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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWill Republican governors try to hide the number of people infected in their states.
One way they could do this is by not testing people on a large scale. I am watching Florida, their governor is a Trump freak. He will do anything Trump tells him to do. The Florida numbers are slowly going up, You would think there would be a big spike in the numbers sometime soon because he kept things open.
There is no doubt Trump and the Republicans are playing politics with this virus. I do not trust them at all.
Javaman
(62,510 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)See what happened to Capt. Crozier? See how Trump calls names and is at his pettish worst with reporters who ask impertinent, "nasty" questions? See how Trump blows hot and cold on Gov. Cuomo, friendly when it suits him, ravingly lunatic when it doesn't? You want to let yourself in for that kind of abuse in a state dominated by Republicans? Not on your nelly. Republican governors know that if they conduct their state's public health affairs in a manner to save lives, Trump will come down on them hard. He might even tweet at them. Republicans don't rise through the party ranks by standing up to those above them.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Atticus
(15,124 posts)ChazInAz
(2,564 posts)Arizona's Ducey is doing it.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)all trickery against coronavirus eventually backfires.
Johnny2X2X
(19,024 posts)They have people dying without being tested pre or post death.
Igel
(35,296 posts)And NY.
Some are caught. Some aren't.
A week or so ago a woman who died was autopsied. Seeing respiratory distress was cause of death, COVID tested. And was recategorized.
Some of the test disparity is attributed to malice and not facts. NYS has had 300k tests, according to the covid tracking project. Texas, 70k.
Some might be to reporting differences (not all labs report, not all states report negatives). But also remember there was a fixed number of test kits available and Cuomo was loudly demanding that test kits get shunted to NY. When testing was ramping up a couple of weeks ago, it ramped up first there and ramped up more there. The more NY got, the less there were for everybody else. Cuomo (and others) insisted not sending them all to NY was unfair.
That's not Texas' or North Dakota's fault.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Igel
(35,296 posts)California's also "under testing" and if you just multiply numbers they start looking like New York. But nobody's crying this.
There are a lot of reasons for different infection/death rates between different areas. Reducing everything to red/blue is like taking a picture of a beautiful woman against a stunning backdrop, reducing it to gray scale, and then turning up the contrast so it's just patches of solid black and solid white.
In this case, it's done because (I think) people are assigning some sort of moral or ethical value to the incidence and death tolls. "If he had more die in his state, he must be a bad, bad person. Wait. He's a dem. Gotta find some way of proving the bad people are really the bad people and my guy's good."
Morals =/= smarts =/= abilities =/= circumstances. And it's not strictly all/nothing at every link. Good people do bad things. Bad people do good things. Smart people make dumb decisions. Dumb people can be wise sometimes. Smart, competent people wind up in situations that they can't control. Stupid, incompetent wind up being pitched easy situations that even they can't screw up.
Decouple the criteria. Esp. before it's all over. China had its curve over and done before the US's curve got going, not because it was better or worse but because it was early to the party, and it squelched it (according to official reports) not because they had universal health care but because the PTB acted brutally and had public buy in. Taiwan acted like 1984's government only dreamt of, collating disparate facts because they have lots of data on each person and easily could correlate travel/health care/employment/addresses/phone #s & locations. Italy got a fast start because it had more cases show up undetected and unisolated and the distribution of the first cases that went to doctors didn't cause alarm bells to go off, even though it as universal health care.
Texas and Florida are slower to take off than NY for a bunch of non-Cuomo related reasons. I think Cuomo screwed up and is trying to make amends, but NY would have gotten hit hard regardless and his screw up may not have made much of a difference.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... world that has handled this virus with some kind of responsible response according to covidtracking.com
This is about blue and Red; the red state governors save a hand full have been total asses about CV 19 while the blue state govs have been opposite.
Chainfire
(17,526 posts)When it is all over, they want to tell you, "See, I told you it wouldn't be that bad."
defacto7
(13,485 posts)scrabblequeen40
(334 posts)titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)Ohio has a Republican Governor and has been brutally honest. Too many others in the medical field in the states to cover it up unless it is deep south like MS and AL.
A few years ago there were only 15 Dem Governors. Today there's 24 I believe...and thank God.
mcar
(42,298 posts)They might try to hide the numbers but they won't succeed.
The other issue is the death toll. It is going to be much higher than reported because people who die at home of C19 and who were not tested are not in that count.