It Occurs to Me That Trump Supporters Are More Likely

[MineralMan]

to become victims of the Coronavirus than those who do not support Trump. They are more likely to flaunt social distancing guidelines, from what I have seen. One Trump supporter on my block actually had a party at his house yesterday evening. Fundamenalist churches and even so-called Christian colleges are ignoring suggestions and even orders not to hold large gatherings.

Meanwhile, everyone I know who is a Democrat is carefully staying home if not part of an essential business. They are not out socializing or flaunting safety recommendations. Instead, they are doing what is being said about how to avoid infection and spread of this dangerous virus.

Democratic Governors, too, are more rapidly instituting statewide orders that shut down nonessential businesses and organizations, while Republican leaders follow Trump's lead and avoid giving such direction to their states until they are forced to by reality.

It appears that the same types of people who refuse to vaccinate their children are the ones buying up all the toilet paper and ignoring guidelines. They're investing in guns and ammunition instead of in their families' safety and well-being.

Once again, Trump supporters are demonstrating their lack of common sense, which is less common among them that among those who think before acting. Trump, in his ignorance and willful disregard for expert advice, is giving his followers advice that might kill them

Isn't that ironic?

[Walleye]

1. Yes. And they are buying guns supposedly to protect their families.

When staying home and washing their hands is what would keep their families safe.

[MineralMan]

10. They'd have to think, though, to realize that.

[Walleye]

16. They don't really want to protect their families

They just want to shoot somebody, preferably with darker skin.

[MineralMan]

17. Fortunately, most just think about it and obsess about it.

They buy guns and ammo, even if they already have guns and ammo. Most will never really use them for anything.

Thank goodness for that.

[sop]

23. Gun fondlers always justify adding to their arsenals with some SHTF scenario.

(SHTF: shit hit the fan)

[MineralMan]

25. Sure, but in an epidemic, they're more likely to be victims.

[sop]

27. You can't shoot at what you can't see.

[calimary]

63. And if you're a science denier and you think this is all some hoax or really not that bad,

then - sorry. Too bad for you.

As your "dear leader" would say: "we'll see what happens."

[redstatebluegirl]

14. They would have to believe in science to understand the importance.

Lord knows they all hate smart people, especially scientists.

[meow2u3]

15. They must think they can shoot coronavirus dead

[ladym55]

114. Heard one of the "great minds" interviewed

about his gun purchase. He said it was for protection "when the looting started."

[elias7]

119. Yes, we'll start by looting his toilet paper, his 10 cans of beefaroni and his 1 large screen tv

and then move on before he can even get a round off

[Doreen]

37. My thought about them buying all this gun an ammo to

"protect their family" is bull. Funny thing is that it would more likely be them to storm some innocent persons house to do what they claim they are trying to keep from happening to them.

[mainer]

69. Those guns will come in handy when they get cabin fever

and everyone in the family wants to murder each other.

[LW1977]

73. Shoot the Corona Virus, that will learn it!

[Takket]

93. reminds me of chief wiggum "shooting at" the flu to try and kill it

[link:

?t=60|

[Aquaria]

105. The guns are to take out

The brown hordes who want to steal their 8000 rolls of TP and 115 cans of Spam.

[Aquaria]

106. I was going to include a sarcasm tag

But it’s really how these dolts “think.”

[Brainfodder]

2. But fucking gross negligence etc etc. nonetheless?

[mitch96]

3. I believe these people that DON'T believe this is a problem should volunteer at a hospital or

clinic that treats CoVid patients.. They are special and can't get it don't you know.
And that will never happen..
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[Aristus]

127. You mean help other people? Never!

Helping other people is socialism!!!

[mitch96]

128. "Helping other people is socialism!!!"

Unless you are a big cooperation in trouble and then the Gov't will bail you out.. The rest of us are stuck with the capitalist sink or swim, you have the ability to succeed or fail mantra.
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[HotTeaBag]

4. Perhaps, but New York and specifically NYC (not known for being MAGA bastions)

are getting hit pretty hard.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

7. That is probably because NYC is densely populated and is also an entry point

for people coming in from everywhere, as well as a major tourist destination. Social distancing is harder for millions of people packed into big apartment buildings and having to walk along crowded sidewalks in order to go anywhere.

[SWBTATTReg]

29. I saw that in Rhode Island, they are actively searching out for cars out of state w/ NY ...

license plates and making them self isolate for 2 weeks. I suspect that this will get worse, and in a small way, I don't blame them, they (the NY refugees) are likely (some of them) be positive w/ the Covad 19 virus, and thus, pop up in these out of NY locations, possibly infecting others.

[customerserviceguy]

34. I was wondering when someone would bring that up

The New England-New York rivalry gets an ugly turn.

[SWBTATTReg]

38. Yes, unfortunately. But I think that the NY people need to step up and be responsible here...

they have just left a highly contagious area and fled into areas (their vacation homes, etc.) and are possibly infecting others in these formerly infection free areas.

I don't blame the non New Yorkers for being so paranoid...their medical facilities are probably next to nothing, and then to have out of town people come in, and possibly flood their meager hospital facilities w/ sick CV patients...what can you say?

In addition, these people from out of town will buy up everything at the local Mom and Pop store, who never really stock tons of stuff in their store(s), they don't have the room or resources to overstock a ton of stuff. This throws the entire balance out for the entire area. I suspect that we're seeing the beginning of a backlash before too long. I know that country hospitality goes for a long ways, but when it's negatively impacting the lives of those who put their money, lives, blood and sweat into these small communities, and then see these people come in...

Hmmm...

[customerserviceguy]

44. I do understand that

point of view. I used to live out on the Olympic Peninsula of Washington state, and urban-area tourists from Everett down to Olympia were looked upon as screwing over rural communities when they came out to the boondocks on three-day summer vacations.

But, those tourists brought money with them. Parts of those economies could not have survived year-round without tourist season propping up the motels, restaurants, etc.

[SWBTATTReg]

48. I know. The extra money these tourists brought w/ them was what motivated a lot of ...

businesses where I grew up (in the Ozarks, trout fishing, hunting). No jobs of course anywhere unless you drove 100 miles roundtrip daily.

Of course all of the other problems (drinking, etc.) all came along for the trip too.

Take care and be safe!

[luvtheGWN]

57. Unfortunately the same thing is happening here in the GWN.

Folks who live in Toronto and have cottages up north (you might call them cabins or camps) are going up there to "get away from" potential interaction with Covid-19. However, the local hospitals are not as large, nor as well-equipped to handle these people if they get sick.

And then you just have plain, thoughtless people who seem to think "I'm alright Jack" and silently mutter "F**k you". A couple of snowbirds in my town -- even though warned at the border about self-isolation -- shopped at the local grocery and then headed to the pharmacy. She was asking a clerk for something and mentioned that she had just returned from Florida. The clerk said "You must leave this store now and go home, and stay there for the next 14 days." The woman started arguing but the clerk was adamant. Of course she walked out in a huff. A few minutes later her husband -- having been similarly reprimanded -- also left in a huff.

Now they can be fined or even imprisoned for breaking this particular safety law.

[SWBTATTReg]

71. Unfortunately (I apologize) I don't know what GWN stands for, I looked but no luck. More and ...

more people like the two you described in your story (leaving in a huff too (I laughed, so what?)) are flooding into rural areas (I can imagine down where my Mom and Dad live, 20 miles from anywhere, in the Ozarks, and who frequent a small Mom and Pop store, are running into the same problems, that people fleeing KCMO and STLMO are perhaps flooding into these areas and overwhelming the local infrastructure, I certainly hope not as my folks are in their 80s. At least my brother and two sisters are relatively close by (my two sisters are actually there now).

It'll get to the point that when someone is discovered that they didn't isolate, they will be stamped w/ an 'under isolation' stamp on their wrist (I saw something like this on a DU article about somewhere in England, where they stamped those people who were supposed to be in isolation). I guess that there are always a&&holes around, not caring about the general population where they came to roost. I've even seen articles where outsiders are being told to leave. It's for the overall general safety of all who live there...I don't blame them.

Oh well, the times we live in are certainly interesting. Take care of yourself and be safe!

[hatrack]

74. "Great White North", I think . . .

[SWBTATTReg]

77. Thanks!

[luvtheGWN]

76. GWN stands for Great White North

Did you ever watch SCTV many years ago? The fictional Bob and Doug MacKenzie -- majors hosers! -- always did a segment making fun of themselves -- cases of Molson Canadian beer, plaid jackets, sitting around doing nothing in front of a map of the Great White North (aka Canada).

We Canadians have a great sense of humour (well, most of us!). Even Saturday Night Live was the inspiration -- and still the baby of -- Lorne Michaels, a great Canadian! Being the mouse living next door to the elephant, having a sense of humour is pretty important. And someone many years ago (one of our former Prime Ministers, I think) noted that when the elephant sneezes, the mouse catches a cold.

Hoping your parents and siblings stay well away from any sneezes.

[hatrack]

84. Take off, eh?!?

"I always though drowning in beer would be Heaven. This isn't Heaven, this sucks!"

[SWBTATTReg]

85. Thanks. I never did get to watch this (SCTV). Sounds like a show I'll look up and enjoy ...

watching. Thanks for the tip. The same to you, in that all are safe and sound in your family, and that all stays well. Take care of yourselves and thanks again! Note, I did watch Northern Exposure (loved it) and the John Candy movie where they were going to 'invade' Canada etc. A funny movie indeed.

[pstokely]

79. could those be rental cars driven by locals?

Last edited Sat Mar 28, 2020, 06:44 PM - Edit history (1)

many rental cars have out of state plates, even if rented from a neighborhood Enterprise or Avis instead of an airport

[SWBTATTReg]

87. There are always aren't there? Your guess is good as mine. NT

[bdamomma]

94. read this article

https://www.alternet.org/2020/03/cell-phone-tracking-analysis-shows-where-florida-springbreakers-and-new-yorkers-fleeing-coronavirus-went-to-next/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4136

[SWBTATTReg]

107. Yes, it is scary. There are some that are concerned about privacy, and they really shouldn't be,

being that I was in the phone world, and was heavily involved w/ the AMA recordings (each call made causes a recording to be made at the hosting switch), and there's no ownership at that time on the call, just the phone number which is tabulated against a master list of numbers, to be routed to the appropriate phone company for billing purposes (they run the call recordings against a list of their customers owning the numbers at that particular phone company, hence ID'ing the owner for billing purposes. Kind of like:

phone A, point A to point B, using the originating number 123, to terminating number 456, no ownership;
phone B, point A1 to point B1, using the originating number 123a, to terminating number 567, no ownership;
etc.

Then a clearing house at that time will compare what phone company controls the bank of phone numbers (123, 123a, etc.), and send the recordings to that particular phone company. Who then will compare the phone numbers 123, 123a, etc. against their billing tables and assign the owners to them for billing purposes.

[jberryhill]

91. Which is why the OP is misguided

It is obvious that this will have a greater impact on cities and population centers more than rural areas.

[MineralMan]

9. Yes. NYC is prime territory for an epidemic, unfortunately.

Crowded streets, subways, and a very dense population. Still, Trump isn't sending supplies there as fast as needed.

He can't ignore NYC, but he can drag his feet. The cost of delay, though, will be very high.

[HotTeaBag]

43. I agree, which is why I wasn't all that upset to have to work from home

until the work went away this week.

I actually asked to work from the home the week before the recommendations starting coming out from the city and state. I realized that between the train ride in from New Jersey and then the subway and then the couple of extra blocks walk to and fro each day I probably came into contact with several hundred if not a thousand people - I thought early on that it was simply a matter of time before I caught it - not if, but when. Thankfully I 'got out' in time.

I'm not at all surprised that the virus found ample purchase among New Yorkers early on - there is simply no where to go, everyone is (almost quite literally) on top of each other.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. That's becoming more and more obvious.

A lot of Trumpers don't believe the virus is a big deal (not yet, anyhow). It hasn't hit the South as hard yet, except for Louisiana (and their problem might have been aggravated significantly by Mardi Gras), but that isn't only Trump country, it's where the largest concentration of poorer, older and less healthy people live, and where medical facilities are less available. Let them flout (not flaunt, sorry) social distancing guidelines all they want, pack the fundie megachurches on Easter, see where it gets them. Trump will be killing off his base.

[Hortensis]

55. Actually, I live in the deep south, GA and at the moment

rural central FL, and almost all people we are acquainted with, or just aware of the movements of, are self quarantining. And disinfectants and TP flew off the shelves very early here just as in other places. From what little I see and hear of the whole, I think a weak point may be intrafamily contact between households.

Some counties and municipalities have imposed quarantines even though governors refuse; our son's county just did yesterday, but schools were already closed and our kids and their friends have been self quarantining basically since when much of the nation started. Our grandchildren's schools in AR are also closed.

Journalism has to sell newspapers, so they take pictures of weddings and churches still pulling 'em in for services. FL's The Villages have 50K people, and those parties in the pictures are lucky to have 50. But if they mention that this is now unusual, it's way down.

Not to say the shocking spread isn't tragic and dreadful, and we're going to find whole groups and towns that were lead into deep trouble by bad leaders; but in imagining what's happening down here, people need to realize that, even if some came to it a week or two behind, most of those defiant idiots featured have acquaintances and family who are not allowing that kind of acting out around them.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

66. That's good to hear. I hope more local governments take control

even if governors don't. Maybe more people, even Trumpers, are starting to realize that this is serious.

[Hortensis]

83. Yes, yes, me too! Most Trump voters are not crazy,

just contemptibly politically ruled by partisanship in a way too many on the left also are. Then there are those others...

Even the woman at the end of the road who divorced (and I was glad to see gone) and recently returned to take care of her husband, who's convalescing from a bad accident, though. She drove my nice husband, who'd come to see how they were doing, away yesterday by telling him Trump and the Repubs were so busy defending the nation from our evil attempts to impeach that they weren't able to address the pandemic. We're killing people. Of course. But she's aware of the danger and quarantining them both.

[NCDem47]

6. If it's not happening to them, then its not happening.

We're on the same page. Had a post on similar-ish observations:

[link:https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213189779|

[MineralMan]

12. Yup. Thanks for the link.

[RKP5637]

8. I've had some people look at me like I just landed from outta-space ... I was wearing gloves

when doing some necessary shopping a couple of weeks ago. ... like WTF are you doing. ... I think all you said is 100% spot on. I think many tRump supporters are absolute idiots, seriously. I have no difficulty believing they completely do not comprehend the seriousness of the Coronovirus. ... and most are absolute morons in understanding any scientific research and explanations.

[customerserviceguy]

35. When I went out shopping

at Kroger, I had purple gloves and a surgical mask (both left over from my lady's surgery in November) on, and nobody else was wearing either. I figured I might be challenged by another shopper (plenty of Trumpers around here) so I was going to tell them that I had a compromised immune system, and that might back them off. No need to do that, just my own paranoia!

[RKP5637]

42. I think by now many are starting to get it. n/t

[customerserviceguy]

46. Not so much down here yet.

Once everybody knows of someone who has died from this, especially if the deceased is not a senior citizen, then it might hit home. Also, once a truly famous person dies from it, that might make an impression.

[RKP5637]

49. Yep, as with many things, often people feel immune to everything and it's the other guy.

Be safe!!!

[LiberalLoner]

11. Rick Wilson posted something about that

How after all this is over, we should look at death rates related to Fox News viewership. I really love his tweets, there are some great ones IMHO.

[BComplex]

45. And he's a republican! My aunt is one,and she HATES trump.

There are a bunch of those out there. I don't know any democrats that love trump, so it doesn't work both ways.

[RoadRunner]

13. They wanted to "shake things up"

Shaken, not stirred.

[central scrutinizer]

18. predominately white flyover states

Not a coincidence that the major US outbreaks so far have been in the most cosmopolitan areas. I’m sure some of the most rabid MAGATs are relishing the fact that the PC libtard sanctuary areas are suffering.

[MineralMan]

19. Minnesota isn't spiking too high yet.

We have our worries, but our Governor has been early on imposing restrictions and on educating Minnesotans.

Oddly enough, Wisconsin, to the east of us, has more cases and more deaths, despite having a much lower population density and a lower population overall. Wisconsin is somewhat more conservative than Minnesota, as well.

[sop]

36. Trends always begin on the two coasts, then slowly filter into the heartland. So too with the virus.

[bdamomma]

98. they MAGA'S are not immune

soon it will going into middle America.

[NameAlreadyTaken]

20. Are climate change deniers also coronavirus deniers?

[MineralMan]

22. Probably so. I haven't done any comparisons or correlations.

[J_William_Ryan]

28. Yes

[pecosbob]

21. All major metropolitan areas will become transmission hubs intitially

only later will it spread more deeply into the rural states. Red states will likely suffer more in terms of shortages of beds as result of their relatively poor infrastructure.

I wouldn't put it past them to funnel critically short resources to supportive states and deny them to others or even try to influence swing electoral states, but the cynic in me says they'll simply try to profit off of the mess at every turn. At any rate I think he may have pissed off Michigan beyond salvage by shitting on their governor. Seems to me that most every swing state in the Great lakes region all have Democratic governors currently...

[randr]

24. We all may wish this to be true, however

densely populated urban areas are the most likely to see high numbers. Maybe Trumps call for Easter services may change that.

[gibraltar72]

26. We call that taking a row out.

[Yavin4]

30. It's analogous to states that enacted the Medicaid expansion and those that did not.

Life expectancy in those states that did not expand Medicaid is lower than the ones that did.

[Sloumeau]

31. Coronavirus was called "Boomer Remover". it is more likely "Conservative Remover". nt

[magicarpet]

96. COVID-19 : Red Neck & Nazi Remover....

[I_UndergroundPanther]

116. I truly hope

This virus goes after conservatives..

But viruses aren't discrimitory sadly..they just maim infect spread and kill.

But one can dream.

[Stargleamer]

32. Except they don't tend to live in urban areas

where the virus hits harder.

New York, New Jersey, California, and Washington are 4 the five states with the most cases, and they're all blue states: https://ncov2019.live/data Rounding out the top ten are Illinois, Michigan, Florida, Pennsylvania, and Massachusetts. Except for Florida, these are all blue states.

[jberryhill]

81. Exactly. The OP ignores reality

This is no more than wishing death on people one dislikes.

[meadowlander]

99. It spreads faster in urban areas but they have better hospital systems.

Rural hospitals are on life support in the US in the best of times. It won't take a lot of cases in Omaha or Little Rock before they are turning people away.

And, as I said below, Trump has created a free-for-all for medical equipment which Nebraska and Montana aren't going to win.

The ten early states (mostly blue) are going to suck up all the ventilators and PPE. They aren't going to hit their peak until May so good luck getting any of it back. It will take a few months before the new ventilators are built and then they are still likely to go to the richest states.

It will spread more slowly to and in the red states but once it starts spreading they are going to have a much higher death rate.

[SWBTATTReg]

33. I agree (more likely). Like the big spring break parties in FL and all along the coast, and then...

of course they all flood back home into the rest of the US, New Orleans is the same way, party away, and then flood back home to the rest of the US. Irresponsible. We're going to dealing w/ the negative impact of these bad decisions for a long time afterwards, unfortunately and it's going to cost lives.

One day a reckoning will come. Poor decisions will be examined, and the voters will vote. Those leaders who stood up and took aggressive steps to counteract and implement actions that reduced the possible CV impact in their states and communities, will be remembered.

It is ironic. These people are the source of their own demise.

[The King of Prussia]

39. My rather simpler analysis

This will hit the dirty and the stupid disproportionately hard, and they overwhelmingly vote for right wing parties.

[Squinch]

40. Let the self-culling begin!

[Gothmog]

125. Agreed

Link to tweet

?s=20

[johnthewoodworker]

41. I'm a retired RN living in Northern Wisconsin. My wife has lung issues.

No cases in our county yet, but a few in nearby counties. We follow all the precautions social distancing, hand washing, etc. We leave the house about once per week for groceries. This is a republican area, but we haven't been out enough to note the behavior of others.
We also have guns and ammo, it's more of an accepted thing in rural areas.
The problem that arises is if republicans infect others randomly, family, friends etc.

[MineralMan]

47. Looks like the first affected areas in WI

were in Western Wisconsin, closer to the Twin Cities. I haven't followed the spread in that state very closely, although we get reports here in the Twin Cities media.

[johnthewoodworker]

50. Yeah, La Crosse area and of course Milwaukee area, also.

[MineralMan]

52. Sure. Milwaukee caught it from Chicago, I suppose.

Lots of commuting between those two cities.

[getagrip_already]

58. could just be a lack of testing.....

Chances are you have cases and don't know it because your local health department isn't approving tests or simply not releasing data.

Many deaths across the US are going unreported because the dead aren't being tested. That is even happening in areas that do test and report. The deaths just get classified as something else.

The real data point is how many general hospital and icu beds are open. But you would need to know a nurse or doctor to find out.

Florida for example is simply forcing nursing home's to keep the sick in place. Most are health care facilities anyway, but may not have icu level care. But those numbers aren't being tracked.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

51. The upside is. ...LESS votes in the states for Trump.....

[McCamy Taylor]

53. When they get it they plan to go to minority communities and spread it.

Or so says US Intelligence

[MineralMan]

54. They may discover that the minority communities

are also armed, and want nothing to do with them.

Stupid people do stupid things.

[IronLionZion]

56. A lot of them think they are rebelling against socialism

by not following directions from their state and local governments. Here in DC, the police have blocked off a lot of popular parks and tourist areas to avoid crowding.

Rural areas might have more time due to their natural isolation but people get around a lot and visit each other so they'll get it too.

[DownriverDem]

59. Of course it wouldn't

occur to trump that what he is doing will kill a lot of his supporters. So be it.

[MineralMan]

60. Trump's Attention Span is Approximately 5 Minutes

He doesn't think ahead. Hell, he doesn't think much at all.

[kairos12]

61. Problem is they will get sicker, faster than socially responsible people

and will clog the medical system. Call them medical hoarders.

[mwb970]

62. The republican governor of Ohio is doing a good job. Much better than trump!

[krawhitham]

115. +1

[bucolic_frolic]

64. Right on the money

Democratic households must live carefully. They live prudently, often with periods of austerity mixed with periods of frugality. Their family lore comes from the Great Depression, they avoid what debt they can and rarely borrow unwisely. Waste not, want not. Save for a rainy day.

[Texin]

65. MineralMan, it appears to me (from what I've seen with my own eyes) and what falls

out of tRump's mouth, is that they are hoping there are more victims from congested and diverse cities, i.e., New Orleans, Detroit, Miami, SF and LA, Dallas, Houston, i.e. Democratic strongholds, that he's hoping most of the black and Hispanic people (and the older citizens) to all die, enhancing his reelection chances.

[bucolic_frolic]

67. Diabolical

Demographically sound argument. He'll do nothing to help something that works in his favor. But he's late to the party if he hoped to halt the spread to rural MAGAt enclaves, though the ow density could make the infection rate far less than cities.

You're really on to something.

[MineralMan]

70. I think it is going to backfire on Trump, though.

That's my guess.

[MineralMan]

80. The thing is that, even if 1% of the people in NYC died, that city would still

have an overwhelmingly larger population of voters, and they'd be righteously pissed off.

Most people survive COVID-19 OK. it's beginning to look like the true mortality rate will be 1% or less of those who actually contract the disease. So, if anyone's dreaming about depopulating the cities, that's not going to happen.

I'm not saying that the pandemic is being overstated. It's not. But, it is not going to depopulate any place. The big cities will still be big cities, regardless of what happens. And the small towns are still going to be small towns. Most of the population will still be in metropolitan areas along both coasts, just as they are right now.

The same states with the highest populations will still have the highest populations.

So. what is 1% of 7 million? What is 99% of 7 million.

I hope we can minimize the mortality. Odds are that we will. The present efforts will make a big difference, and so will the development of effective treatments and a future vaccine. That's why delaying the pandemic is the best approach. People are working very, very hard on treatments and vaccines. Those will surely come. The trick is to remain healthy until they do. That's what self-quarantining, etc. can do. We need to stick to that for now, and for the foreseeable future.

Help is coming. It's not here, but it's coming.

[meadowlander]

101. He needs an electoral college win though

so no matter how many people die in NY and California he was never going to win them anyway. He cares about the purple states - Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida.

Most Republicans are older and older people are more at risk of dying. So letting Covid-19 run unchecked through Florida is going to cost him a lot more old, white votes than younger Hispanic votes.

I wouldn't attribute to malice what is clearly greed and incompetence. He doesn't know how to run a Federal response to something like this. He doesn't want to nationalise industries and piss off his donors. And he thinks making all the states bid against each other will drive up the costs meaning more profits for his donors.

[bdamomma]

103. yes, he is that evil

to do that he hates democrats, plus the only reason why he's running again he doesn't want to go to prison, cause the day he leaves the WH he will get arrested.

I just hope he contracts it if he has already.

[TheBlackAdder]

68. Yep. It's the self-affecting Libertarian 'ME' gene rearing its ugly head. Eff everyone else.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

72. #CullThe Herd nt

[pstokely]

75. are you under stay at home order?

did you call the non emergency hotline for your local PD?

[jberryhill]

78. Unlikely

Trump support is stronger in suburban and rural areas which provide natural social distancing.

It is beyond obvious that the greatest incidence is happening, and will continue to happen, in dense urban areas.

Your hypothesis is completely inconsistent with the observable fact that the New York City metropolitan area is currently the hardest hit.

[bdamomma]

82. good post

MineralMan, stay safe.

[spooky3]

86. An elderly relative didn't believe it was real until his

geriatric care manager explained it to him. The Fox effect made him tune family out.

Thank goodness for her. As an RN, she is the only one allowed to visit at his CCC. Don’t know what we would do without her.

[spooky3]

88. I'm not sure about the TP etc buying. I live in a very

blue area and there are lots of stock outs here.

[MineralMan]

90. I'm just saying that it's not the preppers who are

buying out the toilet paper. It's amateurs who don't normally buy large quantities. They also bought bottled water, bread, eggs, and milk. Amateurs. The toilet paper will be back on the shelves pretty soon. The rest is available every day, somewhere near you.

Go to a different store if yours is out. Hint: Try ethnic markets. Hispanic or oriental. Go to smaller, neighborhood stores, too. The stuff is out there. You just have to use some imagination to find it. Stop in at a gas station convenience store where you never go and that isn't busy. They have TP, too.

[spooky3]

92. Thanks. We have enough. I was just pointing out that

There are a lot of Dems who stocked up too, and there are empty shelves here as well as elsewhere.

[Joinfortmill]

89. Its mind boggling

[Blue Owl]

95. Natural Selection in real time

n/t

[meadowlander]

97. If Trump/MAGAts think having each state bid for medical equipment is going to go well for red states

they are sorely mistaken.

The Mississippis and West Virginias of the world are not going to outbid California and New York.

I'll just say that it's appalling that we don't have a coordinated Federal response, but I think the result is going to be the big blue early states snap up all the medical equipment and the red states have their hospital systems fall to pieces faster and more completely.

Trump will stoke blue-state resentment on the basis of this, but really it's just another example of them punching themselves in the balls by supporting Republicans.

[jimfields33]

100. You think? Those 759 New Yorkers were trump supporters?

I’d need some sort of information of the people who died. Florida deaths are mostly Broward county our saving grace in not having a completely red state.

[MineralMan]

104. I believe you misunderstood my post.

[jimfields33]

117. Very typical of me. 😂

[underpants]

102. They got the message

Why would you NOW start listening to these smartypants scientist and not listen to ME?!?!

They really don't have to be told more than once. They are very obedient and well trained.

[XRubicon]

108. They don't get flu shots either

I wonder if they will take the vaccine for this.

My guess is they will because shit only matters when it happens to them.

[LPBBEAR]

109. I agree

Their stupidity is going to get larger numbers of them killed than us. Since the last election was decided by so few people I'm wondering how much difference this might make when combined with the increasing hatred for Trump?

[Gothmog]

110. Florida's huge 'Republican-rich' retirement settlement hit with coronavirus community spread:

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[Gothmog]

111. Louisiana pastor dies from COVID-19 -- after claiming coronavirus was a 'mark of the beast' conspirac

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[Gothmog]

112. Christian right's hostility to science is definitely going to get people killed

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[Gothmog]

113. Coronavirus cases are rising faster in states that voted for Trump: Nate Silver

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[Gothmog]

118. Holding Easter services is a good way to kill off trump supporters

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?s=20

[Gothmog]

120. Branch Covidians packing into church

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[MineralMan]

121. Ignorant Dupes!

Ugh!

[Gothmog]

122. I had a similiar reaction

[Gothmog]

123. trump is wanting to restart his rallies

This is sick

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[Gothmog]

124. GOP governors were slower in adopting social distancing

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[C_U_L8R]

126. And guess who doesn't believe in Darwin?

They're gonna be so surprised when they get the big award.

[Gothmog]

129. Hopefully these idiots will prove Darwin correct

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[scarytomcat]

130. not to mention it but they don't like to wash there hands much

so I'll mention it

[Gothmog]

131. I really hope that this racist idiot holds his event

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[Gothmog]

132. rump's tribe of wacko supporters have spiraled out of control

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