Germany could issue thousands of people CV 'immunity certificates' so they can leave lockdown

[Dennis Donovan]

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-germany-covid-19-immunity-certificates-testing-social-distancing-lockdown-2020-3

Adam Bienkov 4 hours ago

Germans could soon be issued "immunity certificates" that would allow them to leave the country's coronavirus lockdown earlier than the rest of the population if they test positive for antibodies to the virus.

States across Germany are in lockdown, with strict quarantines imposed in some parts of the country.

However, researchers at the Helmholtz Centre for Infection Research in Braunschweig want to send out hundreds of thousands of antibody tests over the coming weeks that could allow people to break free of the lockdowns, Der Spiegel reported on Friday.

If the project is approved, the researchers will test 100,000 people at a time starting in early April, Der Spiegel said.

The tests are designed to detect whether a person has developed antibodies to the COVID-19 virus, indicating that they were at one time a carrier and may have built up immunity.

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[Proud Liberal Dem]

1. They are well ahead of where we are

This is basically what will have to happen here to "re-start the economy" as long as the science is sound on immunity/re-infection.

[blitzen]

2. Cuomo, last week, was saying this is the way to go. n/t

[dewsgirl]

3. K and R great idea.

[dalton99a]

4. China has been using a QR-based "health code" - Green means you're ok and can move freely:

[RockRaven]

5. I realize the suggestion that people wear badges is a fraught subject, especially in Germany,

but a visual indicator, which can be seen from a few meters away, would be better than a certificate.

How else will people/officials know that the person is legitimately certified without having to violate social distancing rules (and take on the risk that goes with that) to check the certificate?

[TheBlackAdder]

6. Jim Cramer was well ahead of Germany, but with a slight Republican twist!

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Travis Akers
@travisakers
·
Mar 23
While discussing testing people for COVID-19, Jim Cramer just said, "maybe we have to give people a star, as they do in other countries."

Wow, @CNBC
... wow.


Shannon *WASH YOUR HANDS*
@jodfoster
Replying to
@travisakers
and
@CNBC
Why stop there. Why not add some kind of tracking number, maybe in the form of a tattoo?

Link to tweet

I don't get this guy's appeal. Buy right before the 2008 collapse.

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[ProfessorGAC]

9. His One Redeeming Quality

When he was on the show with Ludlow, he was the smart one.
I know, that's a very low bar.

[Yavin4]

15. Yes. Craemer was the one that didn't do coke. n/t

[ProfessorGAC]

16. He's Also Not Wrong...

...about EVERYTHING!
A lot of stuff, but not everything.

[MH1]

7. Sounds good, until "coronavirus parties" start again.

There will be some young (and maybe not so young but stupider) "invincibles" who want to rush the process so they can get their lives back to normal. Then some of them get sick and end up taking resources needed by people who caught the virus without trying.

Without a police state, and even then, it is not completely possible to stop people who WANT to be infected. This program would make it more desirable to tempt fate.

Okay all me a doomsayer or negative nelly or whatever, I just can see how this could go horribly wrong if started too soon.

But yeah, I was actually thinking something similar, until my inherent negativity kicked in.

[rickford66]

8. Good idea but ...

such a person can still pick up virus on themselves from the environment and redeposit it. So they would still have to abide by the rules for everyone else.

[tavernier]

10. Those darned Germans showing off...

I bet they even make them learn science and stuff in school.

[Igel]

12. It's not a new idea, by any means.

As other posts upthread show.

In fact, some "get the economy moving again" suggestions going back weeks boil down to this, but you have read more than the 280-character summary from the writer's opponent. If you just read the oppo summary then obviously it can't work.

What makes it possible--besides having been positive on COVID tests and then recovered--is antibody tests that have come out in the last week or so and which are entering production about now.

[tavernier]

13. I was just being a smart ass.

[roamer65]

11. We don't know how long the immunity lasts yet.

Premature decision by the Germans if they do it.

I can see taking immunes as volunteers to help take care of other COVID patients, though.

[LAS14]

14. I'm counting on something like this so I can hug my grandkids again.

Oh, wait! I'd have to catch COVID-19 to get the certificate. Hmmm.... the plan is to be among the 30% who never get it. Drat!

[usedtobedemgurl]

17. Questions....

I thought people could be reinfected?

If they cannot be reinfected, could they get the virus and just spread it?