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ck4829

(35,062 posts)
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 05:17 PM Apr 2020

"A little SOCIALISM" or "possibly get coronavirus"? Conservatives say the choice is clear, but...

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“The virus is not going to sink the American economy. What is or could sink the American economy is the SOCIALISM coming from our friends on the other side of the aisle,” Kudlow told attendees at the Conservative Political Action Conference, the theme of which was “America vs. SOCIALISM.”

Several weeks later...

“The mass shutdowns are an unprecedented experiment on Americans that is destroying our national fabric,” Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch, a group that fashions itself a conservative watchdog but acts more as a communications shop for the right’s messaging, tweeted Friday. “The experiment must end. At this rate, we will have 30 million unemployed Americans by the end of the month. You can’t cure a pandemic by killing an economy.” On Friday, Fitton was back to blaming governors for “strangling our economy.”

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Meanwhile, the conservative Phyllis Schlafly Eagles didn’t waste the opportunity to warn Americans about the perils of socialized medicine. In their column Tuesday, Dems Push Socialized Medicine to Exploit Crisis, John and Andy Schlafly, sons of the late Phyllis Schlafly, argue that Democratic governors like New York’s Andrew Cuomo and Michigan’s Gretchen Whitmer are trying to impose socialized medicine on Americans by restricting the use of the drug hydroxychloroquine. Many of the restrictions on the drug are meant to reserve its use for controlled studies to see whether it could be used to treat coronavirus patients and to prevent hoarding–not to mention ensure its safe use. (After Trump touted the unproven drug as a cure for COVID-19, people began searching for the drug, and one man who consumed a fish tank cleaner with the same active ingredient died.)

On Friday, Charlie Kirk, founder and president of Turning Point USA, fretted, “we are now setting the precedent of the government on a massive scale sending direct checks to people because of a time of crisis.” As Right Wing Watch reported, Kirk noted that such a relief package could show that programs like Medicare for All aren’t impossible–and perhaps even affordable. Kirk appeared to suggest that it was time for the U.S. to go back to work, noting to his co-host, “Here’s the long and short of it is that middle America, real small business relief, the best stimulus they could have, Michael, is the green light to go back to work.”

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/as-u-s-economy-falters-right-wing-groups-warn-of-socialism-call-for-u-s-to-go-back-to-work/


Decisions, decisions...
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"A little SOCIALISM" or "possibly get coronavirus"? Conservatives say the choice is clear, but... (Original Post) ck4829 Apr 2020 OP
They're so limited in their understanding. dawg day Apr 2020 #1
If the money for the bailouts came from the pockets of the ... S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #4
When your only tool is a hammer, all your problems start to look like nails... Wounded Bear Apr 2020 #5
But EVERYTHING is socialism today, and NOTHING is socialism as well... ck4829 Apr 2020 #6
You know, the alternative would be for the private sector to pay people not to work underpants Apr 2020 #2
American voters need to recognize that Capitalism serves the highest level of corruption, ... S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2020 #3
Biggest Dummy To Front Of The Line ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #7

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
1. They're so limited in their understanding.
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 05:21 PM
Apr 2020

Pumping $ into the economy in a time of crisis isn't "socialism". It's Keynesian-- the perfectly sensible idea that money that Americans spend in the American economy will keep the economy flowing, get people back to work, keep businesses alive.

It's not like the money evaporates or gets stuck in some investment account (which is exactly what happens when Republicans engage in "wealth socialism," that is, giving big tax cuts to rich people).

S.E. TN Liberal

(508 posts)
4. If the money for the bailouts came from the pockets of the ...
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 05:30 PM
Apr 2020

... wealthy, you would be correct.

Since the money comes from taxpayers, through the government, it is actually Socialism.

The best result would happen if the wealty were made to pay for their own bailouts. Make the banks and other businesses create their own insurance programs which they can draw upon in economic bad times and leave taxpayers alone.

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
5. When your only tool is a hammer, all your problems start to look like nails...
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 05:41 PM
Apr 2020

All problems are caused by socialism, all correctives involve more free market capitalism.

ck4829

(35,062 posts)
6. But EVERYTHING is socialism today, and NOTHING is socialism as well...
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:50 AM
Apr 2020

It's Schrodinger's ideology.

underpants

(182,774 posts)
2. You know, the alternative would be for the private sector to pay people not to work
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 05:22 PM
Apr 2020

I mean, that IS the alternative.

S.E. TN Liberal

(508 posts)
3. American voters need to recognize that Capitalism serves the highest level of corruption, ...
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 05:25 PM
Apr 2020

..fails time and time again, and always has to bailed out by Socialism at huge expense.

It would by cheaper to just let Socialists run things and the majority of the people would be far better off.

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