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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUPS, FedEx, DHL still not wearing gloves.
Taking deliveries from all of the above and their companies are still not providing them with gloves, masks, sanitizer.
I get packages from China, Japan, Italy, Thailand almost every day. I have them placed on the floor and I spray them down with a 12% bleach solution and let sit for at least 5 minutes. UPS driver said they have petitioned the company to provide protection to no avail.
When I do get drivers wearing gloves, they tell me they had to purchase their own.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)Some from when my husband was going through chemo, and another batch I got when I had knee replacement.
I'm having a Fed-X package delivered today. I wonder if I should set out a box of gloves for him.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)madwivoter
(539 posts)Delivery driver had gloves on.
The package also required a signature (wine.com, lol) and he didn't require me to sign. I watched him go back to his truck, fill out a paper and carry on.
We have a small enclosed front porch, all deliveries are dropped there. We're mostly letting things sit for a few days unless there's a danger of freezing. If we need the package right away we're putting gloves on, opening the package out in the lawn and dropping all of the packaging in the recycling. We're also sanitizing everything that comes in (deliveries and groceries).
jmg257
(11,996 posts)That would be good - gloves to protect the skin disinfecting wipes to keep them clean.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)So, the driver is wearing gloves... so what? The driver still breathes on them, coughs on them, and wipes his face with them.
There's nothing magic about skin. Gloves are happy to carry the virus as well.
In what way would gloves prevent the driver from transmitting or picking up the virus.
Gloves can be PART of an entire protocol, but they do not possess some kind of magic.
janterry
(4,429 posts)though I do wear gloves when I go out now
Wool mittens (I knit). Plus I bought some cheap acrylic gloves from Walmart a few weeks ago for when the weather warms up.
I don't wear them because I think they protect me from the virus.
I DO wear them because I don't touch my face with gloves (and especially mittens) on. They remind me to stop that.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Yep. That's the primary utility.
But if you were out working all day long in them as a delivery driver, they'd just be another layer of skin pretty soon.
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)That's mainly how I am using them here at work. I work for a large pharma company.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Whether it's going to make a difference on delivery drivers, I have my doubts.
I would think that wearing gloves is a good idea for them merely because it provides a better grip on cardboard they are slinging around all day and doesn't dry out their hands.
ProfessorGAC
(64,867 posts)The commercially available brands are only 3-8%, depending on brand.
And CDC tested it at 1000 ppm. Got full kill at 5 minutes.
You sure you're using 12%?
Edited because I forgot something: industrial hypochlorite solutions are only made at 15%. The higher the concentration, the faster it decomposes to oxygen & salt. So, even bought bulk, by the time it's delivered its only 13.5-14%, even if it was just made the day before.
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)shortages of masks and gloves are obvious and it up to each one of us to safeguard ourselves. I put everything out in garage that I buy or receive and quarantine and wipe off before coming into our house. My wife is high risk.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,104 posts)guys wearing gloves and 95 masks.
Steelrolled
(2,022 posts)What is more clear is thinking about what you are doing, and if possible not touching delivered packages for a couple days.
ms liberty
(8,558 posts)Ground, FedEx Express, Home Delivery, Freight?
They are all different companies, and Ground is not corporate owned, they are similar to a franchisee. Ground does not have the stringent rules and regs that FedEx Express employees work under.
My husband works for Fed Ex Express. I have not consulted him about this post and he's the math whiz in the fam, so my info and numbers are not exact. The corporation changed procedures to limit contact with customers. Station rules have been adjusted. Power pad signature rules changed, even in strict signature required situations. His station did hand out hand sanitizer and disinfectant wipes as much as was possible...but all the asshats who have been hoarding have limited the ability to procure supplies, even for large companies.They have always had gloves, but they are not disposable. It would be ridiculous for them to use disposable gloves since to properly use them, they would have to change gloves every time they touched a package or their power pad, or anything else. My husband does about 80 to 100 stops per day, even now when many businesses are closed. So he would go through 160 to 200 pairs of gloves every day at the very least, because they're touching every package ar least two times, usually three if you count when they load their trucks in the morning. Here's an excercise in the math. Multiply 160 by 20 to 30 couriers in one station. Then multiply that by another 15 handlers and support personnel in one station. Then multiply that by let's say 200 or 250 to account for all the stations across the US, and air ramps, and the hubs where packages flow to be routed around the country. I'm using a number based on a station that is not in a large city, so it's probably a little under the actual. The per day number of disposable gloves that Fed Ex alone would need would leave none for anyone else. To add in UPS, multiply by say 2.5 or 3 times because UPS handles more packages.
Those gloves need to be going to hospitals, and nursing homes, and other caregivers.
You can help by doing what you're doing, and by being a decent human to your courier. Maintain your distancing protocols, bc your courier may be one who had a delivery to a hospital or other care facility, and as little as they want to, their job requires them to be out there on the front lines. They're not just out there delivering your new cell phone or Chewy.com order, they deliver critical supplies, and they also deliver meds to shut ins, to chemo patients and others in need that are totally separate from but also very vulnerable to this virus. You can help them not spread this around.
Another way you can help your local courier, now and in the future, is to make sure your address is prominently displayed using large numbers in an easy to read color that is in sharp contrast to the background they are mounted against. You would not believe how many people don't follow that simple rule, people you would expect to know better. It's also helpful to the emergency services personnel you might need to save your life someday.
I have several things about my husband's company that tick me (and him) off, but disposable gloves is not one of them.
crickets
(25,952 posts)If you really want to help out your mail carrier and delivery people, periodically wipe down your mailbox handle and lid along with the rim of the box. When you are cleaning the outside doorknob, clean on and around your doorbell. It couldn't hurt. Every bit we do to cut down germs at transmission points is a good thing for all of us.
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)I have employees keep wanting to close my doors and I tell them no, even when it's raining. Delivery people can come in without touching the handles, and I keep them sprayed down. I also pass out gloves and sanitizer to some of the drivers when I have extra.
crickets
(25,952 posts)Beaverhausen
(24,470 posts)💜Friends and families💜 PSA from your girl:
If youre wearing gloves in public to prevent Covid 19 exposure or spread: you have to change your gloves after you touch LITERALLY ANYTHING in public. Otherwise, it defeats the entire purpose of wearing gloves. This includes doors, keys, cars, bags, atm cards, atm machines, food, people, your shoes, your kids shoes, a counter, a water bottle etc. your best bet is to wash/sanitize (with sanitizer atleast 60% alcohol) your hands after touching anything and dont touch your face.🤷🏻♀️ may the force be with us all
cwydro
(51,308 posts)A lot of people here seem to think gloves are some sort of magic protection.
LisaL
(44,972 posts)Gives you some extra protection.