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Rick Wilson speaks for me. Again. (Original Post) catbyte Mar 2020 OP
Last time i checked Wilson gave us trump. Pillow talk Mar 2020 #1
Not so much Loki Liesmith Mar 2020 #4
more than me Pillow talk Mar 2020 #5
The GOP yes, Trump no. He's been a Never Trumper from the start. OnDoutside Mar 2020 #6
he has done nothing to influence the other party. zero Pillow talk Mar 2020 #7
What other party ? OnDoutside Mar 2020 #8
the opposition party! aka republicans Pillow talk Mar 2020 #9
He was a well connected Republican strategist for 30 years, OnDoutside Mar 2020 #10
you are mistaken imo. he has zero chance of taking down trump. only dems can do that Pillow talk Mar 2020 #11
Eh ? He's doing his bit, and specifically the Lincoln Project are targeting OnDoutside Mar 2020 #14
Again i disagree with your analysis. dems can defeat trump on their own. The caveat Pillow talk Mar 2020 #18
A narrow Presidential win maybe but you will not win the Senate OnDoutside Mar 2020 #20
no . trump has shown to some extent that PUTOS power has no limit. Pillow talk Mar 2020 #25
It would be a mistake to think any other president will get away with OnDoutside Mar 2020 #30
it would be a mistake to think they can't Pillow talk Mar 2020 #32
Apart from you, who else is thinking like that ? OnDoutside Mar 2020 #34
I've no idea. Pillow talk Mar 2020 #36
if you do not think Never Trumpers can play a potentially significant role in bringing Trump down Celerity Mar 2020 #23
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #27
Yep. These never trumpers like Wilson do play a role in helping us bring trump down. FM123 Mar 2020 #28
Also DownriverDem Mar 2020 #42
You make a mistake when you don't ally with people in a common cause. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #17
i would welcome the evidence Pillow talk Mar 2020 #19
Enjoy your stay. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #31
You're provocations is noted Pillow talk Mar 2020 #35
Welcome to DU, and get your facts straight. There are Never- Trumpers in this world... Hekate Mar 2020 #12
thank you. i have my history of the republican party straight. Pillow talk Mar 2020 #13
This is The Lincoln Project's latest ad. It's more effective than some DNC ads. catbyte Mar 2020 #24
i tried watching the first one and cannot stomach the willful & woeful ignorance. onetexan Mar 2020 #43
You didn't check closely enough. catbyte Mar 2020 #15
these same folks drill us dems on policy. They are not our friend Pillow talk Mar 2020 #21
You should broaden your thinking. We'd all be speaking German now if the Allies hadn't aligned with catbyte Mar 2020 #26
you can't be serious. there was a bit more to that Pillow talk Mar 2020 #29
Welcome to the Land of Ignore. Have a nice stay. catbyte Mar 2020 #38
Seconded. nt Wednesdays Mar 2020 #45
You're free to say and think what you want DonaldsRump Mar 2020 #37
Remember when Agent Orange justgamma Apr 2020 #48
I read through all of your subsequent remarks and responses below. IndianaDave Mar 2020 #41
He really has a way with words. tanyev Mar 2020 #2
Not only does he speak for me, FM123 Mar 2020 #3
I'm lucky, Corgigal Mar 2020 #16
Not So Fast Catman33 Mar 2020 #22
Again, do you disagree with his statement in the OP? Wednesdays Mar 2020 #46
Nope SBoy Mar 2020 #33
Love his tweets .... CatMor Mar 2020 #39
Yup, tune the MF out. Joinfortmill Mar 2020 #40
Rick never speaks for me because he's usually just repeating... JHB Mar 2020 #44
But Munchausen syndrome by proxy FITS Fuckwit von [ Clownface Munchausen ]! Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2020 #47

OnDoutside

(19,949 posts)
10. He was a well connected Republican strategist for 30 years,
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 06:26 PM
Mar 2020

always opposed Trump, and is a founding member of the Lincoln project which is dedicated to bringing Trump down. He'll never be a Democrat, but he's very much on the same side as the Democrats in wanting to take Trump down, while stating that the GOP must die.

That's good enough.

OnDoutside

(19,949 posts)
14. Eh ? He's doing his bit, and specifically the Lincoln Project are targeting
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 06:36 PM
Mar 2020

Key Swing states with hard hitting ads, ads which are a particular skill of Wilson's. You should check out the devastating ad he did against Roy Moore, as an example. Democrats alone can't beat Trump, it's going to take a broad coalition of Dems, Independents and moderate Republicans. It would be short sighted to believe otherwise.

 

Pillow talk

(265 posts)
18. Again i disagree with your analysis. dems can defeat trump on their own. The caveat
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 06:39 PM
Mar 2020

is independents not republicans.

OnDoutside

(19,949 posts)
20. A narrow Presidential win maybe but you will not win the Senate
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 06:46 PM
Mar 2020

which means gridlock in Washington yet again. There's a chance to win all three branches while giving the Republicans an almighty beating in November. Thankfully the Democratic primary voters seem to believe the same strategy, rather than polarising politics.

OnDoutside

(19,949 posts)
30. It would be a mistake to think any other president will get away with
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 06:59 PM
Mar 2020

What Trump has gotten away with, so far. Apart from appointing shit judges, he has achieved little. If you think that's the way a Democratic president should behave, good luck with that.

Celerity

(43,246 posts)
23. if you do not think Never Trumpers can play a potentially significant role in bringing Trump down
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 06:49 PM
Mar 2020

then what is you feeling on Stein and the greenies impact on 2016?

To be logically consistent, you surely must discount any notion of a negative impact emanating from Jill the Putin shill on the outcome.

welcome to DU btw

Response to Celerity (Reply #23)

DownriverDem

(6,226 posts)
42. Also
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 07:56 PM
Mar 2020

relatively sane folks too. I agree about Rick Wilson and trump. He's been at it from the begging. The Lincoln Project is viable & focused.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,986 posts)
17. You make a mistake when you don't ally with people in a common cause.
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 06:38 PM
Mar 2020

You are making that mistake with Wilson.

You are absolutely wrong to think that he has no effect against tRump.

Hekate

(90,616 posts)
12. Welcome to DU, and get your facts straight. There are Never- Trumpers in this world...
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 06:30 PM
Mar 2020

...who are now and have been for years EX-Republicans. They speak against Trump now, and spoke against him when he was running in 2015-16.

You don't have to like their personal political history, but never doubt their patriotism or well-founded disgust at Trump and Trumpists.

catbyte

(34,358 posts)
24. This is The Lincoln Project's latest ad. It's more effective than some DNC ads.
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 06:50 PM
Mar 2020

Remember what Winston Churchill said in 1941 about Josef Stalin: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."



And here are a couple other good ones:



catbyte

(34,358 posts)
15. You didn't check closely enough.
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 06:37 PM
Mar 2020

He may be a republican, but he's been a fervent Never Trumper since that thing rode down that escalator, even before.

catbyte

(34,358 posts)
26. You should broaden your thinking. We'd all be speaking German now if the Allies hadn't aligned with
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 06:55 PM
Mar 2020

Stalin from 1941 to 1945.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
37. You're free to say and think what you want
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 07:07 PM
Mar 2020

But I think your ideas make no sense. There are TONS of Republicans that are appalled at Trump and his utter incompetency, particularly with handling the Trump Virus. I am calling it that in the US to remember the "man" who singlehandedly is responsible for spreading it.

I cannot understand why you think, for example, the Lincoln Project is not legitimate. Do you think the ads posted by another DUer are subliminal ads telling people to actually vote for Trump? They are devastating pieces.

There are still many people who were formerly Republicans who were decent folks, and I have worked and been friends with many people. So many of them are disgusted with Trump, and this was prior to The Trump Virus.

You can keep on saying what you're saying, but your posts are growing increasingly illogical.

Flame away if you wish.

justgamma

(3,665 posts)
48. Remember when Agent Orange
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 07:46 PM
Apr 2020

used to call Hannity every night. What did they call their conversations? Very interesting.

IndianaDave

(612 posts)
41. I read through all of your subsequent remarks and responses below.
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 07:27 PM
Mar 2020

I have some questions. Do you disagree with what Rick Wilson tweeted? Or do you simply like to argue and distract from the main point of the post? Whether Rick is a Republican, an immigrant, or a Russian troll, I absolutely agree with what he wrote. Do you? What's your purpose?

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
16. I'm lucky,
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 06:38 PM
Mar 2020

I guess. Our Gov Andy does his daily briefing at 5 pm and our local NBC doesn’t break away.

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
39. Love his tweets ....
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 07:14 PM
Mar 2020

I'll take anyone who consistently speaks against trump.
Wilson does it very effectively.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
44. Rick never speaks for me because he's usually just repeating...
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 08:05 PM
Mar 2020

... some version of what I've been saying for the last three decades about Republicans while he was diligently chumming the water to reshape his party into what it is today.

Me and other liberals. Here he's almost quoting Jon Stewart.

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