Is this really what he's going? Could have had 2 million die so if we only lose 1 million

[captain queeg]

That’s a win? That might even work if only Dems and liberals died.

It’s on the home page I tried copying and pasting, but if you go to home it’s right there in top.

[Hoyt]

1. Quite clear. I believe CDC predicted up to 1.7 million deaths here.

[mobeau69]

2. He's in full panic mode. nt.

[TwilightZone]

3. 100,000 (not a million) would mean he did a "very good job"

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"Trump says keeping US Covid-19 deaths to 100,000 would be a ‘very good job’ "

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/30/trump-says-keeping-us-covid-19-deaths-to-100000-would-be-a-very-good-job

No, Trump, reacting appropriately would have been a very good job and would have slowed down the growth. Instead, we have a bunch of whackjobs who don't want to close states because reasons and more people are going to die as a result.

[Blue_true]

6. Don't dismiss that guy. He will lie and a vast number of americans

will convince themselves that he is telling the truth. So he can take results which should be horrible for him, lie about them and force us into a he said/she said contest to prove that he is an unfit liar, and a vast number of Americans will watch that and side with him.

[TwilightZone]

11. No doubt.

I've always been skeptical at the claims that his supporters are suddenly going to have an epiphany when people start dying in larger numbers. They're getting their news solely from Trump, Fox News, and other right-wing media, including social media. They'll just blame whatever else is handy, but anything or anyone but Trump.

[Turin_C3PO]

14. It's true

that we’ll never convince his base. But I believe a small number of right-leaning Independents that have critical thinking skills will be persuadable. If we peel off a number of them, we’re sitting pretty good for November.

[TwilightZone]

15. We already snagged some of them in 2018.

And Biden is up in the polls among independents and in "swing" counties. That's partly why his head-to-head lead, approaching double digits, is pretty significant at this point.

https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/documents/monmouthpoll_us_032420.pdf/

[Blue_true]

17. I agree with the point that you made. But we have to be skillful in making our

argument.

[Flaleftist]

4. No matter what the number is, he will claim it would have been 10 times worse if it wasn't for him.

[Blue_true]

7. Exactly. And HOW can that be disproven? He will put out lies that it is

impossible to disprove. My concern is that Fauci and Birx have joined in his deceiving of Americans.

[uponit7771]

12. +1

[John Fante]

5. 100k deaths would leave the United States alone at the top

in terms of mortality rate. There is NO way to spin that into a win, I don't care what Trump says.

[Blue_true]

8. He will try, and a lot of Americans will believe him.

And he will craft his lies in such a way that it will be impossible to fully expose him, so there will be room for a surburbanite to conclude that maybe he did do all that he could and didn't make any really serious mistakes.

[John Fante]

10. Nah. Trump is woefully unpopular in the suburbs already.

This isn't going help. His mediocre crisis bump is aleady fading.

The United States will likely have the highest COVID-19 death toll of any nation when this is over. That alone will be extremely difficult to sell as a victory. If we also top the world in per capita deaths - forget it. It will be the biggest preventable tragedy in the history of our nation.

[Blue_true]

18. We are going to have to work hard. The vast majority of the News Media is chickenshit, they will

swallow, then broadcast as fact, any lie that Trump and his henchpeople feed them.

[lunasun]

9. Worldwide is currently 37,815 total - if the US is 100k that is nothing to brag about

Claiming it’s less than 2.2 million like he said means nothing and not a win
China total with many more citizens is 3305 right now
And they seem past their peak although no one knows but

[ProfessorGAC]

13. Problem

I don't think the China number is believable. And, they're not going to come clean on the real numbers any time soon.

[Blue_true]

19. Exactly. nt

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

16. 100,000, 1 million, 5 million, whatever the number, ...

... Trump will have done a fantastic job, way better than Obama would have done, better than any president ever, better than any world leader anywhere.

You wouldn't believe what a great job he will have done.