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applegrove

(118,614 posts)
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 08:35 PM Apr 2020

Scoop: Inside the epic White House fight over hydroxychloroquine

Scoop: Inside the epic White House fight over hydroxychloroquine

Jonathan Swan at Axios

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-white-house-01306286-0bbc-4042-9bfe-890413c6220d.html

"SNIP.....

Navarro's comments set off a heated exchangeabout how the Trump administration and the president ought to talk about the malaria drug, which Fauci and other public health officials stress is unproven to combat COVID-19.

Fauci pushed back against Navarro, saying that there was only anecdotal evidence that hydroxychloroquine works against the coronavirus.

Researchers have said studies out of France and China are inadequate because they did not include control groups.

Fauci and others have said much more data is needed to prove that hydroxychloroquine is effective against the coronavirus.

As part of his role, Navarro has been trying to source hydroxychloroquine from around the world. He's also been trying to ensure that there are enough domestic production capabilities inside the U.S.



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Squinch

(50,946 posts)
1. So they can't get fucking masks, but they can spend time and energy sourcing this
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 08:39 PM
Apr 2020

shit "from around the world."

More fiddling while Rome burns.

I hate these people. I really do.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
10. They are looking for a magic bullet. They are desperate to find one.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 12:10 AM
Apr 2020

A wonder drug would get them out of the woods and vastly help Trump. So they are desperately casting for that wonder drug, even if people suffer ingesting medicine that is unproven for what they are pushing it for.

Squinch

(50,946 posts)
14. No they arent. Novartis makes the drug. Novartis paid
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 06:32 AM
Apr 2020

Trump 1.2 million through Michael Cohen. Trump is now paying back so they'll give him more cash.

This has nothing to do with them looking for a cure for any reason. This has to do with lining the pockets of Filthy Donnie.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213239457

UTUSN

(70,680 posts)
6. Yip, that's what we've been saying... (compilation of some DUers' posts: )
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 10:09 PM
Apr 2020

* SHITLER is *taking* the drug himself - he loves him his drugs.

* He's got a deal for a cut of the sales.

* He's at the point of doing Infomercials at his rallies/"pressers" - his only job is marketing, promotions on his reality shows, is
auditioning for Shark Tank for Mark CUBAN's vote. Somebody posted they saw him handling the boxed product while somebody else was talking about it (voiceover), like a hand model on The Price Is Right.
















Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
7. The study in France included a cohort of TWENTY PEOPLE.
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 10:25 PM
Apr 2020

It was not a double-blind, control group clinical trial. It had NONE of the standard requirements of a rigorous clinical trial.

Do you want to be the guinea pig who tries something that shaky ?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
12. I can promise you that the closest relative of a person dying
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 12:13 AM
Apr 2020

would say yes, give the medicine.

Trump doesn't care if the medicine does nothing, my guess is his corrupt mind already has an out for that.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
8. Navarro is a fucking twit.
Sun Apr 5, 2020, 10:56 PM
Apr 2020

'That's science, not anecdote.'

Not without a fucking control group and published methodologies you asshat. They may as well have been given goddamn aspirin for all the good the results are.

Now. In his defense, IF it were the case that this shit DID work, AND we had passed on getting extra, that would also be a problem, I'll admit that. HOWEVER..my suspicion is that theres enough of the stuff on hand that IF its effectiveness came to light, obtaining it wouldn't be a problem.

Now they've created a problem that didnt need to exist.. lupus sufferers not getting the meds they actually need.

Fauci was correct for calling out this bullshit, and for having this fight. Good for him.

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