WHAT THE FUCK: Whitmer said this morning on @WWJ950 that vendors "are now being told not to send...

[demmiblue]

@GovWhitmer said this morning on @WWJ950 that vendors "are now being told not to send stuff here to Michigan. It's really concerning. I reached out to the White House last night, ironically at the same time" he was on @FoxNews bashing her.

"We need help..."

Link to tweet

[dalton99a]

1. Kick

[jpak]

2. Trump needs MI to win reelection yes?

What a dumbass

[BComplex]

3. Then the governor needs to let Michiganers know every minute that it's trump that

is sentencing their loved ones to death.

[uponit7771]

12. +1, it should go out mass in radio and Television and often

[BComplex]

16. Indeed. And ads should run during the run up to the election.

Make sure that all the states where trump is withholding run the ads letting people know.

[notinkansas]

97. And also publicize the names of the vendors

who are complying with this directive.

[calimary]

54. Yep. Get those commercials ready to go.

If indeed that’s not already happening.

[jimfields33]

30. The governor needs a press conference immediately

Show how many ventilators she has state wide. Show how manybin use now. And show realistic number needed in future. Give a number needed. Having a twitter showdown won’t work. Get facts together and air them to the American people.

[johnthewoodworker]

37. None of this will matter to the republican base. Any damage or loss of life will be blamed on

the uppity, democratic woman who had the audacity to criticize the dear leader and endanger her state. Republicans love the cat grabbers coronavirus response, according to polling. The only way the cat grabber loses the base is by embracing diversity.

[lagomorph777]

49. Why do we keep worrying about the Russiapublican base? Of course they're immoveable.

Hence the definition of "base." or "idiot."

But we do need to motivate sane people to do whatever it takes to eliminate the Russiapublican scourge. That's why it matters.

[klook]

62. +1 brazillion. (nt)

[LenaBaby61]

88. Why do we keep worrying about the Russiapublican base?

Agreed.

Double Fuck Them!!

[58Sunliner]

67. Republicans are 32% of voters. What's 49% of 32%?

[JHB]

84. Look, we can't reach the zombie horde, but the "neither" crowd...

...you know, the ones who voted for Johnson in 2016 because they refused to vote for "that woman", can be influenced to decide Trump needs to go instead of falling in line like usual.

[luvtheGWN]

80. She's been having daily morning messaging

along with the head of MI public health.

Detroit has far more cases than all its hospitals can handle, and the situation across the state (well, maybe not the UP) is desperate. She has been critical of the feds and the President -- as she has every right to be -- but she's a "nasty" woman in tRump's mind so he's punishing her.

[jimfields33]

91. I'm glad but nobody outside of Michigan knows this

[luvtheGWN]

101. I'm next door in Ontario

but my cable company includes all US networks, so I've watched some of her messaging on the local Detroit stations.

She does an excellent job speaking to the public, but I hear the desperation in her voice, as well as anger and frustration at times.

Of course Trump hates her, and not just because she's a woman but because she doesn't hesitate to talk about what her state needs, and what the feds are not providing.

[jimfields33]

110. He's atrocious

I’m glad she’s making these statements. I really like her.

[DENVERPOPS]

77. He and any other dem governors being screwed with

should be emulating Cuomo and 24/7 be bashing on Trump/Republicans.......

[jimfields33]

94. He's treating Florida and Texas Governors as coronavirus gods

I guess being in Florida I should be happy but not when I see how ny, ca and mi are treated.

[DENVERPOPS]

105. Look at the ignorance displayed by the people in Louisiana

After witnessing the lack of ANY federal assistance in the aftermath of Katrina, it is crazy that they think that Trump's Republicans have their backs if anything develops.

It's hysterical watching all the religious congregations down there continuing to stuff their congregation in tight quarters for Sunday services......ESPECIALLY WHILE THEY ARE WATCHING WHAT IS HAPPENING IN NEW ORLEANS AFTER ALLOWING MARDI GRAS.

There are stupid people, and then there are: REALLY REALY STUPID PEOPLE......

I'm gonna join the Dems that are saying: go for it. hasten your own demise, less Repub voters for us to contend with......

[Separation]

107. Thankfully it seems here in Ca

Our Governor is not waiting on trump for help. He seems to be ahead of the curve so far. Not only that but I dont think trump wants to piss off where the rest of the country gets the majority of their food.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

126. Oh...she is that's why trump hates her...

Playing that he can’t remember who she is...sick man
That’s my Gov. she reminds us all the time who made this debacle.

[exboyfil]

39. He only needs one of the three firewall states

I think the fix is in in Wisconsin.

[58Sunliner]

4. No words, just rage. Maybe we should call the manufacturers. Is that why he invoked the act?

So he could just fuck with people.

[johnthewoodworker]

47. This guy from Wisconsin agrees.

[usaf-vet]

70. So does this guy from Wisconsin.The retired Veteran living with a retired healthcare provider.

Making the state fend for themselves gives him plausible deniability.

It wasn't me it was the governors that screwed up.

Trump buys money wrenches by the dump truckload. And he uses them every chance he gets.

[hlthe2b]

5. Ok, I'm done. I'm sorry Mom & Dad and everyone who taught me not to say this, but...

God,Goddess, if you exist, TAKE HIM NOW! He's killing us.

[Freethinker65]

6. Guess Trump's polling numbers are really behind in the Great Lake's State?

If true, Whitmer needs to threaten to call the name of those venders agreeing to Trump's demand out. Name names.

[Delmette2.0]

35. Yes, use his tactics against him, don't just threaten.

He has declared a war against the citizens of this country.

And name the vendors and distributors who are going along with this bullshit.

[Lonestarblue]

41. Absolutely agree!

And why isn’t the media reporting Trump’s tactics in denying care every single minute of the day?

[NCDem47]

7. Looks like Trump is writing off Michigan for eveything

Makes me wonder what diabolical shennanigans they are implementing to offset that for the November election.

[BComplex]

17. Looks like Putin told him they have the central processors hacked for the election.

He'll be taking some states because they don't have secure voting equipment.

on edit: Putin, I'm sure, has clued him in on which states' voting equipment is not secure, or for which they already have an in.

[2naSalit]

31. +1 if we actually get there.

[BComplex]

69. That's the scariest part, ey?

I don't put anything past this psychopath in the oval office.

[2naSalit]

76. That's the survival plan I'm on. ...nt

[uponit7771]

108. +1

[patphil]

23. November election?

I think the plan is to sow chaos, and reap a national state of emergency, followed by martial law, and the suspension of elections.
Yeah, probably not gonna happen, but it's a prime fantasy in the fevered brain of Trump.
The states need to band together to defend themselves from what's looking more and more like deliberate Federal mismanagement.

Remember, chaos is Trump's favorite management style.
Divide and conquer.

[2naSalit]

33. I think that's one of the silver linings in the pandemic...

his evil is exposed for all to see and the Governors know they can over-ride a lot of his shit and I think this will unite them in fighting him. It's not like they aren't trying to work through this together, they are.

[Turin_C3PO]

71. Yeah, he can't do that.

Congress controls the Election Day and individual states hold their elections. He has absolutely zero say in that matter.

[jmowreader]

74. The word is "malfeasance"

You could come up with a strong case that anyone who dies because of Trump’s malfeasance was in fact murdered by Individual 1.

I want that man to fall from grace so damn hard, the game of Contract Bridge quits calling its wild cards “trump cards.” I want his name erased from every building it’s on. I want huge bonfires of Trump flags and MAGA hats going up in smoke. And I want the bastard to be portrayed in the history books with the same love and adoration Joseph Kony gets. And after that happens, I want the Rucker to rot in prison.

[silverweb]

86. A nice addition...

A nice addition to your wishes for Donny's "retirement" might also include locked-in syndrome.

It would be an entirely appropriate sentence, dontcha think?

[jmowreader]

89. With only one proviso

He would have to be "locked in" to a $220,000 three-bedroom single-story home in a working-class neighborhood, with Kenmore appliances, beige carpeting and white-painted walls. And ya know what? I think he should be able to drive himself in a Ford Taurus to a good job in a warehouse, packing boxes and shipping them out.

Sentencing the man to become an ordinary American would be the worst punishment he could ever face.

[silverweb]

90. Not the same "locked-in syndrome."

With the medical condition I'm talking about, he wouldn't be driving anywhere.

Here's the scenario: He's in prison and has a stroke. The paralysis is so complete that only his eyes have vertical movement and he can blink. He can't speak and can't move anything else, but he's fully conscious and aware, can hear, see, and feel. There's no Twitter and no way to communicate except by learning to blink in response to questions. He will live, in this condition in the prison hospital, to be a very old man.

Like that better?

[jmowreader]

93. That could be interesting

[silverweb]

95. Right?

Fully appropriate, I think.

[Captain Zero]

104. but that kind of stroke will get his lungs and heart bye bye

nt

[Laelth]

8. This just seems bizarre.

Is there any further verification of this claim? I am skeptical. Even Trump can’t be this clueless.



-Laelth

[AllyCat]

24. Yes he can. But it would be good to have another source.

[notinkansas]

99. Don't understand.

The governor's own words are not a reliable source?

[AllyCat]

123. Don't doubt her. Thought maybe another source wasn't a bad thing.

Especially a list of the crappy companies that decided to divert supplies after honest negotiations.

[BComplex]

120. Trump said it himself on his presser.

He said there were governors that were going to have a really hard time because they weren't "grateful enough".

[AllyCat]

122. Well, there it is, eh?

[TryLogic]

27. Maybe not clueless. Maybe if he can damage the governor, he can get more Republican votes in MI.

Not sure he is clueless, this time. I am sure he is always self serving with whatever level of cruelness he feels necessary.

Yes he is a moron, but he also specializes in making war (cruelty) against anyone who is not loyal to him. He is one of the most evil persons I have ever seen.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

68. It's that Evilness that makes him so despicable.

I’m sure I’m not alone when I say that I can’t express my disgust for him LOUDLY enough to make me feel any better!

[Cozmo]

48. MA Governor is saying the same thing

His state had equipment on order and the order went bye-bye when the federal government out bid the state. Sad to say, but this is who we are right now. Fuck 'em

[MerryBlooms]

9. This should be breaking news on every channel. omg

[bluescribbler]

10. Because she won't kiss his enormous ass

He is making her people pay, perhaps with their lives. The very definition of a narcissistic sociopath,

[Raven123]

11. Time to get MI's AG involved.

[spanone]

13. That is how vindictive this fuckstick in the WH is...on a daily basis.

[librechik]

14. What fun the Fuhrer must be having, cursing, teasing, lying and holding out on his "enemies"

Somebody please remove Captain Queeg.

[crickets]

66. +1

[NoMoreRepugs]

15. RUMP is going to attempt to punish all who will not bend the knee.

[iluvtennis]

18. This is UNACCEPTABLE. trump is an evil cretin. If you don't kiss his ass, you get no support. nt

[cilla4progress]

19. This explains his hold on people, Brix, etc..?

Complete vindictive revenge?

[Ilsa]

20. The vendors should ignore him and do the right thing.

They don't work for him.

If I could, I'd hijack the machines for them.

[dumbcat]

40. What is the right thing?

How should vendors allocate their output if they have more orders than they can supply?

First in, first out?

By who is willing to pay the most? Auction?

By geographical area?

By social/demographic factors?

And don't say "need", who determines "need"?

How would you ration items in limited supply?

[Ilsa]

45. Rationing is probably the only

ethical choice to make. Auctioning certainly isn't the most ethical. Deciding by demographic data isn't, nor is geographical.

I didn't think that deciding against selling to the highest bidder was a difficult choice on DU.

[dumbcat]

83. Rationing by what criteria?

What do you base the rationing on? That is the whole question.

[Ilsa]

100. They'll have to come up with something other than auctioning.

Such as fulfilling only part of all the orders they currently have. There should be a standing policy already through FEMA or another agency to prevent gouging and address current and future needs. Are you proposing they outbid each other?

[dumbcat]

111. No, I'm proposing that you

don't have an ethical rationing criterion to offer. Which goes back to my original question to you, What is the "right thing?" It's not as easy as it looks. Yet, someone has to make a decision.

[Ilsa]

115. Okay, what's your idea of what to do?

The only thing you've done is scratch irrelevant retorts.

FEMA should have policies in place for determining the right thing to do. I bet it doesn't include price-gouging.

[dumbcat]

117. I don't have one, not my job

And I don't criticize folks and say they're not doing the right thing when I don't know what that right thing is.

I'm sure FEMA does have policies in place for determining what (they think) is the right thing to do. We probably think they are bad policies. That was my point. It depends on your priorities. Ours are good, theirs are bad.

[Ilsa]

121. Why didn't you just say that in the first place

instead of beating around the bush? There's nothing wrong with being more direct with your opinion if you truly value it instead of harping about other people's opinions.
Enough already.

[exboyfil]

46. The governor needs to drill down to that decision point

As well as name names. I think she should also use more precise language than stuff. That sounds unprofessional.

What did the pandemic response plan say about allocating scarce resources. This is mobilization planning. It requires a defense logistics mindset.

Most importantly it requires coordination from the top without partisan considerations. That point must be emphasized.

[58Sunliner]

58. A nice bunch of herrings.

First in, first out?-No

By who is willing to pay the most? Auction? No

By geographical area? No

By social/demographic factors? Are we referring to population centers? Hotspots-Yes.

And don't say "need", who determines "need"? N/A

How would you ration items in limited supply?-See above in bold.

It just is not that complicated. You are asking some pretty irrelevant questions, IMO.

Do they have the personnel to manage care?
Should rich people be able to buy one for private use?-no.

[PatSeg]

57. Perhaps he is using

the Defense Production Act. He won't use it to force companies to produce life saving equipment, but he might be using it to limit who the vendors can sell their equipment to. In other words, he is using his presidential powers for political payback.

[Ilsa]

103. Your last sentence seems likely. nt

[Eyeball_Kid]

21. So Trump is killing people in Michigan and New York,

two "democratic" states. Of course, he's also killing his own fanboys who can't get on a ventilator. But that doesn't matter to him because there aren't enough fanboys in those states to turn them "red". So to hell with them. Kill them all and blame the Democratic governors.

[AllyCat]

22. Any company that complied with 45 needs public shaming.

[2naSalit]

34. +1

[GreenPartyVoter]

25. Is Michigan the new Puerto Rico? This jerk is unbelievable!!

[mucifer]

26. president john wayne gacy mass murder!! nt

[Hekate]

28. MURDERER

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

29. What vendors? What stuff?

Plus, Trump does not have any authority to tell vendors not to send stuff to any particular place.

This is the kind of vague statement that makes no sense.

[dumbcat]

43. You're not supposed to notice that

much less mention it.

It must be bad.

[Kingofalldems]

85. Can you explain this?

Link to tweet

[Sugarcoated]

96. Paywall

[BComplex]

87. He's just having FEMA offer more money to the vendors for supplies to the states that trump is

extorting. That's what the governors are saying.

[questionseverything]

118. so we have taxpayer money out bidding taxpayer money

[Bonx]

98. The stuff Chad tweeted he heard the Governor talking about on the radio

[mahannah]

32. Gov. Gretchen Whitmer is outstanding (I live in Kalamazoo).

[liberalmuse]

36. He'd better be careful.

My cousin and her wife live in Michigan. Not sure if she's a Trumpster (I don't go there) but her brother is. He lives in AZ. If Trump puts loved ones lives in danger in MI out of spite, he might remember the people he's using as pawns have family members who love them all over the country. There will be justice. Please don't give into cynicism that Trump will get away with all this in the end. He most certainly won't. It looks bad now, but believe that he is toast, because this is the truth. Never give up hope.

[johnthewoodworker]

44. The cat grabber will get away with everything. The republican coup is nearly over.

His supporters will claim all negative information as fake news. They love his vindictive, angry response, which they view as strength.
The only way he loses support with his base is if he embraces diversity, and bans guns.

[58Sunliner]

65. This creep got, supposedly, 26.5% of all eligible votes. 42% did not vote.

And I think those were manipulated. So his base is truly a minority. The only way he wins is by fraud. Like the last time. I can only hope he expires very shortly. Or we revolt.

[smirkymonkey]

38. You know, there is a solution.

However, I can't say here what it is for fear of an FBI visit. I wouldn't do it, but somebody should.

[58Sunliner]

51. Paging Mr Somebody.

[IcyPeas]

78. the guy that paints houses?

[smirkymonkey]

81. Um, something like that.

Yeah.

You know, a favor for a favor. That kind of thing.

[Cozmo]

42. The Time Has Come

Let's storm the White House!

[33taw]

50. They need to publish the names of the companies and get them on tape if possible.

[ooky]

52. He is committing genocide.

Time for everyone in the media to start calling this what it is. The whole world is watching.

[pamdb]

53. my governor

I really really hope she is correct in this It could harm her reputation if this turns out to even be a misunderstanding.

[Da-truth]

55. Trying To Kill Everybody

Is he Trying To Kill Everybody?

[58Sunliner]

61. Look up definition of a sociopath. He doesn't care.

Psychopath pretends to care, sociopath doesn't.

[tblue37]

92. Only in blue cities and states. nt

[JustAnotherGen]

56. Push it out to

Everyone in Michigan.

[0rganism]

59. we need to find out *exactly* who is doing this telling not to send stuff

that person richly deserves to be named and discussed publicly
especially in Michigan

[Mersky]

72. Precisely this

Who is relaying this to vendors? What is the chain of communication between tRump’s vengeful political machinations and states seeking resources? What is their evidence/justifications/documentation for following through with these harmful interjections?

This all needs to documented as much as possible.

Who, why, and how are they doing this?

[Beartracks]

60. Trump said he's a wartime President now. But it's not the coronavirus he's fighting. n/t

[OverBurn]

63. He's now "War Criminal" President

[roamer65]

64. If COVID-45 steals the presidency again, I am 150 pct behind Michigan secession.

We would be better off as a province of Canada.

[llmart]

102. I'm with you on that one.

I'd love to be part of Canada! I love the people there.

As an aside, I have a friend whose seventy year old father died from the virus today. He was at Beaumont in Royal Oak and they are running at capacity and have been asking - no, begging for help.

The last governor, a GOP'er, poisoned many people in Flint. Now we've got a decent, caring governor and because she's a strong, self-confident, intelligent woman and a Democrat, the sociopath in our White House is being vengeful.

[roamer65]

109. Sorry to hear it.

Many of us will eventually know someone who succumbs to this virus.

[GeorgeGist]

73. Trump knows he's not gonna win re-election ...

so he's gonna burn US to the ground.

[Turbineguy]

75. Yes.

Businesses should take advice from trump. He knows how to bankrupt them.

[MineralMan]

79. One word: EXTORTION

This is nothing else, if not that.

"Nice state you've got there, Mary B. We wouldn't want nothing bad should happen to it."

[lillypaddle]

82. How dare that useless motherfucker put

American lives at risk because he isn't getting his ass kissed to his liking. Hope he gets CV and dies, sooner the better.

[disndat]

106. Methink that Whitmer

is being considered for VP.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

112. she should publicly offer him a twirl and a blow job.

This would work in the Fox News offices or reality show version, why not with the reality show villain of all time?

Biden made her a co-chair:

"In a statement to MLive, Biden said Whitmer has been a “tenacious fighter” for Michigan while “facing a dangerous abdication of leadership from Donald Trump during this pandemic." Biden, who posted a decisive victory in Michigan’s March primary on the same day the state’s first coronavirus cases were discovered, tapped Whitmer to serve as a national co-chair for his campaign."

[DallasNE]

113. Nothing Can Stand In The Way Of Trump's Pettiness

Pettiness is part of Trump's DNA.

[Takket]

114. THIS IS MURDER

Link to tweet

?s=20

[NotHardly]

116. If true, Whitmer needs to threaten to name the names of those companies willing to cave to Trump...

as nancy cronvich @FT1965 said, and I agree... "If true, Whitmer needs to threaten to name the names of those companies willing to cave to Trump's demands to deny Michigan and its American residents lifesaving resources. Give them a few hours to respond and then go public and shame the hell out of them for the world to see."

[niyad]

119. Donnie dimwit has to punish the woman for not worshipping him.

[elias7]

124. This is impeachable, not to mention evil

[ck4829]

125. Kick

[FunkyLeprechaun]

127. Feels like deja vu

Bush did exactly the same thing to Blanco before Katrina hit. She begged him for aid, for the national guard and he didn’t listen.

And it basically ended her political career. I do still see people say that Blanco’s response, forgetting about Bush, to the hurricane was atrocious. Bobby Jindal won on the basis that the Dems were terrible during Katrina.

I wonder if that’s what they’re trying to do to Whitmer and other Dem governors? Try to say the Democrats aren’t doing enough to get people to vote GOP on all levels?