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iluvtennis

(19,844 posts)
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:24 PM Mar 2020

Lawrence O'Donnell: What kind of pathological liar lies about his lies to people who have video

Lawrence O'Donnell@Lawrence·16m
What kind of pathological liar lies about his lies to people who have video recordings of the lies he’s lying about and who actually read his previous lies to him word for word as he tries to lie about those lies?




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Spot on Lawrence.
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Lawrence O'Donnell: What kind of pathological liar lies about his lies to people who have video (Original Post) iluvtennis Mar 2020 OP
Lies winetourdriver01 Mar 2020 #1
Indeed. nt iluvtennis Mar 2020 #2
Unfortunately, so will the rest of us. niyad Mar 2020 #37
Lawrence already said "pathological." That's part of it. soldierant Mar 2020 #53
i know!! my jaw dropped watching the video. Demovictory9 Mar 2020 #3
What video? n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #6
here Demovictory9 Mar 2020 #10
Ha ha ha! He thinks THAT's "threatening"? Grokenstein Mar 2020 #19
I wouldn't have been able to contain myself Ahpook Mar 2020 #31
Here: PCIntern Mar 2020 #32
No liar, no liar, you're the liar if you repeat exactly what I said dalton99a Mar 2020 #4
It's positively Cheney-esque. Lying taken to a whole new level, without any hint of pretense. sop Mar 2020 #5
That was Karl Rove. nt tblue37 Mar 2020 #29
You're correct. The quote from the NYTimes Magazine article (Oct. 17, 2004) was originally sop Mar 2020 #34
Karl Rove, another supreme asshole I had almost forgotten about DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #49
BIDEN WILL HAVE TO SHOW VIDEO OF TRUMP LYING !!! uponit7771 Mar 2020 #7
Remember the 'Draft Day' movie? WyattKansas Mar 2020 #8
He lies because: procon Mar 2020 #9
Don't call it 'steamrolling'. Aussie105 Mar 2020 #25
The correct term is "gaslighting" TrogL Mar 2020 #40
How did Bif get elected president? mdbl Mar 2020 #42
Unfortunately, he has intimidated the reporters into silence. They fear being blackballed. olegramps Mar 2020 #51
He would lie about the time of day central scrutinizer Mar 2020 #11
Donald Trump is an idiot and an ass hat. MarianJack Mar 2020 #12
You answered your own question. Warpy Mar 2020 #13
Malignant narcissit - that fits trump to a tee.nt iluvtennis Mar 2020 #14
Such an asshole. smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #15
Simple answer. Simple questions Pillow talk Mar 2020 #16
What has two thumbs and lies about the lies he's lying? Grokenstein Mar 2020 #17
Psychology will have to define a new category of disorder just for trump. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2020 #18
His rabid followers are just gleeful with joy about this. It's owning the libs, with no consequences NBachers Mar 2020 #20
He's delusional. cwydro Mar 2020 #21
Yep. He convinces himself of everything... dchill Mar 2020 #26
Once this pandemic is over, Aussie105 Mar 2020 #22
The kind who has never in his life been held to account quakerboy Mar 2020 #23
wait, I know this one... bringthePaine Mar 2020 #24
Lawrence is great DenverJared Mar 2020 #27
Yeah, I noticed that too bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #28
Trump doesn't care C_U_L8R Mar 2020 #30
Don't get mad,run a thousand commercials of Trump doing just that......... Bengus81 Mar 2020 #33
Have you ever noticed the way he treats ALL the Black female reporters ? Haggis for Breakfast Mar 2020 #35
Yamich was asking trump about a statement he made Gothmog Mar 2020 #36
The sick fuck at the bottom of the cess pool who's personally Cha Mar 2020 #38
k&r BSdetect Mar 2020 #39
A toddler. Ta da! That's who! Brainfodder Mar 2020 #41
K & R & Retweeted! SunSeeker Mar 2020 #43
A Newtonian liar JHB Mar 2020 #44
When Trump says 'that's a nasty question' it means you've caught him, and his only path AtheistCrusader Mar 2020 #45
So, true. nt iluvtennis Mar 2020 #46
Lying is Chump's native language. He knows no other languages. Hassler Mar 2020 #47
Just remember npk Mar 2020 #48
He will claim the videos were altered. The MAGA clowns will believe him. kairos12 Mar 2020 #50
This kind, Lawrence -- The Devil. ancianita Mar 2020 #52
 

winetourdriver01

(1,154 posts)
1. Lies
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:27 PM
Mar 2020

What kind of liar? One with serious and pervasive personality disorders. He should NEVER have been allowed near the levers of power. The republican/fascist party will pay for their greed and racism.

Ahpook

(2,749 posts)
31. I wouldn't have been able to contain myself
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:05 PM
Mar 2020

He would have eaten a word salad of every vulgarity I could spit out before being thrown out.

Fuck this rat fucking asshole! So sick of this.

sop

(10,146 posts)
5. It's positively Cheney-esque. Lying taken to a whole new level, without any hint of pretense.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:46 PM
Mar 2020

"We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do." (from Ron Suskind interview)

sop

(10,146 posts)
34. You're correct. The quote from the NYTimes Magazine article (Oct. 17, 2004) was originally
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:16 PM
Mar 2020

unattributed. Suskind said it was from a highly-placed official, and it represented the philosophy of the entire Bush administration. Most thought at the time it was Cheney, later it was revealed to be Rove.

DENVERPOPS

(8,806 posts)
49. Karl Rove, another supreme asshole I had almost forgotten about
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:02 PM
Mar 2020

There are Soooooo many of them, an ever growing, massive group.....

Cabal has become my favorite word to perfectly describe what the entire Republican Party has proudly become…...………

cabal: the contrived schemes of a group of persons secretly united in a plot (as to overturn a government)

I know Trump broadcasts that HE only uses the “Best” words…..

Cabal is the most perfect, beautiful “BEST” word for describing Trump and the entire Republican Party…….

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
8. Remember the 'Draft Day' movie?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:50 PM
Mar 2020

The all stud QB had the balls to lie about the first lie to cover it up... Yea, good one guys.

Maybe reporters need to start their questions with:

'We live in a whole different world than we did fifteen minutes ago... What is your plan to protect healthcare workers and stop the rapid spread of COVID-19 across every town in the U.S.?'

'We live in a different world than we did five minutes ago... What is your administration's plan to recover from the initial lack of response?'

'Whoa, this is a new day and an entirely different world the United States is facing on their own front doors... How do you plan to stop this virus?'

Force him to come up with the answer, instead of begging him for it. He wants to say this is something we have never faced, then run into his BS statements and he will collapse.

procon

(15,805 posts)
9. He lies because:
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:52 PM
Mar 2020

1) He doesn't care who knows he's lying


2) His zombie followers don't care if he lies


3) Few reporters challenge his lies


4). He will steamroll over anyone who questions his lies

Aussie105

(5,374 posts)
25. Don't call it 'steamrolling'.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:36 PM
Mar 2020

Call it what it is:
Bullying, avoiding the questions, degrading the person asking.

I always wondered why others don't stand up, and ask the same questions.

Might get an answer, or Trump may go down with blood pouring from his ears.

Either response is acceptable.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
51. Unfortunately, he has intimidated the reporters into silence. They fear being blackballed.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 06:22 PM
Mar 2020

I used to have admiration for the reporters who challenged administrations and held them accountable. Very few of the present lot have the balls to challenge this monstrosity. Trump knows this and takes advantage of these wishy-washy spineless fakes.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
12. Donald Trump is an idiot and an ass hat.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 08:22 PM
Mar 2020

I will not say anything that might earn me a visit from the Secret Service, but for he and his miserable progeny I wish nothing but misfortune and public humiliation.

#notmypresident

RESIST

Warpy

(111,237 posts)
13. You answered your own question.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 08:34 PM
Mar 2020

The "pathological" part signifies someone for whom lying is part of an underlying disease, he'll lie about things even when the truth would serve him and everybody around him much better.

He is a malignant narcissist. They lie because they are driven to say whatever will make them feel better in any given situation. They are often incapable of telling the truth if it will either make them look less than omniscient and omnipotent or especially if it takes the focus off them and their fantasy accomplishments.

I just wonder how bad this is going to get before somebody gets him out of there.

NBachers

(17,098 posts)
20. His rabid followers are just gleeful with joy about this. It's owning the libs, with no consequences
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:02 PM
Mar 2020

for him. He's got free reign to get away with it as long as he wants.

dchill

(38,465 posts)
26. Yep. He convinces himself of everything...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:39 PM
Mar 2020

...he says. Even things that are diametrically opposed. No one could have foreseen...

Aussie105

(5,374 posts)
22. Once this pandemic is over,
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:28 PM
Mar 2020

sometime in 2021 or beyond, and the survivors look around, will they be able to clearly see it need not have been such a disaster?

Will they know who to blame?

Will there be repercussions, of the magnitude of post WW2 in Italy?

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Hidden the picture because it is gruesome. not suitable for the squeamish.

Just replace XXXXX with https if you want to see it, or just go to that wikipedia page


quakerboy

(13,918 posts)
23. The kind who has never in his life been held to account
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:31 PM
Mar 2020

Why wouldn't he lie? It has literally always worked out for him to do so in the past. He has absolutely no reason not to lie, based on his life experience.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
28. Yeah, I noticed that too
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:49 PM
Mar 2020

Trump is totally about altering his present reality to make himself feel good about himself in the present moment. I have known a few people like that. They expend tremendous mental energy to maintain their self-talk and positive vision about themselves, but then the downside is that at another point they must flush the suppressed negativity. This comes in the angry tweets, but I've also seen it in cynical views of everything and everyone. If you ask about something they said at a later time, they deny it, it just never happened. It's self-deception, but is frustrating for others to whom the reality of facts and figures matter.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
35. Have you ever noticed the way he treats ALL the Black female reporters ?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:26 PM
Mar 2020

He must be terrified of our strong, intelligent Black Sisters !!! He turns into a two year old in their presence.

Cha

(297,110 posts)
38. The sick fuck at the bottom of the cess pool who's personally
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 05:28 AM
Mar 2020

perpetrated the trumpVirus on America

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
45. When Trump says 'that's a nasty question' it means you've caught him, and his only path
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:42 PM
Mar 2020

is admitting a lie or mistake, or some sort of failing.

He can't. He's pathologically unable to admit even the slightest weakness.

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