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CousinIT

(9,239 posts)
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 11:04 PM Mar 2020

MADDOW - Trump's deadly, bumbling HHS dropped the ball and walked away.



In addition to the ventilators HHS hasn't told them to send anywhere, DOD also has more than a dozen labs that could process COVID-19 tests. They offered the labs to HHS for civilian use **more than two weeks ago**. HHS never bothered to put them to use:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/31/politics/pentagon-ventilators/index.html




"HHS holding up delivery of 2,000 U.S. ventilators, Pentagon says" - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/hhs-holding-up-delivery-of-2000-u-s-ventilators-pentagon-says


Pentagon says it still hasn't sent ventilators because it hasn't been told where to send them

Washington (CNN)Despite having committed to transferring 2,000 ventilators in military stocks to the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Department of Health and Human Services to fight the coronavirus outbreak, the Pentagon has not shipped any of them because the agencies have not asked for them or provided a shipping location, the Pentagon's top logistics official said Tuesday.

In order to ship the badly needed equipment, the Defense Department has to be given a location to send them by civilian authorities who have to decide where the items are most needed.

"There was discussion with HHS on where to send them. And then they said hey wait, we're trying to take a look at the demand that's required, and so we were asked to just wait while there was just some sorting through on that. And I won't speak on behalf of them, but we were in a position to provide 2,000," said Lt. General Giovanni Tuck.

Tuck said he had no details on the HHS decisions, but added that "we haven't provided any, because as of last night, we were asked to just hold on the ones that we have, and then we will push them when they're ready for them."

He emphasized there are 1,000 ventilators fully ready to be shipped as soon as the Pentagon gets a destination of where to send them. The other 1,000 can also be assembled and shipped within days of getting the order he indicated.

The uncertainty comes as health experts continue to say there is a serious need for more respirators and ventilators to deal with the surge of coronavirus patients at hospitals across the country. Medical professionals have also asked for help related to testing for the virus but several days after Pentagon officials offered to assist in this area, it remains unclear if they have begun to do so.

Civilian Pentagon officials had repeatedly said they are making ventilators and five million N-95 respirator masks available. So far only 1.5 million masks have been shipped by the Pentagon. Another 500,000 are to be shipped within days.

But HHS and FEMA have given DoD no indication of when or where they precisely want the other three million items to go.


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Unclear if Pentagon has tested civilians

Additionally, it remains unclear if the Pentagon has tested any civilian patients for the virus more than two weeks after Esper said it had offered to do so.

"We are not maxing our capacity in our labs around the world," Joint Staff Surgeon Brig. Gen. Paul Friedrichs said at a Pentagon press conference last week, adding that the Defense Department is currently operating 16 labs capable of conducting the test.

US military is not conducting civilian coronavirus tests despite offering to more than a week ago

"We have not received an RFA, a request for assistance, from HHS that I'm aware of," he said. "But we do have capacity in some of our labs. We've identified that to HHS."
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MADDOW - Trump's deadly, bumbling HHS dropped the ball and walked away. (Original Post) CousinIT Mar 2020 OP
You know there are only so many face plants one's forehead can take Haggis for Breakfast Mar 2020 #1
FEMA said they never got a call from HHS underpants Mar 2020 #2
Hell of a job Alex exboyfil Mar 2020 #3
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #4
What dept in this admin hasn't fucked this up in some way? BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #5
+1000 ancianita Apr 2020 #16
Destroying the US economy and ability to react globally in the long run is probably the goal. cstanleytech Apr 2020 #17
I still beleive his and Putin's shared goal BigmanPigman Apr 2020 #18
Well the GOP does share alot of the same ideas as Putin. cstanleytech Apr 2020 #19
Trump got rid of anyone Obama hired. He replaced them with sycophants captain queeg Mar 2020 #6
I remember reading a story about Jared in the transition underpants Mar 2020 #14
All the adults have left the building. There is nobody home. Damn. nt crickets Mar 2020 #7
Those idiots are more concerned about pleasing Trump la-trucker Mar 2020 #8
We need to have Nuremberg style trials when this is all over. Initech Mar 2020 #9
I'm so glad she had that supply chain specialist Ilsa Mar 2020 #10
The DPA also allows for price control underpants Mar 2020 #13
So you're saying the guy who cut Epstein that amazing prosecution deal for his bullwinkle428 Mar 2020 #11
It's pretty simple. The boss doesn't WANT testing done. Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #12
HTF evil can these people get? *endless loop day after day? Brainfodder Mar 2020 #15
This can not be happening merely through incompetence or error. This has to be intentional. NBachers Apr 2020 #20
This is exactly how Trump & Co. WANT it to work. dchill Apr 2020 #21
I suppose elections have consequences and this is the shit sandwich conservatives wanted ffr Apr 2020 #22
I love Rachel Gothmog Apr 2020 #23
Can't fathom... No words liberalla Apr 2020 #24

underpants

(182,769 posts)
2. FEMA said they never got a call from HHS
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 11:07 PM
Mar 2020

and no one at FEMA bothered to call HHS for some reason.

This is worse than a disaster. I’m really freaked out about what’s about to happen.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
5. What dept in this admin hasn't fucked this up in some way?
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 11:14 PM
Mar 2020

I don't know how so many intelligent people went along with this BS. Impeachment is political, this is our health! They made it political, not us. We must never, ever let them get away with this and never let Americans forget who they listened to and who they didn't at this time in our history.

cstanleytech

(26,283 posts)
17. Destroying the US economy and ability to react globally in the long run is probably the goal.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 12:42 AM
Apr 2020

After all Putin is trying to build Russia up into being a global super power again but that would be difficult to do with the US standing in his way so he had to groom assets in the US.
So that is why we have people like Trump and Moscow Mitch in office.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
18. I still beleive his and Putin's shared goal
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 12:49 AM
Apr 2020

(along with Mitch and Barr) is to destroy America and rebuild it in the GOP image. Bankrupting and killing all who stand in their way seems to be their shared strategy.

captain queeg

(10,171 posts)
6. Trump got rid of anyone Obama hired. He replaced them with sycophants
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 11:15 PM
Mar 2020

Or more often no one there are so many positions with “acting” heads

underpants

(182,769 posts)
14. I remember reading a story about Jared in the transition
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 11:45 PM
Mar 2020

Their first visit to the White House. After a tour walkthrough Jared was speaking with the Chief of Staff or someone close to that level. Jared asked, “So how many of those people have to be replaced?” The article stated the answer as matter of fact but I read some jaw drop in it. The answer was (obviously) “All of them. Everyone in there is a political appointee or hire. “

That was when I really understood how bad this could get.

 

la-trucker

(283 posts)
8. Those idiots are more concerned about pleasing Trump
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 11:18 PM
Mar 2020

than doing their jobs.

It is sickening. Come on people, there are people dying and doctors/nurses/lab techs at risk.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
9. We need to have Nuremberg style trials when this is all over.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 11:19 PM
Mar 2020

The people who allowed this to happen need to answer for their crimes and the entire world needs to know who is to be held responsible for this atrocity.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
10. I'm so glad she had that supply chain specialist
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 11:20 PM
Mar 2020

who is a professor at USC on her show tonight. The public needs to understand that it is possible to manage distribution chains. It's just that no one in the WH knows what they are doing. None of them have the resumès for their jobs.

underpants

(182,769 posts)
13. The DPA also allows for price control
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 11:41 PM
Mar 2020

So you figure out who’s got what. You figure who’s shipping to who. Then you say - everyone’s price is ___. Figure out pricing changes later.

MOVE! NOW!

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
11. So you're saying the guy who cut Epstein that amazing prosecution deal for his
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 11:23 PM
Mar 2020

crimes of predation turned out to be completely horrible manager when it comes to taking care of people?

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
15. HTF evil can these people get? *endless loop day after day?
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 11:52 PM
Mar 2020

Hiding the # and basic info of dead people as their re-election looms, this is their play?

These monsters make the devil blush?

I wish them drawn and quartered without any prep.



Faces of Death faked it really well for back in the day, it made a lasting impression?

dchill

(38,472 posts)
21. This is exactly how Trump & Co. WANT it to work.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 01:35 AM
Apr 2020

HHS is not to advance and administer Health and Human Services. It's to do away with it.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
22. I suppose elections have consequences and this is the shit sandwich conservatives wanted
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 01:58 AM
Apr 2020

They're really owning us now. Boy, oh boy!

People need to be held accountable for this carnage.

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