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For those of you who think testing all counties is a brainless idea. (Original Post) LAS14 Mar 2020 OP
Anyone who thinks mass testing is brainless doesn't do reality well. SK, HK, China, Sinapore and uponit7771 Mar 2020 #1
This. nt Ferrets are Cool Mar 2020 #3
After this is all said and done Shermann Mar 2020 #2
It should be COUNTRY-WIDE testing Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2020 #4
Near universal testing is a requirement going forward... Wounded Bear Mar 2020 #5
There is a significant difference between what is theoretically ideal and what it is possible to do Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #6

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
1. Anyone who thinks mass testing is brainless doesn't do reality well. SK, HK, China, Sinapore and
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:42 AM
Mar 2020

... Germany all had as much unrestricted testing as possible and don't lead the world in cases like we do.

People aren't paying attention

Wounded Bear

(58,574 posts)
5. Near universal testing is a requirement going forward...
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:57 AM
Mar 2020

it's the only rational thing to do to gather the proper data to make sane decisions.

Without mass testing, no decision will be well-informed.

That includes antibody testing when that comes fully on line.

Ms. Toad

(33,976 posts)
6. There is a significant difference between what is theoretically ideal and what it is possible to do
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 12:16 PM
Mar 2020

Obviously, testing (including presumed negative individuals) is the right idea. We need to know the reality of this virus. But we don't even have the capacity to test those who have symptoms and who almost certainly have COVID 19. We are treating them as if they have COVID 19 because we can't test them to determine if they actually do.

What is suggested in the paper is not an intermitten release before we have universal testing - but a process for subsequent waves in which thorough testing is used to govern just-in-time new shut downs of geographic areas in which the need for hospitalization will be exceeded if a lock-down is not imposed.

A refined intermitten lockdown (being proposed AFTER the large lockdown, not instead of it) is only possible if (1) universal testing is possible, (2) universal testing is implemented - and not hampered by head-in-the-sand (we only need to test those with symptoms); lack of insurance; refusal to comply with even the bare minimum of taking your temperature before you enter a nursing home (a postal worker in my community; and (3) very diligent test-based monitoring - and instant compliance with local lock-down orders (because delaying them would mean overshooting the hospital capacity), (4) the lockdown is by logical geographic region (in Ohio, for example - Cuyahoga-Stark-Summit would need to be treated as one unit Cuyahoga residents mostly stick in Cuyahoga; Summit travels north to Cuyahoga and south to Stark; Stark mostly stays in Stark, with some travel to Summit), and (5) we know enough about the disease to create effective models (we are nowhere near that yet).



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