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MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 03:00 PM Apr 2020

Be wary of announcements that things are improving.

They may be, but Trump will take that to mean it's time to "Open" again and stop all of this social distancing and get back to normal activities. Watch for him to say something like that very soon now.

DON'T TRUST THAT!

All it will take for the pandemic to explode again will be for people to drop their guards and stop paying attention to what has actually caused a drop in the numbers. What was that? It was the social distancing and shutting down of places where people gather in close proximity.

DON'T BE MISLED!

Even if the green light is given for a return to more normal social behavior, don't listen. Maintain what you have been doing. Minimize your exposure to others. Since inadequate testing has not been done, we have no earthly idea how many cases are out there, waiting to pass the virus on to others.

DON'T TRUST ANYTHING DONALD TRUMP SAYS!

He will lie you you, just as he has been doing all along.

Keep following those guidelines to protect yourself and others. Don't let down your guard.

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Be wary of announcements that things are improving. (Original Post) MineralMan Apr 2020 OP
VACCINE VACCINE VACCINE Brainfodder Apr 2020 #1
Also... orwell Apr 2020 #3
The way he is pushing that h-q med, Russia must be making it in bulk or something? Brainfodder Apr 2020 #12
I would be surprised if they don't have a working vaccine... orwell Apr 2020 #23
And of course we don't know when or if we will get a readily available vaccine. totodeinhere Apr 2020 #33
I'm planning on doing indefinitely what I've already been doing - The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #2
Excellent plan. My plan is the same. MineralMan Apr 2020 #10
I have the same plan. I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2020 #37
I'm waiting for an effective treatment or a vaccine. gristy Apr 2020 #15
When Disneyland opens, that's something to pay attention to MissB Apr 2020 #4
+1. Or Vegas dalton99a Apr 2020 #6
Disney is desperate rockfordfile Apr 2020 #7
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2020 #11
There's no return to normal without comprehensive testing or a vaccine. Yavin4 Apr 2020 #5
THIS !!! Even if infection rate went to zero we'd still have to SIP without par per capita testing!! uponit7771 Apr 2020 #8
yes. cwydro Apr 2020 #9
NO TESTING means numbers/information cannot be known. Covid-19 numbers w/NO TESTING AnotherMother4Peace Apr 2020 #13
TY Mineral Man. Look at these #s!👇 SheltieLover Apr 2020 #14
I know. This is going to go very badly, I'm afraid. MineralMan Apr 2020 #16
They will force SheltieLover Apr 2020 #17
Depends on individual states. MineralMan Apr 2020 #18
Well, yes SheltieLover Apr 2020 #19
He's Not Forcing Pritzker To Do Anything ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #24
With good reason! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #25
We're a month away from the expected peak in Wisconsin htuttle Apr 2020 #20
Yes. I Minnesota, too. MineralMan Apr 2020 #21
Here in Texas we got Trump lite running things. cayugafalls Apr 2020 #22
He and aides are reportedly working on a plan to open up the country the beginning of May. apcalc Apr 2020 #26
Unfortunately, I'm in Florida Just_Vote_Dem Apr 2020 #27
We will see. So far it's been pretty tame compared to NY and NJ jimfields33 Apr 2020 #36
Our family ain't doing a damn thing DonaldsRump Apr 2020 #28
Good warning! Thanks. Newest Reality Apr 2020 #29
Thank you MM. You are so right. We can not trust his prescriptions. This can die down and rise emmaverybo Apr 2020 #30
I don't trust Trump either but there are indications that things might be turning around. totodeinhere Apr 2020 #31
I agree. Tipperary Apr 2020 #32
That's what my household mercuryblues Apr 2020 #34
+1 2naSalit Apr 2020 #35

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
1. VACCINE VACCINE VACCINE
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 03:01 PM
Apr 2020

Aint risking much until that's readily available, not just "available", either!

Good Luck but don't be stupid!

orwell

(7,768 posts)
3. Also...
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 03:05 PM
Apr 2020

...VALID FDA approved treatments. The soonest any of these new candidates would be available would be September or October, and that is if everything goes flawlessly which it almost never does with FDA approval, fast track or not.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
12. The way he is pushing that h-q med, Russia must be making it in bulk or something?
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 03:17 PM
Apr 2020

Sniffler is angling all over the place, wouldn't want anything his people are brewing up unless totally desperate?

I am expecting up to 2-3 years of isolating here.




orwell

(7,768 posts)
23. I would be surprised if they don't have a working vaccine...
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 06:48 PM
Apr 2020

...in 12 to 18 months. There is a lot of brainpower being applied to this right now.

Probably closer to 18.

We have to hope that the virus doesn't significantly mutate in the meantime.

totodeinhere

(13,056 posts)
33. And of course we don't know when or if we will get a readily available vaccine.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 07:15 PM
Apr 2020

What if the virus mutates and any vaccine that is developed won't be effective anymore? Then what?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,584 posts)
2. I'm planning on doing indefinitely what I've already been doing -
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 03:04 PM
Apr 2020

which is staying in and behaving as if I had the bug even though I don't. Trump is the last person on earth I believe with respect to anything, let alone this. I'll pay attention to what Gov. Walz and the state health dept. have to say, but I no longer trust anything that comes out of the federal government, even the CDC, because every agency has been either gutted or politicized or both. If I have to stay cooped up at home for the next year or so to save my wrinkly old hide, so be it.

gristy

(10,667 posts)
15. I'm waiting for an effective treatment or a vaccine.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 03:29 PM
Apr 2020

Until then, I'm hunkered down. It's going to get old but it beats the alternative - I have a couple risk factors...

MissB

(15,803 posts)
4. When Disneyland opens, that's something to pay attention to
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 03:05 PM
Apr 2020

They’re reasonably risk adverse. Yes they are a large corporation but they have a lot to lose if they open too soon.

Yavin4

(35,421 posts)
5. There's no return to normal without comprehensive testing or a vaccine.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 03:07 PM
Apr 2020

Without those things, we will set off another spike which will be worse.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
8. THIS !!! Even if infection rate went to zero we'd still have to SIP without par per capita testing!!
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 03:12 PM
Apr 2020

We ... MIGHT ... be able to get out of the soup if there was some par per capita testing on top of those who thought they might be symptomatic but we're not even doing that now.

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,237 posts)
13. NO TESTING means numbers/information cannot be known. Covid-19 numbers w/NO TESTING
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 03:17 PM
Apr 2020

are being used by trump to lie about severity. Coroners are saying they suspect many deaths are not being attributed to covid-19.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
14. TY Mineral Man. Look at these #s!👇
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 03:24 PM
Apr 2020

[link:https://finance.yahoo.com/news/hell-coming-mathematical-proof-185019616.html?soc_src=community&soc_trk=fb|
They are lying again trying to "reopen" country. Parts of country are still not closed.

Chase ordered traders back on the floor today, unless they had dr note

This is BS!🤬

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
18. Depends on individual states.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 03:33 PM
Apr 2020

Here in Minnesota, our Governor is going to go slowly and take things into consideration.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
19. Well, yes
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 03:37 PM
Apr 2020

But your G vernor has a functional brain.

Well educated, otherwise intelligent folks here expected this to ne "over" in a couple of weeks! 😳🤯🤯🤯🤯

So most will buy the bullshit & many more will die prematurely for greed. 🤬

ProfessorGAC

(64,842 posts)
24. He's Not Forcing Pritzker To Do Anything
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 06:56 PM
Apr 2020

Pritzker is a landslide winning governor, who is getting B+ from the outfit in SoCal that has metrics for CV response.
If he had pulled the trigger 2 or 3 days sooner, probably an A.
Illinoisans indicate high approval for his handling of the situation.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
25. With good reason!
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 06:57 PM
Apr 2020


I had thevmisfortune to live there dring the felonious repuke govs.

now in a repuke state. fml. lol

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
21. Yes. I Minnesota, too.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 03:44 PM
Apr 2020

If we hold to our sheltering in place, it could work out pretty well. If we do not, it will explode here, too, and quickly.

We need our Governors to hold the line. Let them act as leaders and defy Donald J. Trump's greed and selfishness.

cayugafalls

(5,639 posts)
22. Here in Texas we got Trump lite running things.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 03:53 PM
Apr 2020

I expect our governor will follow whatever trump says. Not sure if the city governments will follow suit though and that is my only hope.

I plan on following the guidelines until there is a working vaccine and treatments. Who cares what people think of me. I want to live and see my son graduate college. I want to keep my wife safe. Guess I am selfish that way...

Just_Vote_Dem

(2,793 posts)
27. Unfortunately, I'm in Florida
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 07:02 PM
Apr 2020

Home of one of Trump's main bootlickers...I fear that things are not going to go well here

jimfields33

(15,678 posts)
36. We will see. So far it's been pretty tame compared to NY and NJ
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 08:07 PM
Apr 2020

Those two individual states account for almost half of everything. They were hit hard. Hopefully they are out of the mess almost.

DonaldsRump

(7,715 posts)
28. Our family ain't doing a damn thing
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 07:07 PM
Apr 2020

Until good folks like Governors Newsom and Cuomo tell us things are improving. Even then, we will continue to wear masks and gloves.

Trump has no relevancy in our calculus as to what to do. Well, on second thought, maybe he does: whatever he says, do exactly the opposite, and you will do/be fine. He's like the anti-oracle!

I totally agree: a national shutdown was the ONLY reasonable way to have the best chance of reducing the contagion. That didn't happen (and apparently won't happen because of those God-awful mid-west states).

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
29. Good warning! Thanks.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 07:07 PM
Apr 2020

I would suggest suspending judgement and not projecting the false hope of an unjustified optimism. We all might be prone to wishful thinking at this point and there will be those who will try to exploit that, of course, especially in this country the way it is now.

It is better to take a stance that this may take months or go well into next year, possibly. That way, you won't get depressed or overwhelmed by false expectations and will plan accordingly, but if it does fade out and things get better, you will feel more relieved.

At least, that's the way that I am framing it.

Be Well!

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
30. Thank you MM. You are so right. We can not trust his prescriptions. This can die down and rise
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 07:11 PM
Apr 2020

up again before solid treatment or vaccine. What experts say happens is that when we go back to
some biz as usual, cases not yet identified and cases imported “seed” the next epidemic wave.

Trump is going to try to push us out there prematurely for his re-election prospects. He and Cons
will want to cut any safety nets to force Americans back to work.

totodeinhere

(13,056 posts)
31. I don't trust Trump either but there are indications that things might be turning around.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 07:12 PM
Apr 2020
Fauci: 'Looks like' US deaths will be lower than original projection


https://thehill.com/homenews/coronavirus-report/491779-fauci-looks-like-us-deaths-will-be-lower-than-original-projection

Of course if anyone should get credit for this trend if true, it's Democratic governors such as Governors Cuomo, Inslee and Newsom.

Also, things are starting to turn around in several European countries and gradual lifting of some restrictions may start soon in some parts of Europe.

‘Like walking the tightrope’: Some European countries are starting to lift coronavirus lockdown measures


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/08/coronavirus-some-european-countries-set-to-lift-lockdown-measures.html

mercuryblues

(14,521 posts)
34. That's what my household
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 07:18 PM
Apr 2020

was just talking about. If things open up, we are still staying in. When the shelves stock back up we are going to bulk up supplies to last us through the winter. This way even our grocery shopping will be held to a minimum.

The only thing I am actually planning to do in Nov...VOTE

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