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struggle4progress

(118,280 posts)
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 08:59 PM Apr 2020

Crozier got a raw deal

By Jonathan S. Tobin April 6, 2020 | 8:37pm


Navy Capt. Brett Crozier was fired last week as commander of the aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt after complaining about the plight of his crew, which was being ravaged by the coronavirus on his ship. To put it bluntly, he got a raw dea l...

Maintaining the chain of command is, of course, essential to a well-run military. But the same can be said of protecting the health of those who serve the nation at sea.

Placing the interests of those under his command over what would be good for his career is exactly what we should expect from naval officers ...

... the worst mistake Trump and other officials can make now as they try to save lives is to treat questions about their decisions — even those that are clearly apolitical, like Crozier’s — like partisan broadsides ...

The Navy’s higher-ups need to show that they share the respect that most Americans feel for the captain — and ensure that there is still a place for courageous men like him in the Navy.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/06/captain-brett-crozier-got-a-raw-deal-and-it-needs-to-be-made-right/

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Crozier got a raw deal (Original Post) struggle4progress Apr 2020 OP
I'd like to know if TrumpCo is even telling the truth about the 'unsecured email' ... mr_lebowski Apr 2020 #1
They're word smithing, my understanding is Crozier had to send SOS via email because his CoC wasn't uponit7771 Apr 2020 #2
You don't make Captain on a Nimitz class ship Phoenix61 Apr 2020 #3
Although this statement may make some of the partisan drmeow Apr 2020 #4
+! struggle4progress Apr 2020 #5
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. I'd like to know if TrumpCo is even telling the truth about the 'unsecured email' ...
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:07 PM
Apr 2020

Sounds like bullshit to me.

I'd also like to know how many discrete attempts he made to try to rectify the problem before sending an email to 20-30 people (and if that's even true).

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
2. They're word smithing, my understanding is Crozier had to send SOS via email because his CoC wasn't
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:11 PM
Apr 2020

... responding quick enough.

I don't know the escalation path for him and it could be a senator or something but I can understand Crozier sending out a loud SoS if his normal CoC isn't acting quick enough

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
3. You don't make Captain on a Nimitz class ship
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:17 PM
Apr 2020

and not know how to work your chain of command. I can’t begin to imagine how desperate he felt to resort to the tactics he eventually used to ensure the safety of his crew. Someone definitely should be fired over this, it just shouldn’t be Capt Crozier.

drmeow

(5,017 posts)
4. Although this statement may make some of the partisan
Mon Apr 6, 2020, 09:19 PM
Apr 2020

dick wads happier, "It also is wrong — deeply wrong — for the media and Democrats to politicize the administration’s understandably imperfect record during this extremely difficult-to-fight crisis." is complete an utter f**king bullshit. When an administration is as corrupt and incompetent as this one is and when their failures are both a result of that corruption and incompetence as well as THEIR politicizing EVERYTHING then the only sane and democracy protecting thing to do.

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