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getagrip_already

(14,708 posts)
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:16 PM Mar 2020

usns comfort being slow walked....

It hasn't made much progress. It seems to be doing 10 knots during the day (should be doint 15-20), but appears to have not made way overnight. A ship like that should almost be to new york by now. It is still off the coast of virginia.

What gives? Why the slow walk? It seems intentional.

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usns comfort being slow walked.... (Original Post) getagrip_already Mar 2020 OP
Damn! If it's intentional, then it's criminal. dhol82 Mar 2020 #1
That's a long list. gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #3
There are several current scenarios I would lump into the criminal dewsgirl Mar 2020 #26
Wasn't it in drydock for maintenance/repairs when Trump first boasted he was sending it? RockRaven Mar 2020 #2
That would make sense ... do what you can while at sea, making for a shorter delay ... (nt) mr_lebowski Mar 2020 #4
Maintenance yes benld74 Mar 2020 #13
Yeah. I don't think it was drydock-level maintenance, 'cause that would have been... JHB Mar 2020 #19
The position fix off of Virginia is over 21 hours old. Yonnie3 Mar 2020 #5
Thank you, glad to see it is moving along after all Amishman Mar 2020 #28
I don't believe it's out there for COVID-19 cases, anyway. DinahMoeHum Mar 2020 #6
thats what they said... getagrip_already Mar 2020 #9
It also helps lessen the chances that a non-covid patient who needs hospitalization.. Princess Turandot Mar 2020 #18
Yes, that's the plan, Dinah...but I don't understand how anybody thinks the virus won't somehow Leghorn21 Mar 2020 #22
Wouldn't be surprised if Chump sent orders that USNS Comfort Totally Tunsie Mar 2020 #7
Just so. dhol82 Mar 2020 #10
or maybe it turned off ais? getagrip_already Mar 2020 #8
One shore AIS fix about 12 hours ago off Atlantic City Yonnie3 Mar 2020 #14
Interesting article on USNI News KY_EnviroGuy Mar 2020 #11
Scheduled to arrive tomorrow ramblin_dave Mar 2020 #12
Thanks for the link. Yonnie3 Mar 2020 #17
It's Got To Arrive In New York At A Prime Time So Trump.... global1 Mar 2020 #15
It's expected to arrive tomorrow and be online on Tuesday... Princess Turandot Mar 2020 #16
Sound like it mercuryblues Mar 2020 #20
Here's where it is right now canetoad Mar 2020 #21
As a former Sailor I felt the need to sign up and post about this. SoCal Roomba Mar 2020 #23
Thank you... and welcome to DU. lamp_shade Mar 2020 #24
Thank you 👍 Raine Mar 2020 #25
Thank you. murielm99 Mar 2020 #27
Great post Shipmate maxrandb Mar 2020 #29
I Expect You Are Right, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #30

RockRaven

(14,959 posts)
2. Wasn't it in drydock for maintenance/repairs when Trump first boasted he was sending it?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:21 PM
Mar 2020

Then the send-off was used as a Trump PR stunt. Lord knows if the ship was even ready to be put into service.

Is the ship even capable of it's normal speed? Are they still performing maintenance while it is en route (i.e. going slower on purpose to give them time to finish what needs to be done before arriving in NYC)?

JHB

(37,158 posts)
19. Yeah. I don't think it was drydock-level maintenance, 'cause that would have been...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:11 PM
Mar 2020

...much harder to turn around, but it was definitely on downtime.

I think the big question here is "does it have its medical crew?"

if it was rushed back into active service, that's a pretty big question. 'Cause if the answer's "no", then it's just a bunch of beds.

Yonnie3

(17,431 posts)
5. The position fix off of Virginia is over 21 hours old.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:24 PM
Mar 2020

It is likely that is has been out of range of the shore stations and is well up the Eastern Seaboard at this time.

Edit to add: vesselfinder.com has a 12 hour old position of 38.8811 N / 73.91034 W which is about 40 miles off shore from Atlantic City NJ

Amishman

(5,555 posts)
28. Thank you, glad to see it is moving along after all
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 06:13 AM
Mar 2020

The crew question is big though, I'd love to see an answer for that too

DinahMoeHum

(21,783 posts)
6. I don't believe it's out there for COVID-19 cases, anyway.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:26 PM
Mar 2020

Navy hospital ships are designed to handle military and massive trauma injuries, as well as other cases regular ships' sick bays can't handle. They're really not designed to handle pandemics.

I think the hospital ships are out there to handle all other cases the shoreside hospitals are dealing with, thereby making more shoreside beds available specifically for the COVID-19 cases.





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getagrip_already

(14,708 posts)
9. thats what they said...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:32 PM
Mar 2020

It would handle non-covid patients only. But it frees up a lot of regular hospittal and icu beds that can be shifted to covid patients.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
18. It also helps lessen the chances that a non-covid patient who needs hospitalization..
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:00 PM
Mar 2020

..won't get the virus as a door prize, so to speak.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
22. Yes, that's the plan, Dinah...but I don't understand how anybody thinks the virus won't somehow
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:46 PM
Mar 2020

be brought into the ship, I honestly don’t - people will be coming and going, bringing patients and supplies - the odds of remaining COVID-free would seem to be minimal at best.

But hey, I hope I’m wrong and that this great ship and her people soothe and comfort many a distressed patient’s brow!!!

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
7. Wouldn't be surprised if Chump sent orders that USNS Comfort
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:27 PM
Mar 2020

isn't to pull into port until he can be on hand to greet and welcome them to NY. Everything is just a photo op to him.

getagrip_already

(14,708 posts)
8. or maybe it turned off ais?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:30 PM
Mar 2020

I didn't notice the timestamp, but I do watch marinetraffic often (I have a fishing boat I take way past where they are) and satellites will pick up positions when they are out of vhf range.

Maybe they are further along. It's possible. But they should still be picked up by ais receivers.

Yonnie3

(17,431 posts)
14. One shore AIS fix about 12 hours ago off Atlantic City
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:46 PM
Mar 2020

I don't pay to get the satellite data as my interests are all close to shore

vesselfinder.com was my source

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
11. Interesting article on USNI News
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:36 PM
Mar 2020
USNS Comfort Will Depart for New York on Saturday with XXXXX, Modly in Attendance
By: Megan Eckstein
March 26, 2020 7:36 PM

Read here: https://news.usni.org/2020/03/26/usns-comfort-departs-for-new-york-on-saturday-with-trump-modly-in-attendance

(snip)
Comfort will not take on infected patients but will rather care for patients with other needs – emergency surgeries, trauma care and more – to free up beds and doctors at New York hospitals so they can deal with the virus.

It's possible New York is still preparing a suitable berth for her in port for receiving those type patients.

KY.............

global1

(25,241 posts)
15. It's Got To Arrive In New York At A Prime Time So Trump....
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:50 PM
Mar 2020

can take another bow as it's arrival is shown on TV.

He's got an election to win ya know!!!!

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
16. It's expected to arrive tomorrow and be online on Tuesday...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 10:52 PM
Mar 2020

According to USA Today, the area where it will be docked, one of the Manhattan Cruise Terminal piers on the Hudson River in midtown, required some extra dredging over the weekend to accommodate it. Perhaps that had something to do with the timing.

BTW The ship isn't going to be used for covid-19 patients. It will be used as an overflow facility for people requiring hospitalizations for other medical reasons.

SoCal Roomba

(44 posts)
23. As a former Sailor I felt the need to sign up and post about this.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:57 AM
Mar 2020

Those ships rarely leave port as they aren’t used much.

This one was undergoing some repairs, the crew would never slow play an underway movement, no matter what POTUS suggests.

The Navy just doesn’t work that way.

It’s more than likely not ready for sea yet, and they are being safe. And believe it or not, Trump probably told them to get underway and make it work. Yeah, sometimes bat shit crazy works. Somehow.

The Mercy is already ported in LA. Granted, it’s a much shorter trek.

Believe me, the Sailors on that boat want to get to NYC to help out.

Besides, these ships are only going to be used for people that don’t have symptoms. Not that they shouldn’t hurry, but you don’t want it to be stuck out at sea either.

Relax. This isn’t some nefarious plan by Trump. It’s more than likely an abundance of caution. The Navy treats every vessel the same.

maxrandb

(15,320 posts)
29. Great post Shipmate
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 07:18 AM
Mar 2020

They pulled it out of its maintenance availability. More than likely they deferred required work to a later date.

It might be limited in speed due to limitations on stressing the propulsion plants.

As you said, barring any unforeseen issue, they will make their scheduled berthing in NYC on time.

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