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mikalcharles

(87 posts)
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:21 AM Apr 2020

The Triumph of Bullshit

From Frankfurt's On Bullshit "Someone who lies and someone who tells the truth” are both responding to the facts. “The response of the one is guided by the authority of the truth, while the response of the other defies that authority and refuses to meet its demands. The BSer ignores these demands altogether… He pays no attention to it at all. By virtue of this, BS is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are.”
And this “Just as hot air is speech that has been emptied of all informative content, so excrement is matter from which everything nutritive has been removed.”

This country has had to deal with Republican Bullshit for decades. I think the Donald Trump should be referred to now as
the Bullshit President and the Republican Party as the Bullshit Party.

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The Triumph of Bullshit (Original Post) mikalcharles Apr 2020 OP
I will consider this while i was some socks. n/t rzemanfl Apr 2020 #1
The Reality Based Community Xipe Totec Apr 2020 #2
+1 n/t Laelth Apr 2020 #4
Hear! Hear! k&r n/t Laelth Apr 2020 #3

Xipe Totec

(43,889 posts)
2. The Reality Based Community
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 10:27 AM
Apr 2020

The phrase was attributed by journalist Ron Suskind to an unnamed official in the George W. Bush administration who used it to denigrate a critic of the administration's policies as someone who based their judgements on facts. In a 2004 article appearing in the New York Times Magazine, Suskind wrote:

The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' ... 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors...and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do'.

International relations scholar Fred Halliday writes that the phrase reality-based community (in contrast to faith-based community) was used "for those who did not share (the Bush administration's) international goals and aspirations". The source of the quotation was guessed to be Bush's senior advisor Karl Rove, although Rove has denied saying it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality-based_community

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