puts it in perspective budkin Mar 2020 #22
For some perspective. 49% for a president "at war" is abysmal. LAS14 Mar 2020 #23
Thank you for this info. emmaverybo Mar 2020 #25
This has bothered me plenty... Newest Reality Mar 2020 #24
Wow .. cilla4progress Mar 2020 #31
Check yougov he is 45% marlakay Mar 2020 #26
Because Americans haven't started dying in massive numbers yet. CrispyQ Mar 2020 #28
Yup. The death toll should hit 1,000 today. It was just over John Fante Mar 2020 #30
Because most Americans are cilla4progress Mar 2020 #29
Yes, Newest Reality Mar 2020 #33
I saw this coming. It's like September 11th all over again. "Oh look, he Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2020 #34
Bush had 90% approval ratings after 9/11. John Fante Mar 2020 #38
People have it in their mind that everyone needs to work together including supporting the idiot. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #35
Don't worry. It won't last long. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #36
Charge for a "free" item? rasputin1952 Mar 2020 #39
Vlad's St Petersburg crew continues to do a thorough job. lpbk2713 Mar 2020 #40

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
10. That's BRIBERY and propaganda to you!
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:59 PM
Mar 2020

And his mentor Putin didn't bother with bribery.


rocktivity

Turbineguy

(37,320 posts)
2. The daily pressers seem to be working.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:44 PM
Mar 2020

Why would all these people be kissing trumps ass if it weren't so delicious?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. I agree
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:47 PM
Mar 2020

He's on the teevee every day, and the billion dollar advertising industry doesn't stay in business because advertising doesn't work. Trump's out there for his pep rallies daily, and low information voters see and hear his confident boasts and figure he's doing a good job. Luckily for Trump, the major media outlets still cover him live and in color, and graciously save any analysis or criticism of Trump's self-serving bragging for later when far fewer people are tuned in.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
3. People are scared and angry
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:46 PM
Mar 2020

And he's telling them what they want to hear. No one likes the bearer of bad news. In this age of decentralized info there is no way that people are ever going to be united again. They turn to the sources that confirm their biases. Anyone who thinks that presenting the general public with the truth and expecting them to do the right thing is utterly naive. You don't have to lie but you have to find a way to sell your brand.

bluestarone

(16,911 posts)
6. Hell if you wondering now, Just wait until
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:49 PM
Mar 2020

The OCTOBER stimulus checks. ( I have no doubt there will be another perfect timing one)

Cetacea

(7,367 posts)
7. Proof that Marshall McLuhan was right. It doesn't matter how idiotic he is, it's being on TV every
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 01:51 PM
Mar 2020

day that counts. "The medium is the message." (or, the medium is the massage)
He LOOKS presidential for once. The words he speaks aren't as important in this context.
Rick Scott used the same method during hurricanes and despite having an approval rating as low as 22 percent was able to get reelected (if you believe that Florida election outcomes are valid)

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
32. Despite its editorial, RCP is based on at least ten polls as opposed to one
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:19 PM
Mar 2020

that's why I consider it the lesser of two evils.




rocktivity

Turin_C3PO

(13,964 posts)
11. This is a "rally around the flag event".
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 02:01 PM
Mar 2020

It’s a miracle his approval rating isn’t higher. It will go back down as Americans realize what a shitty job he’s doing. Probably not lower than 40% though.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
12. Very normal for a country in crisis. You rally around the leader
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 02:02 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:00 PM - Edit history (1)

In 2001, Bush was clearly flustered the first few days after 911 AND he had ignored intelligence that might have led him to try to avoid a non state terrorist attack. When he spoke through a bull horn in NYC, it became iconic even though his EPA chief was lying about the quality of air. He was also praised for a speech advocating tolerance given a DC church. The media was 100 percent relieved when in those 2 instances he stepped up.

Bush had been not polling well before the attack and was at 90 percent a few weeks afterward. Trump's actions have been so chaotic and unhelpful that he SHOULD be lower than he was, but for now, many scared people would rather ignore the evidence that he is incompetent because they need and want a competent leader.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
13. I'm not buying it.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 02:07 PM
Mar 2020

I still think it's the way polls are conducted, which is mainly by landlines. Who mostly still has landlines? Conservatives. Most liberals and young people only have cell phones and don't answer calls when they don't recognize the numbers so they don't pick up the phone. They are oversampling right-wingers.

I would really like to take a look at their methodology, because I am not believing this bullshit. He is such a royal fuckup. There is no way his poll numbers could possibly be going up among normal, thinking, decent people.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
21. You are a liberal, I would assume. Or at least a Democrat.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 02:31 PM
Mar 2020

Did you read my post? I said, "Who mostly has landlines?" I am not talking about you. That is if you identify as a liberal/Democrat.

I would guarantee that most older conservatives in red states still have land lines. They do not adapt well to technological change. If you don't fit that demographic, this post is not about you.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
14. Gallup is a shit poll ....
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 02:09 PM
Mar 2020

That's how. And you KNOW Rasmussen is pretty much tRump's personal pollster.

IF you knew how to dig into the cross-tabs and read polling, you'd not be worried.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
15. Google is keeping his numbers
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 02:11 PM
Mar 2020

on the positive side. The Trump Campaign has bought millions of dollars of click bait ads on just about every web page know to man kind.

Every single one is a on line poll. And once you click it,it pumps the Algorithm.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
19. Things that don't make sense, usually don't.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 02:15 PM
Mar 2020

If one can interfere with elections, one can probably interfere with what polls show.

My unqualified opinion, I simply do not believe it and therefore will not lose any sleep over it.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
23. For some perspective. 49% for a president "at war" is abysmal.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 02:35 PM
Mar 2020

" In the wake of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, for example, President George W. Bush's approval rating soared into the high 80s and low 90s." (from the OP article)

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
24. This has bothered me plenty...
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 02:42 PM
Mar 2020

I think it may be something we can't easily grasp and is a problem with our culture in general, or at least a significant number of its members.

Perhaps a factor is that too many people are too superficial about what they read or hear and what's going on? That would be like the "consumer" who loves and eats junk food because it is sold with songs and catchphrases and looks, smells and tastes "good".

Perhaps, also, there is a level of emotional/mental development that is not being reached by some people today because they are encouraged to remain in an adolescent state of mind which encourages mythical thinking and impulsive consumption based on mood and emotions?

I imagine that if more people were like some of us and paying close, (yet painful) attention to who this Trump Con is and what he does, then the numbers would be far lower; perhaps the 30% we would expect from the base of fealty that needs a Father figure to comfort them in his big, fat lap.

There is more, but I think we have a multi-faceted problem and maybe I will bring up a few more, though though I think others here are onto this as well. It is calling out for attention as in red flashing lights an klaxons.

marlakay

(11,451 posts)
26. Check yougov he is 45%
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 02:46 PM
Mar 2020

I do their surveys and i swear they slant them more to right too so if he goes down there its a good thing.

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
28. Because Americans haven't started dying in massive numbers yet.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:09 PM
Mar 2020

I think too many Americans applied "American exceptionalism" to this issue and the Con's lack of a serious and urgent response didn't help. We are going to pay big time for the idea that America is immune from what happened in Italy or China. I fear for my country and what we are about to see. I hope with all of my being that I'm wrong, but the global numbers are grim.

https://infection2020.com

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
30. Yup. The death toll should hit 1,000 today. It was just over
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:16 PM
Mar 2020

300 a few days ago. And it's going to get way uglier.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
33. Yes,
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:20 PM
Mar 2020

That put what I said into a simple phrase that sums it up!

There has, oddly, been a creeping anti-intellectualism that pervades this country and, obviously, that's not good when information is used as a weapon.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,500 posts)
34. I saw this coming. It's like September 11th all over again. "Oh look, he
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:20 PM
Mar 2020

didn't rip off his shirt and flinged his shit all over the podium while wearing a "Napoleon hat! So he's doing a fantastic job!!". Such is the country we live in. The United States of Amnesia.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
38. Bush had 90% approval ratings after 9/11.
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:27 PM
Mar 2020

Trump's popularity (putting it mildly) isn't anywhere close to that, and his aggregate approval rating isn't close to 49% either. This is an outlier result from a pollster that has been very generous to Trump throughout his term.

rasputin1952

(83,130 posts)
39. Charge for a "free" item?
Wed Mar 25, 2020, 03:59 PM
Mar 2020

Virtually all of the meds in this country are produced under the FDA grants for R&D. Technically, and legally, taxpayers pay for the use of any medication that has been approved for human use.

The only use for the pharmaceutical dog and pony show is the use of their equipment, and that has been replicated and improved upon by the Feds, (mostly under money cashiered to defense).

You have to go back to the days of Jonas Salk to find a medical industry that was not owned by the taxpayer via grants for R&D. Salk gave away the medication that put the brakes on polio; can you imagine that happening today?

I could write a 1000 page book what and why the American public pays twice and often three times for a product. Nylon and its derivatives are petro-products paid for during WWII federal cash.

Money for nothing more than an inflated stock market and consumer prices.

We've paved the US's road to hell with dollars.

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