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DOJ turns over unredacted Mueller Report to Judge Walton (Original Post) NewJeffCT Mar 2020 OP
Barr must go! Roland99 Mar 2020 #1
Yes NewJeffCT Mar 2020 #3
Get thee to the greatest page malaise Mar 2020 #2
Effff yeah. Zoonart Mar 2020 #11
This should be fun, fun, fun DonaldsRump Mar 2020 #4
K&R spanone Mar 2020 #5
Kick SheltieLover Mar 2020 #6
K & R democrank Mar 2020 #7
That's about a day late and a dollar short Walleye Mar 2020 #8
I want to see!! Glimmer of Hope Mar 2020 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author MartyTheGreek Mar 2020 #13
talk about burying it in a news dump. unblock Mar 2020 #10
I bet the only reason they even released it NewJeffCT Mar 2020 #15
Yep. I think that's a VERY safe bet. calimary Mar 2020 #55
It did occur to me that it was just this month soldierant Mar 2020 #67
💯 live love laugh Mar 2020 #77
Hell yeah!!! Dennis Donovan Mar 2020 #12
Was a wondering!!! bluestarone Mar 2020 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author SunSeeker Mar 2020 #19
Doesn't sound like just two pages; where are you getting that? lastlib Mar 2020 #29
No, that's not what the filing says at all. PSPS Mar 2020 #32
So the Wheels of Justice are still turning even under National and Global Pandemic? MartyTheGreek Mar 2020 #16
Dark state. That's the ticket! dchill Mar 2020 #50
I'm being sarcastic. MartyTheGreek Mar 2020 #52
I know. Exactly. dchill Mar 2020 #60
Never thought I would live to see this. dewsgirl Mar 2020 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author SunSeeker Mar 2020 #20
No, the filing doesn't say that at all. The headline is accurate. PSPS Mar 2020 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author SunSeeker Mar 2020 #18
Maybe Judge will be very fucking PISSED? bluestarone Mar 2020 #21
No. Read the filing. The two pages were in addition to the full unredacted Mueller Report. PSPS Mar 2020 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author SunSeeker Mar 2020 #61
Reaad the filing! It's right there! Jeesh! PSPS Mar 2020 #62
Incorrect. Mike Niendorff Mar 2020 #70
Wo!!! There is other stuff happening in the world. nt LAS14 Mar 2020 #22
Sounds like someone needs some CYA in the DOJ. Can't wait to see where else the unredacted goes. ancianita Mar 2020 #23
I suspect Mueller made a copy of his full report. Lock him up. Mar 2020 #38
Sure, we always hope there's an unredacted copy, but no one in the FBI would leak it, since ancianita Mar 2020 #40
IF he made a copy and hid it in a (secret) safe, a Dem administration (new AG) could... Lock him up. Mar 2020 #45
Wouldn't need to. Mueller would walk right up and hand it to the new president, with cameras ancianita Mar 2020 #48
Will Judge Walton make it public? la-trucker Mar 2020 #24
This doesn't matter anymore - he was stone cold guilty before this. Loge23 Mar 2020 #25
there are a lot of leads not followed. glossary of mueller report redacts 'hannity' certainot Mar 2020 #75
Two pages? My copy of the Mueller report has more black lines than that. BarbD Mar 2020 #26
It's not "two pages." Ready the filing. It's the full Mueller report plus two other pages. PSPS Mar 2020 #36
Ah, thanks. I'm relieved. ancianita Mar 2020 #42
Big News! Good News! . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #27
Yeah Gothmog Mar 2020 #28
TITLE SHOULD READ: DOJ turns over 2 PAGES of unredacted Mueller Report to Judge Walton spanone Mar 2020 #30
I don't see where it says that. PSPS Mar 2020 #31
here... spanone Mar 2020 #37
Yes, that's showing what I quoted. There are two "records" involved ordered 3/5 and 3/16 PSPS Mar 2020 #44
Yes - that is two records NewJeffCT Mar 2020 #46
Yep. Duppers Mar 2020 #47
Two Records means NewJeffCT Mar 2020 #53
Thank you for helping clarify here. Mike Niendorff Mar 2020 #72
He'd only do that if he thought it didn't matter anymore. defacto7 Mar 2020 #35
I don't think traitor barr has a choice. Lock him up. Mar 2020 #39
Good point if it holds. defacto7 Mar 2020 #76
Kick & recommended. William769 Mar 2020 #41
Like this is going to make any difference now. progressoid Mar 2020 #43
It will. It's a well investigated context for the SDNY's waiting indictments on Trump. ancianita Mar 2020 #49
Please release it to the public - Stay at Home reading material. nt iluvtennis Mar 2020 #51
The 'Process' grinds on. empedocles Mar 2020 #54
Somebody Needs To Update Me - Why Did Judge Walton Request This And What Is He Going To Do..... global1 Mar 2020 #56
Here is a good summary BumRushDaShow Mar 2020 #59
Thanks, BumRushDaShow! nt crickets Mar 2020 #68
What do you think the likelyhood is stopdiggin Mar 2020 #57
He has not been a big fan of Team Trump NewJeffCT Mar 2020 #63
same page, almost 100% (nt) stopdiggin Mar 2020 #71
The is no fn reason why this report of a special prosecutor should be kept from Congress Thomas Hurt Mar 2020 #58
It's required by law NewJeffCT Mar 2020 #64
They must be ready to shitcan trump coeur_de_lion Mar 2020 #65
This is big news!!!! marble falls Mar 2020 #66
K&R for visibility. crickets Mar 2020 #69
Here we go... dlk Mar 2020 #73
What I am certain of is if there is a way to NOT turn it over in it's entirety, as in nobody Eliot Rosewater Mar 2020 #74

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
3. Yes
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 03:04 PM
Mar 2020

maybe DOJ thought the 24/7 media coverage of coronavirus would allow them to slip under the radar?

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
4. This should be fun, fun, fun
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 03:05 PM
Mar 2020

Judge Reggie slammed DoJ and Barr, and it will be interesting what he says after receiving the full report.

Response to Glimmer of Hope (Reply #9)

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
15. I bet the only reason they even released it
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 03:13 PM
Mar 2020

was that they figured it would get overshadowed by 24/7 coronavirus and associated Trump meltdowns

calimary

(81,210 posts)
55. Yep. I think that's a VERY safe bet.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:59 PM
Mar 2020

EVERYTHING anybody in this mal-administration does - has an ulterior motive attached. NOTHING is what they say it is. I would say that should be the default position from which all of America takes in anything this SOILED White House says, does, offers, or claims.

ALWAYS get a second opinion on these devious manipulative schmucks.

soldierant

(6,846 posts)
67. It did occur to me that it was just this month
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 07:20 PM
Mar 2020

that Barr dropped all charges in all the cases Mueller had initiated while working on the report and his investigation.

That means one thing he can no longer stonewall on is information related to any "ongoog invrstigation."

But that does not contradict your theory, not a bit. At most it makes it even ore pre-meditated.

Response to bluestarone (Reply #14)

MartyTheGreek

(565 posts)
16. So the Wheels of Justice are still turning even under National and Global Pandemic?
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 03:13 PM
Mar 2020

Are these the White Hats making a strong play against the real dark state?

Is this a good sign? How much can be shared, if any, with the public? What's the backstory? Ok, RTFM, I know! Good news though!

Response to dewsgirl (Reply #17)

Response to NewJeffCT (Original post)

Response to PSPS (Reply #34)

Mike Niendorff

(3,459 posts)
70. Incorrect.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 07:40 PM
Mar 2020

There were two orders referenced here -- one for the full unredacted Mueller report, and one for two specific pages.

This document production is to comply with BOTH orders.

And yes, the wording gets confusing for non-legal readers, but please read it again before repeating this incorrect "only two pages" claim.


MDN



ancianita

(36,023 posts)
23. Sounds like someone needs some CYA in the DOJ. Can't wait to see where else the unredacted goes.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 03:28 PM
Mar 2020

Eventually.

Lock him up.

(6,925 posts)
38. I suspect Mueller made a copy of his full report.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:13 PM
Mar 2020

I HOPE Mueller made a copy of his full report (and the GJ materials) and hid it in a safe place, so the Dem administration in late January 2021 will have access to it, if there's any trace of real JUSTICE left.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
40. Sure, we always hope there's an unredacted copy, but no one in the FBI would leak it, since
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:19 PM
Mar 2020

the DOJ would fire them.

I'd love for some major journalist to get their hands on it, though, through some plain brown envelope delivery.

Lock him up.

(6,925 posts)
45. IF he made a copy and hid it in a (secret) safe, a Dem administration (new AG) could...
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:30 PM
Mar 2020

... have access to it from late January 2021, but it's a big IF. There's a way to restore real Justice and it's long overdue. No more looking forward by giving the criminals & their co-conspirators another pass.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
48. Wouldn't need to. Mueller would walk right up and hand it to the new president, with cameras
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:33 PM
Mar 2020

lighting up all around.

It would light up the news cycle for a week.

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
25. This doesn't matter anymore - he was stone cold guilty before this.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 03:30 PM
Mar 2020

There's nothing to see here, Barr will make sure of that.
Our ire needs to remain on Barr and the Senate GOP for being the co-conspirators in this crime wave.
Let's face it, even if there was incontrovertible evidence of the crimes would it really matter to the accomplices or their supporters?

We're screwed as we all knew it back in 2016. That situation just gets worse every day.
We all know that they will use the COVID-19 crisis as cover for this anyway.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
75. there are a lot of leads not followed. glossary of mueller report redacts 'hannity'
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 11:16 PM
Mar 2020

and why?

he's mentioned incidentally in the report in terms of media interviews of targets and his name should be listed in the glossary but the name between graf and hawker is redacted. most of the few redactions in the glossary relate to long time talk radio operators - roger stone and jerome corsi

why was 'hannity' redacted? was it a signal from redactors that a lot of had to do with talk radio?

putin has been using limbaugh/hannity since at least 2008

if reporters and dem investigators stopped ignoring the most important political weapon the last 30 years and ask sam nunberg, for instance, why trump paid him to listen to 1000s of hours of talk radio in 2014 and how it might relate to russian trolling ops, a reporter could get a real story

PSPS

(13,590 posts)
31. I don't see where it says that.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 03:59 PM
Mar 2020

It says "two records" were turned over.

1. "The Unredacted version of the Mueller Report"
2. "Unredacted copies of the final two pages of its October 10, 2019 production" (this is a different item entirely)

It goes on, "Counsel hand-delivered two paper copies and one electronic copy of the two records at issue to chanbers."

PSPS

(13,590 posts)
44. Yes, that's showing what I quoted. There are two "records" involved ordered 3/5 and 3/16
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:27 PM
Mar 2020

"Record" is not a "page."

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
46. Yes - that is two records
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:30 PM
Mar 2020

Record 1 is the unredacted copy of the Mueller Report

Record 2 is the unredacted copy of the final two pages of its 10/10/19 Production to the court. The actual Mueller Report was released in April of 2019.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
53. Two Records means
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:56 PM
Mar 2020

Record 1 is the unredacted Mueller Report
Record 2 is the unredacted final two pages of what was presented to the Court on 10/10/19 (the Mueller Report was released in April of 2019)

Mike Niendorff

(3,459 posts)
72. Thank you for helping clarify here.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 07:46 PM
Mar 2020

Looks like this false "only two pages" claim made it into this thread in about a half dozen places.

Correcting this misinformation is important.

Thank you for taking the time to help keep this thread accurate.


MDN

Lock him up.

(6,925 posts)
39. I don't think traitor barr has a choice.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 04:18 PM
Mar 2020

It's either obey the Court Order or get charged of Criminal Court Contempt (that could extend to next year... or any Pardon involves Admission of Guilt).

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
76. Good point if it holds.
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 11:18 PM
Mar 2020

In the real world that makes sense. I'm just not convinced we live in the real world where law and guilt really matter anymore. The world I see looming is one where all that matters is what you can manipulate to circumvent rule of law. I hope you're right though.

global1

(25,241 posts)
56. Somebody Needs To Update Me - Why Did Judge Walton Request This And What Is He Going To Do.....
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 05:07 PM
Mar 2020

with it?

I haven't kept up with this and am in the dark as to the significance of this event.

stopdiggin

(11,295 posts)
57. What do you think the likelyhood is
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 05:19 PM
Mar 2020

that the judge here will rule against the "classification" of redacted material? Serious question.
There is, of course, no chance at all that he would release an unredacted report to the public.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
63. He has not been a big fan of Team Trump
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 06:04 PM
Mar 2020

since the beginning - I think he's the one that asked why Mike Flynn wasn't being charged with treason.

I think he will overrule DOJ and said it can be released to Leopold/Buzzfeed and EPIC - DOJ will appeal to get the whole court to review and that could delay it further.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
58. The is no fn reason why this report of a special prosecutor should be kept from Congress
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 05:25 PM
Mar 2020

other than a cover up. The christofascists were in the middle of their counter "investigations" see if this causes another round of bee ess to spew from McConnell, and Nunes.

Mueller caved when Barr came in and ran like a beat dog.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
64. It's required by law
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 06:17 PM
Mar 2020

to be turned over to Congress by a provision in the Patriot Act and another law as well. Per Neal Katyal, who wrote the special counsel laws

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
74. What I am certain of is if there is a way to NOT turn it over in it's entirety, as in nobody
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 09:29 PM
Mar 2020

would know or tell, that Mueller wouldn't go public, etc HE will do it.

Mueller wouldn't KNOW if they turned the whole thing over or not, anyway.

Barr is a criminal, he wont do anything properly unless forced and an order from a judge means nothing to him and these types.

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