Covid-19 hits home...

[HipChick]

Have a Trumpster neighbor who I normally avoid...however, she let me know today, her mother who was in a care home, just passed, and none of the family were allowed in to see her...I offered my condolences, at the end of the conversation, she also said she was done with that conman...her whole family comes from red state Trump country...she was done, done,done he's looking out for businesses and not for American people, an angry HE LIED TO US...wow, it's sad this it what it took...

[MLAA]

1. So now we know the bar that must be met for

Some of these terrible excuses for humans must meet before they denounce impotus. A parent must die.

The problem is their choices have/will kill our parents as well.

Thanks for sharing this story and hope you can go back to avoiding her under the ‘ a little too little a little too late clause’.

[HipChick]

4. I have to maintain my social distance..

[lagomorph777]

29. It's a good idea to keep MAGAts at a social distance greater than my arm's length.

Or that arm is likely to have a fist on the end of it.

[MLAA]

63. So, so, so well said! I certainly agree

[calimary]

82. Beautifully put, lagomorph777!

DAYUM!!!

[lastlib]

91. Actually better to keep them at....

arm-plus-2x4's length.....so you're not so tempted to pick one up and ruin a good board over their thick heads.

My 2-cts advice......

[malaise]

34. Please do

This will wake them up - burying parents is one thing - not being able to be with them when they die or have a funeral is a bridge too far even for these morans.

[agingdem]

7. MAGAts are so predicable...

they hate gays until one of their own comes out...rabid anti-abortion until one of their own gets raped...they love trump until he kills granny...

[MLAA]

8. So, so true.

Don’t believe in ‘handouts’ until they lose their job and the list goes on. It all comes down to: bigotry plus lack of empathy = republican.

[paleotn]

60. Sometimes....

even when one of theirs does come out, they still hate gays....including the one of theirs that came out.

[agingdem]

62. very true

I give Republicans credit...they don't know how to govern but they know how to hate...

[Demovictory9]

11. high bar

[Demobrat]

41. Not A parent must die.

THEIR parent must die. Not my parent, not your parent, not the parent down the street.

It only matters when it happens to THEM.

[spudspud]

73. Bingo. /nt

[LisaM]

44. If she's changed her opinion of Trump, then I wouldn't call her a terrible excuse for a human.

She's just like a lot of other lost people who fall for people like Trump (and Jim Bakker and Franklin Graham, and Boris Johnson, and the list goes on).

I don't know what twists peoples' brains that they are so susceptible to all that, but it sounds as if this person is at core a vulnerable human being who's maybe going to change.

[Ferrets are Cool]

52. I respectfully disagree.

If it takes a close family member to die for you to understand what a despicable human being the orangeanus is, then YES, you too are a terrible excuse for a human. Just think...none of the OTHER deaths made her change her mind...she didn't care about those. To me, that's inexcusable. You may be a nicer person than I.

[DENVERPOPS]

59. Bravo FC

This woman and her Trumphumping CULT brought this shit down on ALL OF US......suffer like we are. They were all sooooo stupid to vote for any Republican, most of all Trump....

The Republicans collectively grew it, they should all chew it....

I do feel for the woman for her loss, but hey lady, don't look to us for sympathy, because YOU are merely finally feeling responsible for YOUR actions.

James Carville said it best on 2016 election night: Laughing, he said: "People are going to learn that their votes have consequences..."

I will not apologize for becoming Non Politically Correct, The Republicans have shown themselves for who they really are.

[Ferrets are Cool]

68. ...

[MLAA]

64. I'm with you

[Ferrets are Cool]

69. ...

[MLAA]

65. While it is true we can all be duped....

This is not a case of being duped. His voters voted for him because of what he is (racist, vulgar etc.) not because he was hiding his true self and they were duped. We have learned nothing about trump since the election that we did not learn prior to the election. The lady was fine when kids were put in cages and died, when parents were deported leaving their children behind and vice versa.

She is not fine when her mom dies.

[LisaM]

66. People get brainwashed for different reasons.

I am just glad when anyone becomes more enlightened.

[Ferrets are Cool]

71. ...

[Ferrets are Cool]

70. Bingo!!

[Ferrets are Cool]

51. This

[gibraltar72]

2. One at a time.

[Mazeltov Cocktail]

46. Thank you...

[Dan]

3. It is very sad....

As others have mentioned, until it touches them personally - they don’t understand.

I have commented about my friend that voted for Trump and now refuses to watch the news or hear anything about what is going on to the nation. But now some of her friends and family are being impacted by the virus, so now it is not the flu, now it is not fake news, etc.. But come November, I would bet the house she will vote for Trump - unless someone in her family dies of the virus. And then, even then, it would be 50% - because another factor is her religious beliefs.

What a mess...and she votes.

[HipChick]

5. Exactly..this one was a 24/7 Faux News watcher too..

[BComplex]

27. Let her know to quit watching fox.

People who watch fox are so totally misinformed. Just tell her to watch rachel every night for a week, or Chris Hayes, or Ari Melber, or Lawrence O'Donnell.

[lagomorph777]

30. Been doing that with my MIL. She's unaware that she's even in a bubble.

It's really creepy to see.

[MLAA]

6. Are you still comfortable calling her a friend?

I hold all trump voters responsible for the destruction of our basic institutions since the election. Add to that the unnecessary deaths. I no longer have any republican friends. I quit them about 3 years ago.

Just curious why you still call her a friend if you don’t mind sharing.

[Dan]

15. A valid question...

I have this system (I’ve noticed it) that I cut you slack on your first insane act:

For instance - vote for Reagan the first time - understand your mistake - second time (goodbye). But I didn’t have a lot of GOP friends, so just loss a few.

Those that voted for Bush Jr. - disagreed but, initially no big deal. After getting us in that stupid War due to his daddy issues - those that voted for his re-election - Good Bye.

This friend hated Hillary (never could understand that, asked her if Bill had slept with her or something) but I didn’t think she would vote for Trump given what was news at the time. So after she told me she voted for him (we’re in Washington State) it was hard, you have no idea how hard it was to keep this friendship of twenty years. But I think part of it was that her husband of fifty years had just died - and I didn’t have the heart to turn away from her.
She has asked me if I would terminate our friendship if she votes for Trump again, so I know that she is thinking about it. And to be honest, I just don’t know at this time. She is a good person in most things, except I have noticed she shares a lot of the GOP character traits. And sadly, if she votes for Trump for his re-election, I will terminate the friendship.

[SharonAnn]

22. Tell her that would terminate the friendship. Ethics and morality are important to you.

[lagomorph777]

31. Tell her you are a values voter, and Turd has no values or decency at all.

Nor can you trust anybody who enables him.

[HipChick]

17. She's never been a friend...just a neighbor..

Read the op

[PatrickforO]

33. That is weird. It is.

My mother taught me compassion and empathy during my early childhood. What did these people miss? How hard is it to look into someone's eyes and imagine yourself in their place?

But, bottom line, we're going to have to utterly rout them in the upcoming election - a blue landslide at all levels of government - to even have a chance to remove this cancerous corporate-propaganda-generated tumor from our republic.

[Javaman]

9. typical repuke. something only becomes a problem when if directly effect them.

until that point, they give zero fucks about anyone else.

[Wellstone ruled]

10. You just mentioned

the real Canary in the Coal Mine for the Orange Anus. Oft times it take a tragedy to awaken those who follow the false Profits of the World.

[Lars39]

12. Found out last night that an in-law's mother

is terminal in an assisted living facility under quarantine. It's 'bout to kill the family that they can't go be with her.

I don't know if this will make them see the light, though.

[Marrah_Goodman]

13. A friend of a friend died a couple days ago

A close friend of a young man I have known since he was a little tyke died in NYC of Corona. He was in his 20s.

[efhmc]

75. So sad. I am so sorry.

[duforsure]

14. Have had a similar thing happen too,

Someone I knew a while ago found out this person we knew rho used to be a was a die hard trump supporter , now they hate him more than the Democrats do.

[HipChick]

18. Yep, the Red hate and backlash

is incredible..

[UpInArms]

16. I am just so sad they had to take all of us down the road of misadventure with them

eom

[dchill]

19. And yet his poll numbers are up?

How does that happen?

[Cozmo]

23. Too Little, Too Late

[Caliman73]

25. A result of fear and the media allowing him to dominate the airwaves.

People tend to rally around authority when in crisis. Trump is president so he gets some of the benefit of the doubt. Remember that Bush, who had been criticized for being the "vacation President" and a general dumbass, had approval ratings of high 80% and even 90% after 9/11.

Media needs to stop showing Trump's ridiculous "briefing/rally" daily. He offers ABSOLUTELY NOTHING of value and actually does harm, but in the reptile brains of some people, he is at least "doing something" because he is out in front of the public and saying things.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

47. CNN and MSNBC cut away from a Trump presser after an hour of lies.

The WH squawked when they said they'd only show the parts of future pressers that weren't misinformation, but then the two networks backed down and we're back to full length pressers/rallies, or as they're known in the journalism business, "Trump Reelection Infomercials."

I wish all of the reporters would get up and walk out whenever Fat Donnie attacked one of their colleagues or any news organizations. Let him bloviate to an empty room with the cameras turned off.

[mtngirl47]

20. Two Trumpsters that I talked with are happy

that he is sending them a check for $1200. Not congress---Trump.

So there you go.

[Caliman73]

28. Yes. He is the face of government. The ugly orange face of government.

He is in front of the cameras daily spouting off about how great it is that he is giving people a HUGE check that will be great. He denigrates Congress and they get very little airtime compared to him to discuss what is actually happening.

Congress worked out the stimulus. They control the money. Trump just signs the bill and of course he was going to sign the bill because putting money into people's hands might make them forget what a shitty job he has been doing during this crisis.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

49. He has already touted that the signing ceremony for the bill will be "spectacular."

I wonder if a single Democrat will be in the room when he pulls out his Sharpie and scrawls his signature on a document he hasn't read.

I wonder if Speaker Pelosi will be invited. Probably not. After the impeachment he hates her guts.

[kimbutgar]

55. No Democrats were there st the signing only repukes

It was so staged for campaign ads it was gross.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

61. I missed the signing.

It's a good thing. My television doesn't work so good with a shoe sticking out of its screen.

[kimbutgar]

72. I hear you.

I was in a hotel room 2 weeks ago and I had to restrain myself when he came on and said the numbers would go down. After that I just couldn’t watch any of his pressers. My husband has more restraint than I and can watch him.

[calimary]

83. LOL!!!

GOOD one!

[misanthrope]

77. How much will they owe Uncle Sam after filing their tax returns?

Chances are they are giving it straight back. Aren't we taxed on it next year as well?

[fierywoman]

21. But your neighbor had the grace to admit she was wrong and intends to

change her ways. To err is to be human. Judge not that ye be judged.

[Caliman73]

24. That is terrible for your neighbor.

Unfortunately there will be more of that happening.

At the risk of generalizing, which is not a good thing to do, it appears that the conservative brain is wired toward the tendency to consider only what directly affects them (I.E. close family and maybe friends). They seem to be able to separate people as "other" more readily that people who are liberal.

I know for me, it hurts to see people that I don't know and will likely ever meet, suffer. I try to donate and advocate when I hear something happening across the country or around the world.

I knew that Trump was a con the moment he started to target a whole group of people as "rapists, murderers, and SOME good people". Everything that he has said and done has been clear indication that he only considers his own gain and would use and abuse anyone to get ahead.

It is very sad that it takes such a horrible and personal tragedy to open people's eyes.

[Texin]

26. As more and more people suffer and die, retrumplican voters will desert him.

When they fall ill, or their children, grandchildren, siblings, aunts uncles, mothers and fathers do - and some of them die, they'll grow weary of trying to support this homicidal maniac.

I hope those survivors are in large enough numbers, and I have a vision of everyone of them massing at the White House and storming the fences -- and the sharpshooters on the roof, and the rest of the Secret Service members just stand there clapping and cheering them onward. I hope they burn the damn WH to the ground with tRump in the middle of it ragetweeting as he dies.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

50. Or their fear will more tightly bind them to the con man who promises salvation.

As long as he gives them someone to blame for the pandemic -- the Chinese, the governors, Obama -- and continues to offer them false hope for a miracle cure that only he can provide, his followers will cling even more tightly to their Fearless Leader.

[kairos12]

32. MAGA

Making America Grieve Again....and again.

[mountain grammy]

35. So, it takes a plague to bring people back to reality?

Damn shame.

[ffr]

37. Yes, it took the 2007 - 2008 market melt down for Americans to vote for a democrat

As soon as we democrats rebuilt the economy, guess what we did next, usher in tRump FFS!!!

[ffr]

36. Had this been a death in your family I doubt she would have cared.

Sounds harsh, but the republicans around me are rooting for democrats to all get sick, myself included. It's finally out in the open.

They say they are family values traditionalists, but they are disgusting human beings.

[calimary]

85. Yeah. That's the "pro-life" crowd, don't forget.

[BigDemVoter]

38. Too bad that's what it took.

If it hadn't happened, I bet she would still be a MAGA.

[AllyCat]

39. Peace to their family. So sorry.

We all hopefully learn lessons eventually.

[vlyons]

40. and she will tell all her friends

the rest of her family, her neighbors, folks at her church. In addition to Trump, she won't believe any GOP congress critter either.

[Chakaconcarne]

42. In many care homes, if you test for Covid they won't let you back in...

For how long depends on the care home.

[Harker]

43. A lot of homes are going to be hit.

Misery and loss are much the same for us all.

[CanonRay]

45. That's what I've always said

It has to be totally personal for these people...has to hit them right between the fucking eyes for them to get it.

[barbtries]

48. it is sad it took this to open her eyes.

i have a co-worker whose father will likely pass during the pandemic. He's old, frail, and has been diagnosed with terminal lung cancer. he's channeling trump when we talk on the phone. it's just the flu. we'll see how many die from coronavirus compared to the domestic violence and deaths by suicide because of the great depression caused by overreacting to the pandemic. he clearly gets all of his news from fox and no matter what the facts are he is not changing his tune. I doubt the fact that he will not be able to attend his father's death or bury him properly will change that.

one of our co-workers (in a different state) is sick with what is assumed to be coronavirus. i don't know if he's been tested or not.

[lpbk2713]

53. Hard to imagine a rethuglican lying to us.

Tell her it's been going on for years. Some diehards just never wanted to admit it.

[Jarqui]

54. I've been saying this for some time

When folks start having to bury their family members and friends, their attitudes about him will change.
Obituaries cannot be spun as fake news.

Whose word do you think these family members will take: that of the healthcare provider who wore garbage bags and cotton masks, risking their life to save their loved one or the guy who has lied to the American people about 20,000 times since taking office while blaming everyone but himself.

[misanthrope]

78. Could be

One natural reaction to something like that is to look for scapegoats.

[lostnfound]

56. Tell her that some at DU are moved to tears, send condolences

Same human underneath. Losing your mom is one of the saddest things.

[captain queeg]

57. Gonna see a lot of this. It's unfortunate and it's not

I wouldn’t die to save the economy but if I’m one of the multitude that died to wake people up about Trump, Fox, and the rethugs, so be it. But I don’t have any Fox friends that I know of. My oldest sister is a Trumphumper but she and her husband are a lot more likely to die than I am.

[BigmanPigman]

58. It HAS TO affect them personally

for people to take something seriously. Not until a loved one dies will some people wake up as I have said and written often. I expect more of it and than he will see poll numbers drop as his constituents attend funerals from their cars or Skype.

[MarianJack]

67. BUT, damn it,...

...Hillary Clinton had EMAILS!

RESIST

[warmfeet]

74. I am truly sorry for anyone losing their life due to the corrupt conman.

I am also sorry for their loved ones. Vote for life, vote Democratic.

[niyad]

76. You were very kind in not pointing out to her that her support for the deranged demagogue helped

Kill her mother.

[napi21]

79. I'm glad your neighbor is converted & hope there are many more. But it hasn't converted lots of

them. I spoke to a guy on the phone tonight who was bitching about Cuomo being so biased and demanding. I explained to him "THAT'S HIS JOB!" He said what about the other States? They don't get any? Again I explained the job of a Governor is to take care of the people of his State. The other States have Governors and they must do the same for their people. He's always so eager to defend DT! I get sooo disgusted with these people. He thinks it's up to the Governors to source supplies & doesn't think the Feds have a part in it. GRRRRRRR!

[magicarpet]

93. This is trDumpie reiterating again and again that it is the job...

.... of the individual states to procure PPE, hospital supplies/equipment and ventilators. Down the road it will clean trDumpie of any responsibility or obligation to straighten out the fucked up shit show he made initially in his failure to contain or effectively manage the virus right from the outset. He was too busy running around calling it a Dem/media hoax.

Now that he wasted too much precious time, fucked things up royally, now he wants to dump the problem in the laps of the Blue State governors. Stand on the side lines, criticize them, and dump all the blame on the Dem governors for his short comings that actually caused this whole mayhem and mess virus shit show.

trDumpie wants to be the media star who has his daily little press conferences about how perfect his virus response has been. Then when things go bad quickly point the finger of blame in someone elses direction.

There is always Obama, and the mess of a government he handed over to poor wittle trDumpie.

[catbyte]

80. So I guess that thing actually had to start shooting people on 5th Avenue for some to wake up

That thing might as well be. He's killing people.

[HipChick]

81. Sad..that's what it takes..

[uponit7771]

84. Nope Trump had to start shooting THIER family members for them to wake up... truly sad

[catbyte]

87. You're right. I should've been clearer. MAGAts are by nature empathy-free so unless it happens

to them, they don't give a rip. I can't imagine how much it must suck to be them, seriously. I just can't wrap my head around it.

[Martin Eden]

86. Trumpers, at best, realize they've been conned ...

... only after it affects them personally.

[HipChick]

88. But will even a few admit it

[Martin Eden]

89. Very few

Most are too deeply programmed by decades of Fux News and Rush Limpballs to break through their delusions.

[bucolic_frolic]

90. Republicans stalked by science, Mother Nature, and a virus

They can't blame 'the gay' and try to pray it away.

Would be ironic if not so tragic.

Little minded people who think only of bank accounts.

[radical noodle]

92. Yet so many still defend him

because it hasn't hit them the way it has hit her. Yet.