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(52,116 posts)
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:21 PM Mar 2020

imagine if hillary were president.

this still would have been a disaster. no doubt hillary would have listened to the experts and been way ahead of the curve. no need to claim perfection; even allowing for mistakes, there's plenty of room for her to have been way better than donnie.

we would have moved early to have a big supply of equipment, hospital personnel and beds and so on, and she would have recommended testing, quarantining, and so on way earlier than donnie. plus, she wouldn't have had any trade war nonsense to complicate issues.

that said, we still would have had a major health disaster. worse, we *still* would have had republicans and foxnews and hate radio blaming obama, blaming hillary, calling for investigations, and lying left and right. we *still* would have had a ton of non-compliance from red state governors and people. we *still* would have had a ton of people insisting it was all hype.

they would have been calling hillary a jack-booted thug imposing trying to stamp out their freedom.

which means we would have had more of a mess than any other country *even with great leadership*.


the political and social problems in this country run far deeper than just donnie.

we need to get rid of him in november, but bear in mind, getting rid of him is *only* one small part of the problem.

we have a long, long way to go before we can regain reliable control of the country's narrative.

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Moostache

(9,895 posts)
1. The right would be accusing her of hiding the cure from them...
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:25 PM
Mar 2020

in her e-mails!

OK, not that funny attempt at gallows humor...

But I could guarantee you she would be under withering attack from the right for all of this in ways that Trump is STILL getting a pass form the Democratic Party on.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
2. Nah, if HIllary was hoarding PPE and ventilators to sell for personal profit, nobody would care
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:26 PM
Mar 2020

This is madness, our system is gone, done.

Putin and Bannon got what they wanted, who knows if they will survive though.

Millions will die BECAUSE of rump...BECAUSE of him.


obviously my comment in reply title is sarcasm, if ONE person died from it the media and right would CRUCIFY her, if she kept it to a minimum as OBAMA actually did, they would still CRUCIFY her.

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(52,116 posts)
3. just imagine republicans stalling and obstructing the stimulus
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:28 PM
Mar 2020

remember how much they whined about obama's early great recession stimulus?

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
10. This is why we cant go forward as a nation...
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 02:02 PM
Mar 2020

Idiots will continue to vote for the reps who are trying to kill them.

We cant do much without control over all of the government.

The virus is one thing, a political party doing everything in its power to make the virus STRONGER and more deadly, is too much...

Millions are gonna die.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
4. If HRC were President, the 97th hearing on Benghazi and her emails would be happening now.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:29 PM
Mar 2020

If HRC were President, McConnell would still be holding that SCOTUS-seat open.

If HRC were President, the Republicans would have tried to impeach her over her emails.

If HRC were President, the Senate-backlog would be way, way bigger than just 300 bills.

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(52,116 posts)
8. indeed. they would be actively interfering with any solution
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:40 PM
Mar 2020

they would have already impeached her over email/benghazi/whatever, and failed, and they would have insisted that as an impeached president she lacked the moral authority to tell "real americans" to stay in their houses.

so republicans would have done everything they can to make it worse, as usual.

and then blamed it all on democrats. again, as usual.

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
7. We would be miles and miles better, but...
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 01:37 PM
Mar 2020

...my fear would be right-wing nut jobs activating militias and open defiance to law enforcement because no female Democrat is going to tell them what to do. Major amplification of end-of-times.

Drifter

(4,751 posts)
11. They would have tried ...
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 02:07 PM
Mar 2020

to impeach her by the end of January. Republicans would still have turned this into an unmitigated clusterfuck.

Cheers
Drifter

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(52,116 posts)
12. my point exactly. donnie is merely the most obvious symptom of the disease.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 02:08 PM
Mar 2020

there's a lot more to solving our nation's problems than just getting rid of donnie.

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