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trueblue2007

(17,193 posts)
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 05:36 PM Apr 2020

George Takei tWEET TODAY ..... SAD HE IS CORRECT.

George Takei @GeorgeTakei (Mr Sulu on STAR TREK)

Covid-19 comparison:
U.S. deaths 12,400
South Korea deaths: 192

Both had first positive case Jan 21. They had higher population density and a supercluster of cases.
But they got lots of testing and tracking going right away.

Trump called it a hoax. This is the result.

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George Takei tWEET TODAY ..... SAD HE IS CORRECT. (Original Post) trueblue2007 Apr 2020 OP
Yep! FM123 Apr 2020 #1
Rec cwydro Apr 2020 #2
Because they did so much testing central scrutinizer Apr 2020 #3
What number? LiberalArkie Apr 2020 #13
K&R smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #4
Truth Meowmee Apr 2020 #5
this is really incredible and absolutely heartbreaking renate Apr 2020 #6
remarkable. riversedge Apr 2020 #7
Just to provide scale Midnightwalk Apr 2020 #8
+1 You have to scale by population. (nt) nsd Apr 2020 #10
Not sure about that. Lucky Luciano Apr 2020 #15
That'd be an interesting comparison Midnightwalk Apr 2020 #17
I feel you, but not sure if tge comparison by country is correct. Lucky Luciano Apr 2020 #19
If we could only be beamed out of here. CaptYossarian Apr 2020 #9
Trump's Fault Never Forget To Say It DanieRains Apr 2020 #11
this orleans Apr 2020 #12
Campaign ad. warmfeet Apr 2020 #14
November 3rd MUST be our revenge! 210 days Thekaspervote Apr 2020 #16
South Korea has a logical political system in theory AND practice. Sarg Apr 2020 #18
In our system, it has been long expected that the Federal Blue_true Apr 2020 #21
And there, folks, is a politcal ad for November! Behind the Aegis Apr 2020 #20
Trump wants to be the best dictator. BootinUp Apr 2020 #22
I am paranoid and cynical enough to think this scenario is desirable for him. klook Apr 2020 #37
k&r Demovictory9 Apr 2020 #23
It most certainly is the Result of trump calling it a Democratic HOAX Cha Apr 2020 #24
Sorry, I have to correct you hangaleft Apr 2020 #25
Oh right.. trump.. ever the Cha Apr 2020 #29
Kick dalton99a Apr 2020 #26
...and still no national policy. n/t IllinoisBirdWatcher Apr 2020 #28
That is a very misleading graph Steelrolled Apr 2020 #38
k&r IllinoisBirdWatcher Apr 2020 #27
Rec. SilasSouleII Apr 2020 #30
I wonder if S. Korea would mind very much... kag Apr 2020 #31
Obituary x 12,400 : "Murdered by a Grotesque Orange Pustule" Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2020 #32
"excellent mr sulu crono Apr 2020 #33
Adjusted to per capita, the US has 10.16 times as many coronavirus-deaths as South-Korea. DetlefK Apr 2020 #34
May be many more deaths than reported Nululu Apr 2020 #35
Nero fiddled as Rome burned, Trump golfed as we sufficated. olegramps Apr 2020 #36

FM123

(10,053 posts)
1. Yep!
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 05:55 PM
Apr 2020

And their capital city of Seoul has even more people than New York City - just think of those poor souls in NYC that we could have saved earlier and those that struggle to stay alive every single day still...

central scrutinizer

(11,637 posts)
3. Because they did so much testing
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 06:16 PM
Apr 2020

Their number of dead is guaranteed more accurate than our number (“I like the number where it is “)

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
13. What number?
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 06:59 PM
Apr 2020

Arkansas dept of health has us at 18 deaths

The Johns Hopkins site says 10

And the CDC says 0 died from Covid but a lot died in Arkansas from pneumonia

renate

(13,776 posts)
6. this is really incredible and absolutely heartbreaking
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 06:28 PM
Apr 2020

So much unnecessary anxiety, isolation, economic suffering, and death because of a catastrophic and narcissistically neglectful lack of leadership.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
8. Just to provide scale
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 06:38 PM
Apr 2020

S korea has 51M people

Us has 331M

About a 6x difference. S. Korea’s death rate would scale to about 1200.

We’re 10x higher than that.

Lucky Luciano

(11,248 posts)
15. Not sure about that.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:49 PM
Apr 2020

You can also consider scaling NYC vs Seoul where cases were concentrated. Then it’s an insanely bad look here.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
17. That'd be an interesting comparison
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 07:57 PM
Apr 2020

10x worse for whole country is bad enough.

I complain when units get mixed or countries comparisons aren’t scaled and showed some arithmetic. I always hope I don’t mess up doing that.

Some of the websites show cases and deaths per million

Morbid but I’ve always liked numbers.

Lucky Luciano

(11,248 posts)
19. I feel you, but not sure if tge comparison by country is correct.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:14 PM
Apr 2020

Comparisons by city might be more correct.

Also comparison by population of infected locales and density seems even more sensible (Takei alluded to the density issue). Obviously a Manhattan infection is more worrisome than a Los Angeles infection with the density and all the public transportation versus travel by car.

 

Sarg

(39 posts)
18. South Korea has a logical political system in theory AND practice.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:13 PM
Apr 2020

America's is only in theory.

South Korea's entire political structure consists of a total of 18 entities (the central government, eight provinces, one special self-governing province, six self-governing cities, one special city, and one metropolitan autonomous city.

America's political structure consists of 50 states (most of them run by dysfunctional Republicans), zillions of counties (ditto), and a huge central government infrastructure designed 230 years ago.

Organizing 18 political entities during a crisis is relatively easy.

Organizing America's thousands of political entities even in a non-crisis is impossible. The system is not designed for such a thing.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. In our system, it has been long expected that the Federal
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:04 PM
Apr 2020

government would respond to all external threats. There was no need to "organize". SARS-COV-19 was at one point a 100% external threat, instead of taking charge, the president was in denial, in a world of conspiracy theories.

Behind the Aegis

(53,921 posts)
20. And there, folks, is a politcal ad for November!
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:39 PM
Apr 2020

Don't let this asshole slide! Voters have a short damn memory! Like goldfish.

klook

(12,151 posts)
37. I am paranoid and cynical enough to think this scenario is desirable for him.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 03:28 PM
Apr 2020

All those stuck-up society people in New York who laughed at me -- who's laughing now?


Millions of dead Democrats in big blue cities just before the election. This is a bad thing how?

Cha

(296,848 posts)
24. It most certainly is the Result of trump calling it a Democratic HOAX
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 10:10 PM
Apr 2020

for 70 days while he held rallies and played golf.

Thank you for the reminder, George Takei and trueblue2007

Retweeted!


 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
25. Sorry, I have to correct you
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 10:20 PM
Apr 2020

Trump never called it a Democratic hoax. He called it a “Democrat hoax”.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
29. Oh right.. trump.. ever the
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 10:26 PM
Apr 2020

scaredy troll that he's going to associate the Democratic Party with Democracy!

 

crono

(81 posts)
33. "excellent mr sulu
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 07:20 AM
Apr 2020

thanks to you and bone's quick thinking we may have just saved a few lives. its a shame we were unable to share with them the cure" "but captain the prime..." "i know mr spock i know." "mr sulu set heading for the nearest star-base, engage"

Nululu

(840 posts)
35. May be many more deaths than reported
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:22 PM
Apr 2020

New York is seeing 10x the normal number of at home deaths. Instead of 20/day it's 200/day. Only those with a prexisting positive covid19 test are counted. The rest may have it listed as "possible".

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