tRump must've lost his shit when he saw the Roosevelt's crew cheering their captain...

[cynatnite]

He can't handle that kind of adoration if it's for someone other than him.

That's why I think he ordered Modly to do that insulting and stupid speech to the crew. He was hoping to turn them against Captain Crozier.

Glad it backfired.

[MaryMagdaline]

1. You're probably right on all counts

[Blue Owl]

2. Trump can eat shit and die for all I care

n/t

[Boxerfan]

6. Very succinct

[bullwinkle428]

3. He was already backpedaling on the termination in the press conference.

He knows how badly he fucked up on this one.

[soryang]

4. This is more media manipulation by drumpf

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the bruhaha over the letter, the firing, the "stupid" comment, etc., is meant to divert from the real issue. Who is the moron that sent the ship into Danang during an epidemic? Southeast Asian ports had already been closed to cruise ships for some time. The Diamond Princess fiasco had already been underway for weeks in Yokohama. Crozier noted in his letter that the Roosevelt was even more vulnerable to infection than the Diamond Princess.

So who are the morons who insisted on the Danang port visit? Whatever benefit they thought was worth the risk, wasn't. So I lay the blame with drumpf, pompeo, esper, stilwell, navarro, obrien, et al, who can't think straight when the subject China comes up, as in South China Sea.

[cynatnite]

5. It's nowhere the same as a cruise liner...

The decisions on where the Roosevelt ports are made by the most senior officers and it was likely made some time ago. The scheduled stop was designed to strengthen diplomatic relations. Keep in mind this is one of the most strategic ships in the fleet.

The Roosevelt arrived on March 4th. Vietnam didn't lock down the country until March 30th.

It probably wouldn't have turned into a fiasco had they immediately addressed Captain Crozier's concerns from the outset rather than letting it fest to the point of endangering sailors and military readiness.

[soryang]

11. I served on a carrier, i know what it's like

It's more vulnerable to the spread of an infectious disease. Vietnamese ports were already barred to cruise ship port calls in February.

It was an issue before they made the port call.

The port call of the Theodore Roosevelt has already helped to deepen bilateral trust. Six thousand sailors visiting a nation adjacent to the epicenter of the ongoing coronavirus health crisis certainly stimulated a debate in both Hanoi and Washington about proceeding with the visit. Both countries have legitimate health concerns. For its part, the United States Pacific Fleet has directed its ships to remain at sea for 14 days following a foreign port call in Asia to identify any spread of the contagion. The easiest and safest choice would be to for one side or the other to have postponed this significant event...

https://thediplomat.com/2020/03/even-coronavirus-couldnt-stop-the-2nd-us-carrier-visit-to-vietnam/

the Westerdam, "which had no reported cases of coronavirus while sailing, was denied entry to multiple Asian ports (Japan, Taiwan, Guam, the Phillipines and Thailand) during its time at sea before Cambodian authorities granted it clearance to dock on February 13."
https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/5074/

Vietnam: While no official statement has been issued by Vietnam about closing its ports to all cruise traffic, the ships Norwegian Jade and AIDAvita were denied entry into three of its ports as of February 12, despite followng protocols with no reported cases of coronavirus and no Chinese passport-holders onboard. Silversea's Silver Spirit is expected to call on Da Nang on February 18.
https://www.cruisecritic.com/news/5036/

“Due to growing concerns regarding coronavirus in Asia, the ports we planned to visit in Vietnam are no longer open to accepting cruise ships,” the Norwegian Cruise Line said.

Reuters Feb 14 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-vietnam-ship/vietnam-turns-away-cruise-ship-over-coronavirus-fears-state-media-idUSKBN2081FU

"Keep in mind it's one of the most strategic ships in the fleet." Which is why you don't want to have the crew incapacitated by infectious disease while it's on deployment. The whole idea of a nuclear powered vessel is that you DON'T NEED to pull into port.

[mnmoderatedem]

7. No doubt he has not seen the footage

His handlers would not allow it

[cynatnite]

8. He's obsessed with the news. He saw it. n/t

[rufus dog]

9. You mean the 150 people who cheered him

Yes the Orange ShitStain did claim it was 150!!!

[smirkymonkey]

10. K&R

He knows that he will never be truly respected and adored like that. The only reason his cult members cheer for him is because he hates the same people they do. Not because they admire him or feel affection for him. He is their weapon. That is the only reason they are loyal to him.