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TheBlackAdder

(28,154 posts)
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 11:21 AM Apr 2020

Finally! Morning Joe Blames Newt And Grover For Our Broken Government

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Scarborough led with the famous quote from Grover Norquist.

"He said 'I don't want to abolish government, I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub," he said.

"Well, that's exactly what's happened with NIH. That's exactly what's happened with the pandemic task force. That's exactly what's happened, again, with that 12% of the federal government, the domestic discretionary spending part, that small part of that pie that republicans have only had the political will to cut. Of course, expanding the defense budget at record rates, passing record tax cuts, being fiscally reckless, and then gutting the small part of the federal budget that actually would be saving lives right now, Mike."


"Well, Grover, who grew up about 15 miles from where I'm sitting here right now this morning, should be pleased with his efforts because they have been quite successful. And I can know that -- you know that they're quite successful when you talk to emergency room nurses or doctors or people in hospitals who don't have enough protection equipment, who don't have the kind of gloves, the kind of masks that they've needed now for months because government has been so inefficient in delivering these things," Barnicle said.

"And I might remind Grover to go around to a hospital and talk to these people at the appropriate distance, of course, and then ask yourself, is this really the United States of America? Are you telling me in the United States of America, in the year 2020, that we cannot provide nurses and doctors with personal protection equipment needed to combat this virus without putting their lives on the line every day, which they do? But this is the United States of America 2020, thanks to the efforts of people like Grover Norquist, Newt Gingrich who began this whole thing, in my estimation, in the mid 1980s, and this is where we are today, Joe."

"I'll tell you, Mika, I am a small government conservative. I've been fighting for small government and balanced budgets my entire life, I'm still a small government conservative," Scarborough said.

"But you've got to keep the part of the budget that actually helps the American people. And, again, it's something I've been warning about for a decade now. It's something that other conservatives have been -- small government conservatives have been warning about for a decade now. You can't jack up defense spending to record levels. You can't jack up tax cuts that end up not helping the economy in the long run.

https://crooksandliars.com/2020/04/finally-morning-joe-blames-newt-and-grover



Right Joe! Except a Small Government Conservative, is just a fringe of fabric away from Grover's position.

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Finally! Morning Joe Blames Newt And Grover For Our Broken Government (Original Post) TheBlackAdder Apr 2020 OP
And the ironic thing is that today's right HATES Grover Norquist, but for a dumb reason ck4829 Apr 2020 #1
Couldn't Happen To A More Appropriate Target ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #4
It is good, it's unfortunate that's the "other side of the aisle" ck4829 Apr 2020 #7
As Long As He's Being Ignored... ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #9
I suppose ck4829 Apr 2020 #11
Think About It, CK ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #13
He is only desperately attempting to justify the unjustifiable. olegramps Apr 2020 #22
As the Marine On The Bon Homme Richard Is Said To Have Growled The Magistrate Apr 2020 #2
What's more We never will! True Blue American Apr 2020 #40
That Kock whore wants more corporate tax cuts: dalton99a Apr 2020 #3
Nobody remembers what never happened. Except for cons like bathtub bozo. librechik Apr 2020 #16
I wonder if Grover is overweight because he's afraid of being drowned in the bathtub struggle4progress Apr 2020 #5
The idiocy of "small government conservative"... pat_k Apr 2020 #6
Why does he always act like he wasn't a part of all that? padah513 Apr 2020 #8
Exactly. Morning Joe was a "Young Gun" conservative Congressman who sat on Newt's team. Midnight Writer Apr 2020 #29
The Wednesday meetings ... UpInArms Apr 2020 #10
Pffft! ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #14
he and gingrich owe most of their 'success' at destroying democracy to limbaugh, like trump certainot Apr 2020 #23
Limbaugh is still claiming cv-19 is being unnecessarily hyped by the media. nt tblue37 Apr 2020 #28
yes and all his stations need to lose their licenses certainot Apr 2020 #32
KnR Hekate Apr 2020 #12
Got to blame somebody, after all, trump won't take responsibility. SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #15
Trump did not do it by himself. marble falls Apr 2020 #39
I call fibber! crickets Apr 2020 #17
May both of those dicks get the virus & die the most painful deaths imaginable. rickyhall Apr 2020 #18
Joe's bullshittin' again. DEbluedude Apr 2020 #19
Yup and for all to see ouija Apr 2020 #21
+1000 ancianita Apr 2020 #26
All these crackpot libertarians own a share of the death toll not fooled Apr 2020 #20
Great! Give that man an "I participated" trophy... JHB Apr 2020 #24
This "guy" was around when the country finally had a balance budget............Clinton turbinetree Apr 2020 #25
grover, newt and their ilk should be Permanently Quarantined. n/t MarcA Apr 2020 #27
Fuck joe scarborough Midnightwalk Apr 2020 #30
My Opinion marieo1 Apr 2020 #31
That Joe can still call himself a small government Conservative Sloumeau Apr 2020 #33
agree! n/t orleans Apr 2020 #35
When Small Government Conservative citizens are asked, which part of government should we cut? ... aggiesal Apr 2020 #34
"Except a Small Government Conservative, is just a fringe of fabric away from Grover's position" orleans Apr 2020 #36
Total fail Scar. Boomerproud Apr 2020 #37
Norquist, Gingrich, and Co. should have been "victims" a long time ago. nt Progressive Jones Apr 2020 #38
Joe makes me dizzy. kskiska Apr 2020 #41

ck4829

(35,020 posts)
1. And the ironic thing is that today's right HATES Grover Norquist, but for a dumb reason
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 11:23 AM
Apr 2020

He's a "secret Muslim" according to them.

Really.

Really.

ck4829

(35,020 posts)
7. It is good, it's unfortunate that's the "other side of the aisle"
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 11:34 AM
Apr 2020

He is discredited to them, not because his ideas have no merit, but because he has a Muslim wife and because he has... a beard.

It shows how truly unworthy of an opponent that today's right-wing truly is. They should not be our counterpart.

ProfessorGAC

(64,789 posts)
13. Think About It, CK
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 11:59 AM
Apr 2020

This guy has no real credentials, other than going to Harvard.
He had the ear of a president & was constantly in the press.
Now he has no audience.
Gotta be killing him to be irrelevant. He deserves it.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
22. He is only desperately attempting to justify the unjustifiable.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 01:02 PM
Apr 2020

He and his policies are a failure and deadly like his intern.

The Magistrate

(95,241 posts)
2. As the Marine On The Bon Homme Richard Is Said To Have Growled
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 11:25 AM
Apr 2020

When hearing John Paul Jones famous cry 'I have not yet begun to fight!"...

"There's always some sonuvabitch slow to get the word."


librechik

(30,673 posts)
16. Nobody remembers what never happened. Except for cons like bathtub bozo.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 12:15 PM
Apr 2020

who are happy to blow a little gas at you when it looks like you are waking up.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
6. The idiocy of "small government conservative"...
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 11:29 AM
Apr 2020

But you've got to keep the part of the budget that actually helps the American people.


That is the ONLY part of the government ANY of us want. We ALL want a government that serves us as a people. No More. No Less.

There is no right "size" -- we need it to be the size we decide we need it to be.

padah513

(2,493 posts)
8. Why does he always act like he wasn't a part of all that?
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 11:35 AM
Apr 2020

Look at his voting record when he was in Congress. I bet he'd still be there if it wasn't for the intern incident.

UpInArms

(51,278 posts)
10. The Wednesday meetings ...
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 11:38 AM
Apr 2020
Grover Norquist
Norquist's national strategy has included recruiting state and local politicians to support ATR's stance on taxes. Norquist has helped to set up regular meetings for conservatives in many states. These meetings are modeled after his Wednesday meetings in Washington, with the goal of creating a nationwide network of conservative activists that he can call upon to support conservative causes, such as tax cuts and deregulation. There are now meetings in 48 states.

ProfessorGAC

(64,789 posts)
14. Pffft!
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 12:00 PM
Apr 2020

He was boycotted at CPAC & liberals consider him Satan. Nobody actually listens to him anymore. Recent tweets be damned.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
23. he and gingrich owe most of their 'success' at destroying democracy to limbaugh, like trump
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 01:03 PM
Apr 2020

and putin, and limbaugh led 2 months of shouts of HOAX! in the national COVID theater, reaching 50 mil a week from 1500 radio stations. the owners of those stationss need to lose their licenses and should have already aaafter 30 years of "THERE IS NO MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING! IT'S ALL NATURAL! WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT! BUY A BIGGER TRUCK YOU DUMBFUCK!"

morning joe is a cityfied joe who like most city dwellers in media and politics they either have no clue about talk radio or like joe seems to have forgotten how important it was in getting him through elections. morning joe 'ex repubublican needs to give limbaugh and sons (now fed increasingly by putin) a lot more 'credit' instead of going after tools like norquist, and he should know.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
32. yes and all his stations need to lose their licenses
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 01:40 PM
Apr 2020

they're going to hide behind the excuse that they're just trying to save the economy, trying to get more control to local govts to help them save jobs - that's what he's selling now

crickets

(25,946 posts)
17. I call fibber!
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 12:26 PM
Apr 2020
it's something I've been warning about for a decade now. It's something that other conservatives have been -- small government conservatives have been warning about for a decade now.


Nope! NOPE! You can't claim that and have anybody take it seriously. Nice try. Glad to hear it now, but don't even think people don't realize that you've started saying it once the reality of small government bites you in the ass. It was just fine with you as long as everyone else's rear end but yours was on the line.

DEbluedude

(816 posts)
19. Joe's bullshittin' again.
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 12:31 PM
Apr 2020

"Well, that's exactly what's happened with NIH. That's exactly what's happened with the pandemic task force. That's exactly what's happened, again, with that 12% of the federal government, the domestic discretionary spending part, that small part of that pie that republicans have only had the political will to cut. Of course, expanding the defense budget at record rates, passing record tax cuts, being fiscally reckless, and then gutting the small part of the federal budget that actually would be saving lives right now, Mike."

AND:

"I'll tell you, Mika, I am a small government conservative. I've been fighting for small government and balanced budgets my entire life, I'm still a small government conservative,"

What Grover said is exactly what these fucks have been having wet dreams about for 40 years.

Scar is trying to act like the grown-up in the room. Fuck him.

not fooled

(5,799 posts)
20. All these crackpot libertarians own a share of the death toll
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 12:36 PM
Apr 2020

which should weigh on their consciences except that sociopaths probably don't have consciences.

JHB

(37,149 posts)
24. Great! Give that man an "I participated" trophy...
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 01:08 PM
Apr 2020

He's about 25 years late with it, but glad he's finally aboard (at least until it's opportune for him to jump back with his old buddies).

And Joe: Remind is how many times Newt has been on your show, and please make sure that's
the end of it.

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
25. This "guy" was around when the country finally had a balance budget............Clinton
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 01:13 PM
Apr 2020

but on the other hand.......................his former record speaks volumes...................


https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/joe_scarborough/400608

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
30. Fuck joe scarborough
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 01:30 PM
Apr 2020

He is an accomplice in the dismantling of america and worse in electing trump. How many millions of free air time did he give trump.

It only took a pandemic and the likely deaths of 100k Americans for joe shmuckhead to fail at expressing any remorse.

Note that he still brags about being a small government conservative. The same band of shit heels who brought us to this sorry state. They worshipped norquist for 40 years and now want to pretend it was all norquist’s fault?

Fuck them all.

Sloumeau

(2,657 posts)
33. That Joe can still call himself a small government Conservative
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 01:47 PM
Apr 2020

means Joe still doesn't get it. It was Reagan's call for tax cuts and small government that put us in this mess in the first place. It was small government Conservatives who pushed for things like firing the pandemic team, cutting the CDC budget, cutting taxes, killing Hillary's healthcare bill in the 90s, and killing Obamacare in the 21st Century. Joe is still not admitting his part in this.

aggiesal

(8,902 posts)
34. When Small Government Conservative citizens are asked, which part of government should we cut? ...
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 01:49 PM
Apr 2020

Their answers are always parts that don't affect themselves.
Cut Social Security? NO
Cut VA? NO
Cut Law Enforcement? NO
Cut 1st Responders? NO
Cut Public School Spending? NO
And mostly "Keep your damn government hands off my Medicare"!

Everyone wants to cut my income tax, cut my property tax, cut my sales tax, cut my DMV fees, ... Cut, Cut, Cut.

Everyone wants the services, but nobody wants to pay for them.

orleans

(34,039 posts)
36. "Except a Small Government Conservative, is just a fringe of fabric away from Grover's position"
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 01:54 PM
Apr 2020

absolutely right!

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