Thank you thread to Nancy Pelosi for masterfully stopping R-Massie

[ffr]

She filibustered until house members could vote on passage.

DEMOCRATS ARE LEADERS!

Speaker Pelosi masterfully uses her power to stop Thomas Massie from being able to block the coronavirus bill by holding the floor and allowing members to arrive for a quorum.

Link to tweet

[Walleye]

1. A diminutive woman but large and in charge.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

2. You've been Ginsburned!

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[ronatchig]

63. Now thats FUNNY, lmao

And u go Nancy- A true American heroine.

[Zambero]

3. First a Sasse, then a Massie...

who was thwarted by a Speaker classy!

[Soxfan58]

7. .

[11 Bravo]

12. Well done!

[MFGsunny]

17. Nice one! something about a$$, no? n/t

[karin_sj]

4. Thank God for Nancy Pelosi

[2naSalit]

5. Never play chess with her!

I bet she and Pres. Obama would have some incredible matches if they ever played. She is a Master of the Constitution and every procedural rule in the book. She gets shit done. Absolutely amazing.

[RichardRay]

6. Can our local parliamentarian explain this?

I understand how it could have been forced to a roll call vote by one refusal to pass by a vice acclimation. What did the speaker do to block that?

[KayF]

9. I don't think it's meant literally

it's from PoliticusUSA.

[pnwmom]

21. She held the floor to give time to the returning House members to return for the scheduled vote. n/t

[BumRushDaShow]

25. It went further

Apparently the members who did show (a sufficient number to be considered a "quorum" meaning 218+, where not all 435 are needed), the attendees, with the blessing of the leadership on both sides, were able to kill the motion for a roll call vote by NOT providing a "second" to his motion (normally done by "a sufficient number of those standing" to indicate support for the motion).

They instead remained seated when asked for a "second" of the motion, and that meant there was no "second", and that paved the way to go forward with the voice vote only to pass the legislation.

Pretty remarkable!

[spooky3]

26. Thank you. Nt

[pnwmom]

27. Good for her. Thanks for the fuller explanation! n/t

[BumRushDaShow]

28. And then this also happened

‘Throw Massie out’ – Trump rages on Twitter after GOP congressman hints he’ll oppose coronavirus stimulus bill
Published Fri, Mar 27 202012:24 PM EDT Updated 4 hours ago

President Donald Trump on Friday lashed out at Rep. Thomas Massie, calling him a “third rate Grandstander” after the Kentucky Republican signaled he would oppose a $2 trillion relief bill intended to soften the impact of the coronavirus pandemic.

“He just wants the publicity. He can’t stop it, only delay, which is both dangerous & costly,” Trump said of Massie in a series of furious tweets.

Trump said that while Republicans had to “give up some stupid things” through negotiations with Democrats “in order to get the ‘big picture’ done,” the bill was “90% GREAT!”

“WIN BACK HOUSE, but throw Massie out of Republican Party!” Trump added.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/27/coronavirus-stimulus-trump-fumes-after-gop-rep-hints-hell-oppose-bill.html

TEXT of above tweets

Donald J. Trump
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@realDonaldTrump
· 9h

Looks like a third rate Grandstander named @RepThomasMassie, a Congressman from, unfortunately, a truly GREAT State, Kentucky, wants to vote against the new Save Our Workers Bill in Congress. He just wants the publicity. He can’t stop it, only delay, which is both dangerous......

Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump

...& costly. Workers & small businesses need money now in order to survive. Virus wasn’t their fault. It is “HELL” dealing with the Dems, had to give up some stupid things in order to get the “big picture” done. 90% GREAT! WIN BACK HOUSE, but throw Massie out of Republican Party!

9:44 AM - Mar 27, 2020

Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump

By empowering the Radical Left Democrats, do nothing Kentucky politician @RepThomasMassie is making their War on the 2nd Amendment more and more difficult to win (But don’t worry, we will win anyway!). He is a disaster for America, and for the Great State of Kentucky!

10:13 AM - Mar 27, 2020

[Hermit-The-Prog]

43. This tells me trump intends to use the money to campaign and buy GOPers.

[Cha]

44. TY, BRDS! what was Massy thinking bucking

trump?

StaySafe!

[BumRushDaShow]

47. Good morning Cha!

And yup - he tramples over anyone who bucks his narrative - even if "they didn't get the memo".

You stay safe too!!

[Cha]

48. Thanks! What do you think

Massey's motive was for stopping the bill.. too much giveaway to hard working Americans?

[BumRushDaShow]

49. I suppose he is trying to get his 15 minutes in the spotlight

These obscure but ambitious types seem to quickly learn how to become the next Gymsuit Jordans or Louis Gocarts of Congress and they don't care if it is negative attention either. However I think he picked the wrong time to "take a stand" because he is about to feel the wrath of the worst of the GOP's zombie supporters.

In one respect, he is lucky that Texas already had its primary but I wouldn't be surprised if they try to run someone as a write-in (if they can do that in Texas) to get him out of office now (from the GOP side).

[Cha]

50. Thanks for that..

Massey's from Kentucky, though, so they haven't voted yet.

[bottomofthehill]

65. It actually takes more than just a second

Ten percent of those in the Chamber have to rise and remain standing to be counted to force the recorded vote. There were over 220 Members on the Floor and in the Galleries so Massie would have needed 21 others to support his “Demand” for a recorded vote.

[BumRushDaShow]

66. From what I understand from some articles I saw

Massie needed "1/5th" to provide the 2nd.

But what happened was that both the Democratic and Republican House leadership directed their caucuses to NOT stand in support of a motion for a recorded vote, so NO member in the chamber (whether in the main seating area, the visitor's gallery, or outside of the open doors) "stood" to provide the approval. Thus with the President Pro-tem having declared an insufficient number having arisen in support of that recorded vote motion, then the motion for a recorded vote was denied, and he declared that the voice vote results would carry.

However Massie objected to insist that there was not a quorum present in the chamber, so a count to verify a quorum was requested, which was quickly done, and it was declared that a quorum WAS present, so again, the voice vote would carry.

[RichardRay]

30. I don't understand how that prevented the a-Hole from moving for a roll call n/t

[pnwmom]

31. He called for it but there was NO ONE to give him the required 2nd. n/t

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

53. So, he was stopped by Pelosi, AND by every Republican who didn't 2nd.

His popularity must be pretty low today.

[reACTIONary]

32. They established a quorum

After it became clear Massie wouldn't relent, leadership started taking steps to block his move. In a plan devised by Hoyer the night before, lawmakers were brought into the chamber, including in the public galleries above the floor to allow them to distance themselves for safety. By having a quorum of members in the chamber — at least 216 lawmakers, including in the public galleries — they could block Massie's request for a recorded vote and pass the proposal by voice vote.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/house-vote-2-trillion-coronavirus-package-deal-150869

I can't explain any further... I'm a Google not a parliamentarian .

[Wellstone ruled]

8. When are these idiots ever going to learn.

You do not mess with a Gramma and in this case a Great Gramma. Sonny your life may be shortened.

[DENVERPOPS]

11. The republicans are creating situations

that keep the Dem's constantly on the Defense, such that they have absolutely no time ever to mount an offense.

And it is working........

[Wellstone ruled]

14. The GOP learned well from

Roger Alies,Dick Nixon,Roger Stone,Paul Manafort,And Frank Luntz. It works,because we have never put a real nasty response team in place in order to bury these suckers so deep they have to pump in sunshine.

[ancianita]

20. Think she's aware of this? If so, what's really going on? I'd think she'd put together such a team.

[Wellstone ruled]

23. Ever since Gramma Pelosi

has been Dem House Leader,she is keeping a running score card on just how stupid her counterparts across the Isle have been. She engineered the largest flip of the House in History in 2018,she will do the Same for the Senate as well as add several new faces to her majority.

A great leader will always groom his or her replacement as well as delegate the Nasty to someone she or he has groomed. Hopefully a fast response team comes into focus soon.

Like the Speaker once said some months ago,he belongs in prison.

[ancianita]

29. I hope you have some insider info, because if there is a response team, I'd like to see them soon.

Maybe we already have.

Think AOC OR the squad plays a role in this? So as to deflect from Pelosi having to sponsor messaging that gets headlines? Just wondering.

[Wellstone ruled]

34. Going to get damn interesting in and around

Dem Convention time. If you have been following the Biden roll out . As you mentioned,AOC and her Cause will be on the frontline as well as others taking it to the Rethugs.

[ancianita]

35. I hear you.

I was busy supporting the most green governor of the country during the Biden rollout.

I've always followed Warren and know why Wall St quakes at the very mention of her name, and so she's the next primary candidate I saw as best qualified (better than Bernie) to put corporate America in its place and under the strict scrutiny of regulations again.

Now, IF the convention can take place, I don't see a big fight. I see Bernie leading his people into a unity position without any accusations of underhandedness by the Biden people. You saw them in their last debate. They talk to each other, not past each other.

So we'll see. I'd be surprised if the convention turns out otherwise.

[Aquaria]

52. You are in for a rude awakening

If you think BS and his supporters will behave that way, come convention time.

I foresee one massive hissy fit from them.

[Aquaria]

51. AOC and the Squad

Aren’t remotely prepared to play hardball the way Nancy does. It will take at least a few terms for each of them to get a clue how to navigate the rules the way Nancy does, and even longer to build the alliances and negotiating skills that she has.

If anything, they are the farthest from being the sort she would have an interest in grooming as future party leaders as one can imagine, because they’re firebrands and attention-seekers, rather than focused on legislation and process. Nancy has no use for people who are flashy and combative. She values consensus-building and nose-to-the-grindstone types.

That’s why I think Katie Porter, Lauren Underwood, or Veronica Escobar would be more Nancy’s type for acolytes among the freshmen class. I’d especially pay attention to Escobar. There’s a reason why Nancy let her—NOT any of the squad—handle the Democratic SOTU response. That’s a sign of unwavering trust and respect in her abilities to handle such an important task for the party.

[ancianita]

64. I hear you.

I agree with your whole assessment.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

10. Thankful she's there!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[seta1950]

13. Thank you

Madam Speaker you are the best

[Thekaspervote]

15. Kudos to madam speaker!!

[littlemissmartypants]

16. Kicked and recommended. ❤ nt

[rurallib]

18. Got to be the greatest Speaker of all time!

[Aquaria]

54. Well...

Maybe after Sam Rayburn.

There’s a reason his own colleagues named their new Congressional offices building after him.

[paleotn]

19. Experience has its advantages.

[mcar]

22. I tuned in right toward the end of it

and wondered why she kept encouraging people to be in the gallery, etc.

She was saying good stuff - explaining what's in the bill, etc., but she usually doesn't talk that long.

She is a genius - and a badass! 1 day after her 80th birthday. I should be so sharp.

[True Blue American]

46. They had to have a Quorum

To shut Massie down. They were coming from the gallery. That was his supposed complaint.

[bdamomma]

24. Thank you

Speaker Pelosi,

but then there are cult members who want to threaten her.

[turbinetree]

33. She literally is taking no prisoners with these jerks like Massie and Trump.................

touch'e Madam Speaker ....................touch'e....................Wado...................thank you............

[Laura PourMeADrink]

37. Nice to be positive but unfortunately you are wrong. Sorry

[Aquaria]

55. How so?

Because she’s done a better job at it than any “progressive” darling ever would have—or could have.

Methinks you are unaware of how well she’s whipped her party into shape to act as one body—in a party notorious for being the equivalent of herding cats.

[jimfields33]

56. Didn't trump just take the wind out of the sail on the bill

When he signed that signing order saying he was in charge of the money? I don’t think Nancy saw that coming.

[Aquaria]

59. Nope.

Signing statements carry no legal weight.

Nancy’s already set him straight about that:

Asked about the signing statement on MSNBC, Speaker Nancy Pelosi called the president's move "no surprise."

"But Congress will exercise its oversight," Pelosi said. "And we will have our panel appointed by the House to, in real time, to make sure we know where those funds are going to be expended."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/03/27/trump-congress-coronavirus-relief-oversight-152560

In other words, he can threaten all he wants, but she and the Democrats will control the purse strings.

Or shorter Nancy: Fuck you and your grubby little paws.

[jimfields33]

61. That's a relief

[Laura PourMeADrink]

36. I agree she may be trying..but we are up against the

World's master. if you watched his briefing today, and Biden on AC CNN tonight...we are doomed.

[Turin_C3PO]

38. In a NEW poll,

Trump trails Biden by nine points. We are not doomed. An analyst thinks the uptick in approval of Trump is due to some Dems giving him the benefit of the doubt during this crisis but don’t intend to vote for him.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

39. That's encouraging. But that we have to jump through

hoops to rationalize that we are really ok is not the best position.

[Aquaria]

58. Good grief.

Can Democrats do anything right?

You keep tearing down Pelosi and the party with snide remarks, but offer no evidence to support your positions.

Let me guess—she’s too “corporate” and “establishment” for your tastes.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

67. That is one hundred percent absurd. Our side and

the press are doing the best they know how to do against a deviant in the normal world. But that doesn't equate to stopping him. Look at all he has done...even a fraction would have doomed any other leader. That alone has to tell you business as usual isn't working.

[Aquaria]

60. Who's this world's master?

Because nobody with a functioning brain thinks either that Fatty McDumbass has ever looked masterful, or that Biden did poorly with his appearance.

In fact, Biden has gotten praise for his town hall. He was knowledgeable, humble, compassionate and presented himself as the kind of calm and steady leader who could see us through any crisis.

Only an utter fool could see doom in that outing from him.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

68. I'll ignore your utter rudeness. A person can be a master

at manipulation and mind control and deviant misuse of the press and the media. We are witnessing that every single day. Watch the 4 part documentary on trump on Netflix. They spoke about how trump is the best self promoter who ever existed. Comments welcome. That would be much better than childish jabs at me.

[spanone]

40. THANK YOU MADAM SPEAKER!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

42. 100% respect your opinion. But you honestly think

that whatever anyone says including Pelosi has an effect on trump? I listened to his whole CV presser. Gonna take some kind of monumental outside the box thinking to rid us of trump.

[Aquaria]

57. If she had no effect

He would have invited her to the signing.

If she had no effect, he wouldn’t be throwing tantrums about her whenever he mentions her.

If she had no effect, he wouldn’t have sent Mnuchin to negotiate with her.

He’s scared to death of her because he knows she’s smarter and tougher than he is, and that he can’t control her. He’s tried everything to steam roll over her, only to be the one flattened on the ground whenever they go one on one.

It’s remarkable that she’s the one keeping him in a tizzy, given how little power she has to work with.

[proud patriot]

41. Happy Birthday Madame Speaker

You are the Bomb

[True Blue American]

45. I listened to her.

She told them to come down from the balcony and to hurry, the longer it took them, the longer she would talk. She put that useless piece of humanity in his place. Even his fellow Republicans were angry at him. I hope they file ethics charges against him or freeze him out.

AOC had threatened the same thing, but at least she spoke for her minute ,sat down. Her District is hard hit.

[bucolic_frolic]

62. Outbreak of toxic Massie nipped in the bud

Way to go, it's a good practice. Little weed has no business thinking he would stop this bill so it was just grandstanding. I mean reality, is reality. Right, Bernie?