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Bucky

(53,986 posts)
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 12:57 AM Mar 2020

President Trump is as popular as he's ever been right now

PLEASE DON'T SHOOT THE MESSENGER!

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/25/politics/donald-trump-gallup-approval-polling/index.html

President Trump is as popular as he's ever been right now

Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large
Updated 12:18 PM EDT, Wed March 25, 2020


(CNN) - Here's an indisputable fact: President Donald Trump is as popular today as he has been since his first day in office.

In a new Gallup poll, 49% approve of the job Trump is doing as president while 45% disapprove, matching the highest his approval rating has ever been in Gallup surveys. A Monmouth University poll released on Monday showed Trump at 46% approval, again the best he has done in that poll in more than three years.

In the Gallup poll, 60% of Americans approve of the job Trump is doing in handling the crisis while 38% disapprove of how he has done. Six in 10 independents approve of how Trump has done on the coronavirus as do more than 1 in 4 (27%) of Democrats. In the Monmouth poll, 50% say Trump has done a good job with coronavirus while 45% said he has done a bad job.


We've got our work cut out for us. I know this is mostly rally round the flag driving his numbers. But Trump has so benefited from this crisis, and I don't just mean financially, that I'm certain there will be more crises in September and October.

It could be Venezuela or it could be something with China, given the way they are hiding their coronavirus numbers. But the bastard thrives on chaos. And he's finally figured out a formula for selling it.

We're all information warriors now. We need to persuade friends in person and online. We need to convincingly document now and through the fall the errors, the corruption, and the long-term harm coming from Trump.

After the war of the coronavirus, we have a bigger war on ignorance and bigotry to fight. And more importantly, we have to fight the war against the apathy and demoralization that Republicans are depending on to keep control of government.
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President Trump is as popular as he's ever been right now (Original Post) Bucky Mar 2020 OP
I heard leprechauns and unicorns are also more popular than ever Blue Owl Mar 2020 #1
Thoughts and predators Bucky Mar 2020 #3
Unbelievable. Just change the name of the NoMoreRepugs Mar 2020 #2
See ya in 2 weeks! Brainfodder Mar 2020 #4
I help people wake up Bucky Mar 2020 #15
I'm sorry but I do not believe that. onecaliberal Mar 2020 #5
No, Dunning-Kruger needs to be their thing, not ours Bucky Mar 2020 #16
I don't think those are the facts. onecaliberal Mar 2020 #20
Wait until grandma dies... Bluesaph Mar 2020 #6
Dems failure to counter his daily briefings radius777 Mar 2020 #7
agree Meowmee Mar 2020 #9
We need more Dems calling him out daily but they're like crickets n/t OhioChick Mar 2020 #14
i agree with you catsudon Mar 2020 #18
Phooey. Gallup always polls high for him, because... Grasswire2 Mar 2020 #8
Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #12
I don't believe it bdamomma Mar 2020 #29
Lol, Gallup again DarthDem Mar 2020 #10
That's abysmal Bush 2 was at 90% uponit7771 Mar 2020 #11
Sorry folks Cosmocat Mar 2020 #13
My Interpretation Differs ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #17
3 things Cosmocat Mar 2020 #19
Look At Charts In Your Link ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #24
As I said, a long time to go, but if the election were today Cosmocat Mar 2020 #25
No its not, please put in proper context ... this is horrible numbers for crisis time uponit7771 Mar 2020 #22
People are rallying around the flag and making the best of what they have Azathoth Mar 2020 #21
+1, ... Carter and Iran crisis uponit7771 Mar 2020 #23
Ummm Bullshit. gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #26
Although the lock downs have hit and NYC is overwhelmed, and yes too many have died, the full emmaverybo Mar 2020 #27
I'd just assume it's true and fight even harder to GET OUT THE VOTE! OneBro Mar 2020 #28
No, Trump is not going to suddenly become FDR Gothmog Mar 2020 #30

NoMoreRepugs

(9,400 posts)
2. Unbelievable. Just change the name of the
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:01 AM
Mar 2020

country to Dumbfuckistan and be done with it. Damn it, I’m going to have a nightmare about this.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
4. See ya in 2 weeks!
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:10 AM
Mar 2020

I am implying that in just 2 weeks, the # of dead is going to be so uncomfortably high, that POLLS....

It's a shame that they can't be shoved back up the ass of their creators?

Yeah that fucking level of discomfort is on the way, confused?

See Italy....




Bucky

(53,986 posts)
16. No, Dunning-Kruger needs to be their thing, not ours
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:27 AM
Mar 2020

We have to keep on believing in facts, even the ones we don't like.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
7. Dems failure to counter his daily briefings
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:50 AM
Mar 2020

with our own (possibly by Pelosi and Schumer) to counter his lies is what is killing us. Trump fell asleep at the wheel and gave the virus a two month head start, yet we don't hear that called out enough.

If all people see is Trump everyday on TV, they think he's 'doing something' while we disappear into the background.

And the public won't give us credit for the stimulus, even though it's a Dem/left/FDR type of action, because our national leaders aren't out there enough putting their face on it. Trump will take all the credit as a 'win' for himself.

Cuomo has been great but he's a state official; we need the national party speaking with a strong voice on a daily basis.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
9. agree
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:57 AM
Mar 2020

Stop showing his crazy briefings, he is lying, ranting about himself and how he is attacked and endangering people with crazy medical advice etc. Most of the time he says nothing about the pandemic and it is so obvious he is a wacko nutcase who doesn't give a damn about anyone but himself and his money.

But apparently a lot of people are so fucked up in this country they don't get it???? WTF Dems need to do their own press meetings about what is really happening. There has to be a way to stop this lunatic train wreck and save more people.

catsudon

(839 posts)
18. i agree with you
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:00 AM
Mar 2020

and not just tv...... every day, new presser, everyday #1 trending on youtube for few hours....

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
8. Phooey. Gallup always polls high for him, because...
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 01:56 AM
Mar 2020

...they call land lines.

It's much more appropriate to look at 538's aggregate of polls, where you will see that he is underwater on most.

[link:https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/|



average of the polls shows 50.5 disapprove, 43.5 approve.


Then click on "more polls" and see lots more in the same


bdamomma

(63,810 posts)
29. I don't believe it
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 05:47 PM
Mar 2020

either. This is total BS. He will be loosing his base when they die, but they are willing to die for their cult leader.

DarthDem

(5,255 posts)
10. Lol, Gallup again
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 05:56 AM
Mar 2020

So here we have another OP regurgitating a piece by the inept Chris Cillizza (who did everything he could to write off Joe Biden after every single Democratic debate, and was wrong every time) regurgitating the same poll by long-discredited Gallup. Wonder why some people want to keep this narrative going?

ProfessorGAC

(64,953 posts)
17. My Interpretation Differs
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 07:53 AM
Mar 2020

In looking at all those tables & charts, his net approval is worse than all but Nixon. He's further underwater (approve / disapprove) than everyone back to DDE, except tricky Dick. And, we're in the middle of an active crisis.
I don't think this is a "thing". If he were doing anything close to a good job, he'd be like Carter in the early stages of Iran Hostage crisis.

Cosmocat

(14,560 posts)
19. 3 things
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 08:18 AM
Mar 2020

1) Nixon was a POS and Watergate had broken BEFORE he went up for re-election, and he won by a massive landslide, before his approval fell off.

2) Ws popularity started cratering almost from the day he took office, there was rapidly building buyers remorse until 9-11, and then he pushed us into the Iraq, which was an unmitigated disaster, but Rs rallied around him to get him reelected and the country found reason to do so, and then pretty much abandoned him afterwards.

To these two points - Rs will say and do ANYTHING to get their POS Rs re-elected (funny that they jumped ship on Ws dad for the mortal sin of actually raising taxes) AND the country indulges them most times.

LONG time to go, but right now what we are seeing in a pattern that we have before, just enough for W and a LOT for Nixon, giving him a pass to get him reelected.

3) This is 2020. The country has been effectively partitioned into three clumps. Their hate clump, our exasperated reality based clump, and the dumb ass small margin "in the middle" that breaks to the hate clump more often than not.

This historical view of president's popularity is null and void.

The margins he is at now are the margins he basically won election with in the first place.

That is all it takes, where he is right now, then them ginning up whatever bullshit they can use to put stink in Joe - that is what they did with Hillary, Kerry, Gore ...



ProfessorGAC

(64,953 posts)
24. Look At Charts In Your Link
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 12:34 PM
Mar 2020

I'm comparing the overall trend for 388 days. The 538 chart has 388 days, YTD, 1 year and 5 years.
There's also an option to look at net approval.
Applies to points 1&2.
As to 3, I think you underestimate the stratification of the electorate in the late 60s & 70s.
Is the culture more fractured? Yes. Substantially more than the Vietnam War period. Less so, I think.

Cosmocat

(14,560 posts)
25. As I said, a long time to go, but if the election were today
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 04:07 PM
Mar 2020

it would be a coin flip, and that does not even have the full on months of slandering Biden with all of his hundreds of millions of dollars he has stored up to do it.

This how we got him in the first place.

We have a pretty good shot if his approval is pushing 40, but once it gets to 45% or so with the current electoral map anything can happen.

Social stratification or whatever, republicans have spent the entirety of my life gaming the system to win at 50% or less, and this guy has done absolutely nothing other than run base campaigns, with the slander of our candidate meant to suppress our turnout and get the would be "moderates" to flake off of our candidate.

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
21. People are rallying around the flag and making the best of what they have
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:17 AM
Mar 2020

It's a known phenomenon during the initial phases of national crisies.

A better metric is to compare his approval with Dubya's after 9/11 or FDR's after Pearl Harbor.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
27. Although the lock downs have hit and NYC is overwhelmed, and yes too many have died, the full
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 04:14 PM
Mar 2020

and wide-spread effects have not yet settled in while fear and wishful thinking drives those who believed in Trump to embrace his “leadership” still or perhaps more.

I believe this will change. People also are tuning out his earlier minimizations and not all that will be said and written about his reckless negligence has been yet.

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
28. I'd just assume it's true and fight even harder to GET OUT THE VOTE!
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 05:42 PM
Mar 2020

For those who claim the poll is inaccurate or biased on whatever other response suggesting all is well, I continue to ask what is it that you have seen among Trump supporters that suggests they have suddenly seen the light and now care about anything other than themselves and Trump.

Gothmog

(145,046 posts)
30. No, Trump is not going to suddenly become FDR
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:40 PM
Mar 2020

Why I am not concerned about trump's meager polling bounce




First, let’s note that this increase in Trump’s approval is relatively small, given that we’re in the midst of one of the most monumental crises in American history.

In such extraordinary circumstances, the president’s approval would normally be shooting up. At times like these, Americans are looking for comfort. They want to believe that the president and the government are in control.

When Lyndon B. Johnson took over after John F. Kennedy’s assassination, his approval rating was 78 percent, even though he hadn’t done anything yet. Likewise, Gerald Ford had a 71 percent approval upon taking office during Watergate; it didn’t fall until he pardoned Richard M. Nixon. (We’re using Gallup’s historical data.)….

And after 9/11, George W. Bush’s approval soared to 90 percent. This is the historical pattern: In times of crisis, the president’s approval will go up almost regardless of whether he’s doing a good job or not.

So if in the midst of a public health nightmare and a horrific looming recession, Trump’s approval goes up by a few points, it’s not exactly a ringing endorsement of his presidency.

Improvements in Trump’s approval will likely remain relatively constrained compared to those historical standards, because as everyone knows, we’re in a period of intense polarization. There are fewer so-called “real” independents (who don’t actually lean to one party), and nearly all those who do associate with a party will never give thumbs up to a presidential candidate from the other party.....

What’s more, built-in perceptions of Trump will remain. As Aaron Blake notes, the new Post/ABC poll showing Trump’s approval rising also finds a large majority — 58 percent — think Trump reacted too slowly to the crisis. If things go seriously south, then that built-in sense that Trump botched the early response could compound public blame going forward, particularly since he’ll likely keep up with the depraved public spectacles.
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