Trump Regarding Stay At Home: "... I can override the governors ..." omfg

[uponit7771]

Jus now ...

People, this guy is an idiot

"...I have great authority if I want to use it ... "

WTF ?!

[gratuitous]

1. Yeah . . . no

Thanks again, Republican Senators!

[uponit7771]

15. +1

[doc03]

2. What about those "State's Rights" nt

[Thomas Hurt]

28. State's Right only matter when there is a Democrat in the WH.

[Kablooie]

59. Absolutely none of the Republican values are real.

They piously claim all sorts of things as their foundational planks but when there's an advantage to be gained by discarding it they have no compunctions whatsoever in doing so.
Then when they've gotten what they want they go right back to claiming the value as their own.

It's all a game to grab and hold power, that's all.

[chowder66]

61. Summed up perfectly! nt

[lastlib]

77. Or, as my PoliSci professor so often said:

"They are WEAPONS, not principles!"

It IS all about power to them--and money.

[JudyM]

80. That's repub "values" and our leadership should say it just like that, all.the.time.

[Maru Kitteh]

108. They have values.

1.) Fear/Hate of "other"
2.) White Supremacism
3.) Misogyny
4.) Above all, Mammon

[Lock him up.]

130. 5.) Money (lots of) nt

[Nululu]

93. States rights only matter to support racism nt

[LakeArenal]

103. Or gerrymandering and surprising the vote

[ProfessorGAC]

3. I Want To Hear The RW Repubs...

...who for decades, have bleated "If it's not in the Constitution..." rhetoric.
This is 100% contrary to their views that powers not directly enumerated in that document is a state right!
How about now, drones?

[brewens]

6. I'd say red state governors should call up the national guard and deploy them at their

borders. That's what they would be saying if Obama had made that statement.

[ProfessorGAC]

29. Ain't That The Truth

If BHO said that, they'd declare martial law!

[Ford_Prefect]

71. I thought Texas did that, or soemthing like it...or was that Arizona?

[rasputin1952]

105. Looking back through the way-back machine...

I recall a certain GA governor calling out the GANG to keep black children out of some schools.

The response was President Eisenhower to send a BDE of the 101st Airborne. The GANG commander
was told he had relinquished his command and the Guard should return to their quarters. The GA NG
Commander was a Bird Colonel, the 101st Bde was a Brigadier General. The NG had not been
federalized, however, they were neutered.

With the exception of Eisenhower, and now Truman, I left out the names of the principles. Ike, btw
had no choice but to send in federal troops. Truman had desegregated the military, and by taking
that a step further, by fiat had desegregated the nation.

We are still in challenging times, but we will persevere, we always do.

[sop]

90. Constitution? Constitution? We don't need no stinking Constitution!

Where are all those government tyranny-hating, water-the-tree-of-liberty, gun-humping militia boys now that Trump has become a lawless treasonous tyrant, openly colluding with foreign enemies while thumbing his nose at their duly-elected congressional representatives, and wiping his ass with their precious constitution?

[ProfessorGAC]

97. Our Questions Are Correlated

Quite nicely!

[Dennis Donovan]

4. Yamiche Alcindor: Trump says he has "absolute authority" to ease social distancing guidelines."

Link to tweet

Yamiche Alcindor ✔@Yamiche

Big

President Trump says he has "absolute authority" to ease social distancing guidelines.

"I don't know that I have had a bigger decision," he said. "Hopefully it's going to be the right decision."

He points to his head & says he will be using metrics in his mind to re-open.

3:46 PM - Apr 10, 2020

[doc03]

10. He learned a new word metrics. nt

[chia]

16. I can always tell when he's been carefully fed by Barr or Miller or whoever's whispering in his ear,

because he uses words that couldn't possibly organically pop up in his mind.

[Different Drummer]

22. "He points to his head & says he will be using metrics in his mind to re-open."

WTF does that even mean?!

[Caliman73]

48. It means absolutely nothing.

He is basically saying that he will decide based on his feelings, when the social distancing guidelines will be relaxed.

He doesn't understand what metrics are. He is using words he doesn't understand to basically say he is winging it.

[Different Drummer]

85. "He is using words he doesn't understand to basically say he is winging it."

So...Reagan all over again.

[LakeArenal]

104. But but.. we already had The Decider...

That worked out terribly

[Totally Tunsie]

119. It means "Be afraid...be very afraid."

[MFGsunny]

56. MF45 + "metrics in his mind" equals what????? Oh, I know. Ask me. Ask me!

[ananda]

81. "metrics in his mind"

Which look like this: !@##$%

[lastlib]

88. You can make *metrics* out of sawdust and shit??!?

Wow--learn something new every day.....

[Totally Tunsie]

120. Maybe he meant "windmills"...

Like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel
Never ending or beginning on an ever spinning reel
As the images unwind, like the circles that you find
In the windmills of your mind!

He's always had a thing about windmills. Bird killers!

[bdamomma]

117. Killer king

he really needs to be arrested. NOW.

[Walleye]

5. Great authority. No responsibilities. The art of the sweet deal. 🤬

[doc03]

7. I think there are some governors will tell him

to go f himself.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

74. Governers Cuomo (NY) and Newsom (CA) will challenge him in court.

It's time to put Fat Donnie in his place. He's president, not king.

His use of "metrics" reminds me of when Ivanka used "architecting" as a verb. It sounds impressive, but it's actually ridiculous. Let's see how many more times he'll use it before he announces that he's using his Constitutional powers under Article II to lift social distancing "to get the economy running again."

If he does, the hospitals better get ready for another surge of patients.

[gldstwmn]

113. Newsome pretty much threatened

to secede if Orange tries anything stupid and he would be so out of his league with Cuomo.

[Ms. Toad]

8. That's a no. I thought Republicans were big on state's rights?

Wasn't he just saying the other day that states needed to fend for themselves?

[MyOwnPeace]

11. All depends on what time of day that was....

and whether it would cost him or not........

[ProfessorGAC]

32. As I Said Above...

...the strict constructionists & originalists are all about "if it's not specified in the Constitution".
Well, this sure isn't in there.

[Caliman73]

49. it is whatever Republicans want it to be.

They do not seem to care about the law, the Constitution, or anything else except retaining power.

[Crunchy Frog]

114. It's situational. It changes based on what they want at any given time.

[bearsfootball516]

9. He HAS to realize that opening everything back out would result in an avalanche of deaths

That would completely doom his chances in November.

[MoonRiver]

14. Idiot can't "think" beyond today.

[PSPS]

19. He's trying to time a brief decline in deaths with election day.

[uponit7771]

24. +1

[Drunken Irishman]

39. Even that doesn't make sense.

if we open back up in May, there will likely be a surge of deaths over summer that will absolutely cripple the US. Even if we remain open and basically just absorb the deathtolls, and deaths level off heading into fall, the damage will be done.

I truly believe it comes down to Trump buying into the idea it's not as bad as some have said. That's his gambit. He truly believes, as he's told by the Limbaugh-wing of the GOP, that this is just a cold. Opening things up will restart the economy and he likely thinks there won't be significant death.

[Windy City Charlie]

41. Agreed

Along those lines, I think the people like Limbaugh are running with the conspiracy theory that the number of deaths and infections is being exaggerated. That the states are overstating the numbers to try and get more federal money as a way to deal with the amount of debt they're in. It's sickening they would think this way.

[intheflow]

66. Or a second or third wave timed so he can cancel the election,

or at the very least, pull a Wisconsin on the whole country.

[uponit7771]

115. +1, Wisconsin was a trial run

[Bluesaph]

43. Not if the deaths aren't counted!

If there aren’t any texts he can gaslight. And his MAGAts will believe him. They live their lives making excuses for him rather than facing the fact they support a criminal!

[mgardener]

75. No he does not.

He will lie and blame others.
He has no shame.
And he is stupid.

[lastlib]

86. If people's lives weren't at stake, I'd say, "Go ahead--make my day."

"Get your fat ass thrown to the dump in November." Myself and 70 million of my friends would party like 1999!

[wnylib]

99. He will proclaim "great authority"

to remain in office during a time of crisis.

If he does, I expect to see civil war, regardless of the covid crisis. Nothing to lose at that point, since people will die either way.

[Marrah_Goodman]

12. No, no you cannot

[brush]

13. The dumb ass has no such authority. He might think that in his mind but I'd...

like to see him try to boss Newsom, Cuomo, Pritzker or Inslee around.

[Liberal In Texas]

51. He thinks he's a f'ing dictator. And repubs don't have a problem with that. n/t

[Cha]

107. this is what I was waiting for. a post that

says.. No.. he cannot do that.

I hope that's true.. this Life and Death shite from the Dictator wannabe is ******* mad.

Our Gov here in Hawaii has in in Lockdown until April 30th.. we only have 18 cases and no deaths yet on Kauai. The Dem govs know what they're doing.. trump is crapping his pants over the Economy.

[ooky]

17. No. But he says it because he thinks his magats love to hear it.

Which, I'm sure they do, because many of them are fascist traitors like him, the others, just stupid (also like him). There's nothing they like more than a hearty round of "I'm the fucking President and I can do whatever I damn well please".

[SoonerPride]

18. He can't order me to go our to eat or go to a movie

So they can open those businesses up and if even 1/2 the country stays home the economy sputters and shrivels

[uponit7771]

21. +1, I've spent the whole day reading about SK, HK, Wuhan etc and their economy is screwed because

... of this main reason; they can't force people to buy or even get in crowds.

Their issues are they know there are asymptomatic people still not resolved and the government doesn't give at home testing to make them feel safe.

This is going to be a great depression; we're staring it directly in the face

[SoonerPride]

26. We won't have another Great Depression, we'll have the GREATEST DEPRESSION

They I can tell you.

I'm hearing it and people are saying it.

[uponit7771]

31. +1, I've spent the whole day reading about SK, HK, Wuhan etc and their economy is screwed because

... they can't force people to buy or even go to work because of the number of asymptomatic people in Wuhan.

If we get an AB test that might help but we're not going to the level of Wuhan and they're still not 100% after 90 days.

[lastlib]

82. Why don't we call it "the BIGLY Depression"??

eom

[2naSalit]

20. They can't force people to got to work

if they are unwilling to do so.

They want to push us into a civil war if they can't fuck us over with a pandemic.

[uponit7771]

23. +1, and if an employer forces employees back to work they're liable for A SHIT TON of everything

... that goes wrong with them

[2naSalit]

58. They can't function without a workforce

or an ample one. Supply chain requires all elements to function.

[SheltieLover]

101. Right!

If people are financially able to just stay home, they should!

[boston bean]

121. So he won't even strongly suggest states issue stay at home orders because of states rights and the

constitution. But, he will force them to open up?

Please tell me some journalist ask him this?

[uponit7771]

122. Nope, I"m disappointed with this group as a whole. There's Yamice and the guy from FAUX News follwin

... following up but for the rest of them they get filibustered and shut up after that cause they don't want to look like they haven't done their homework and they haven't.

[Takket]

25. with congress' support, it is debatable, but by himself? no way.

[dalton99a]

27. "I can force people to die"

[dweller]

30. when he stared down that eclipse

he fried a major part of his brain

✌🏼

[dalton99a]

33. The metrics in his mind

[onecent]

54. Love this Dalton!!!

[tishaLA]

34. As long as CA and NY represent 25% of the GDP...

and their governors don't believe it's safe, the country is going to stay locked down.

[cayugafalls]

35. I'm staying home. Twitler can go diddle himself.

Whatever he says, Ill do the opposite.

Talked with my wife today and we agreed that we would stay the course and practice the rules until we felt comfortable. So trump can go sit and spin for all I care.

Of course, I am fortunate. I feel a lot of the concern people have that don't have the ability to work from home. I wish I could do more.

[Ad Infinitum]

68. Sit on it & spin

:accolade






I haven't heard that expression since my twenties,

way back in the stoned age.



Now retired and my drug of choice is mostly legal

Not everything we did was wrong.

[Thomas Hurt]

36. The christofascist love this mentality....

Irrationalism also depends on the cult of action for action's sake. Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation. Therefore culture is suspect insofar as it is identified with critical attitudes. Distrust of the intellectual world has always been a symptom of Ur-Fascism, from Goering's alleged statement ("When I hear talk of culture I reach for my gun&quot to the frequent use of such expressions as "degenerate intellectuals," "eggheads," "effete snobs," "universities are a nest of reds." The official Fascist intellectuals were mainly engaged in attacking modern culture and the liberal intelligentsia for having betrayed traditional values.

Umberto Eco

[Baclava]

37. Achtung! Into the cattle cars! Schnell, schnell, rasch!

[Newest Reality]

83. Oh no!

Be cool. It's the Trump Labor Police!

There are here to take us in the Freedom to Work Truck to our mandatory patriot jobs. It beats the camps, at least, where there is no toilet paper even.

[Windy City Charlie]

38. It's obvious

It's becoming more and more obvious the only reason he wants to reopen the economy is for his re-election efforts.

[Efilroft Sul]

40. It was bad enough when Republican senators let Trump subvert Article I of the Constitution.

Now he decides to crap all over the Tenth Amendment on live television.

A republic, if you can keep it.

[Backseat Driver]

42. F-U Monster! Power to the People and their local leaders with brains!

Go ahead, kill off your voters, idiot-in-Chief, LOL!

[Midnightwalk]

44. Nothing like using politics instead of science

The rhetoric itself is harmful.

People don’t want to stay home and keeping them there is harder if the expectation of normalcy by may is created. Regardless of anything is formally done.

There couldn’t be a worse leader at this time

[John Fante]

45. Oddly enough, the states are indirectly doing Gump a favor by

staying shut down. Not that I mind, of course. Re-opening the country like everything is hunky dory now would quickly overwhelm our healthcare system to the point of collapse. We're hanging on by a thread as is. Gump's plan would be far more harmful to the economy (and his re-election chances) than anything we're currently doing.

How does this shithead still not get it?!! I swear, Gump is the dumbest politician in recorded history. He's certainly the dumbest relative to the power he wields. Palin looks like a genius next to this circus clown.

[Windy City Charlie]

46. All I can think of

All I can think of is if he gets his way and the economy does reopen, he'll go back to downplaying how bad the virus is.

[John Fante]

50. That would last for a handful of days. Then all hell would break loose.

Trump truly thinks his fantasy scenarios can overrule objective reality. He just doesn't get it, and it's disturbing that someone so mentally deficient is in charge right now.

We're likely see a spike in cases when states decide to ease social distancing anyway. That's assuming a June 1st re-opening. Doing it sooner would be catastrophic.

[COLGATE4]

47. In his abject ignorance he actually believes all

the bullshit Bullfrog Billy Barr is giving him about the 'unitary Executive'.

[3catwoman3]

95. I was reading too fast and saw that as...

…"urinary executive." Could be.

[COLGATE4]

118. "Urinary Executive". I like it. Has a ring to it.

[Sloumeau]

52. He cannot force people to work if they do not want to work.

He's a moron.

[Afromania]

53. ..............................

[RT Atlanta]

55. little handed donnie...

it always comes back to some variation of 'mine's bigger' with that orange-faced demented shitstain

[Soxfan58]

57. States rights

A GOP Cornerstone for years.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

60. He CAN override the governors by calling out his deluded cultists & overwhelm public safety officers

Not a legal override but a sociopathic override.

[smirkymonkey]

62. Mother. Fucker.

I hate him so much.

[C Moon]

63. It certainly sounds like he wants this virus to last. Mark my words:

if they come up with a vaccine, he'll hijack it and keep it from the public.

[niyad]

64. The thread of Pres Obama's tweet explains this insanity. Pres. Obama praised the states that

Took the lead with sane measures, states that are not seeing horrific numbers. Mass murderer donnie bodybags is having a trumpertantrums.

[Upthevibe]

65. I simply can't watch him anymore....

............he's repulsive..

[coti]

67. He's just deluded. nt

[jmg257]

69. He says the Constitution can keep him from issuing national stay at homes, but thinks

he can somehow enforce the lack of them???

WTF?

[paleotn]

70. No, really you don't.

Hold over from the first 100 years of American history.

[lettucebe]

72. He literally does not understand one single thing about the presidency or our government

[The Wizard]

73. Every Governor he overrides

should hold all revenues to the federal Treasury in escrow accounts. He's fomenting civil war.

[Firestorm49]

76. The King speaks. All bow in adulation.

[wryter2000]

78. He can't make me leave my house

He can't make the Oakland Unified School District open their schools. He's an ass.

[Golden Raisin]

79. It was my understanding that we had

a Revolution and fought a war to rid ourselves of kings.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

84. Yes, if the Prez says I can go to a theater, it is my duty to go to a theater.

Or a restaurant, or ...

No, wait, I think I'll hold off until "that woman from Michigan" gives the all-clear.

[Delmette2.0]

87. He is just worried he won't sell enough of his fake cures.

The Trump family must have a lot of money invested in fake cures, PPE and tests .

And he must be late on his payments to the Russians via the Deutsche Bank.

[Pepsidog]

89. Well does he or doesn't he have the power?

[NRaleighLiberal]

91. stupid fucking ignorant lamebrained crooked orange anus

[iluvtennis]

92. He just said last month, "I take no responsibility". So, it goes both ways. The governors imposed

the lockdown for their states, it's strictly their decisions when to ease/lift the lockdowns. trump has nothing to do with it.

[EarthFirst]

94. Where is this quote attributed?

Today’s briefing?

[Aviation Pro]

96. You're not the boss of me

Fuckstick.

[live love laugh]

98. So why didn't he override FL Spring break? nt

[LiberalFighter]

100. How does propose he will override them?

He can't take over the National Guards for that purpose. But the governors can.

[Tweedy]

102. What an idiot

Let's play this foolish president's game for a minute.

Clearly, this president has no authority to overrule governors. But, assuming he pretended he did, what next?

Where is his police force to make us stop sheltering in place? The FBI just is not sufficiently large.

What is this nincompoop going to do? Empower ICE to drag us from our homes and make us spend a night at one of his tasteless hotels?

Just when you think this president cannot be any dumber, he manages to find a way.

[GulfCoast66]

109. Totally correct. The same reason there will be no martial law.

Can’t support martial law with no national police force.

The governors, including several republicans will just give him a FU. And the ones that haven’t shut down will soon have people dying wholesale.

It’s just verbal diarrhea.

[EndlessWire]

127. There can be martial law.

He will use the Army. And, since he does what he wants in defiance of the law, he'll just issue the order, and voila! Martial law...

[Tweedy]

128. Do you believe

soldiers will drag us from our homes?

I don't. Our soldiers are Americans too.

It is not going to happen. This is yet another example of our president's dithering, quivering nincompoopery.

This president is trying to suck you into his blackhole of need. Resist! Persist! And don't watch his word salad daily look at me show.

[EndlessWire]

129. Well

First off, I stopped watching the daily pressers right about the time that Channel 2, CBS, stopped broadcasting the presser when Trump abruptly left. Only the actual medical speakers were left, but they were cut off. Not that I believe them anymore, but I was disgusted that they covered Trump's blathering and not the meat and potatoes of the announcements. So I stopped trying to watch.

No one said anything about soldiers dragging people out of their houses. Martial law involves mostly oppressive restrictions, curfews, arrests, etc. I do foresee a time when warrants will be disregarded.

Having been a soldier, I do have an opinion on what a soldier will do when ordered to do something they don't want to do. They will follow orders, unless it is something like shooting a baby. A soldier will not disobey just because it's us.

What have you seen so far? You've seen the top eschelon of the military branches under the thrall of Trump and the office of the Presidency. The military and the Congress are all afraid of Trump and his power, with notable exceptions (like Pelosi and Schiff and others.) They are the ones who must decide to defy a Trump order and refuse to order their troops. Of course, when they do that, they are initiating a coup. And, that's a big deal. Use as an example the recent ship's captain who got relieved of his command simply for attempting to overcome a deadly virus. People said, Oh My! but he is still relieved.

I have lived through Kent State, the My Lai Massacre, etc. We always try to fix it by giving our soldiers the discretion to disobey an unlawful order. But, when you are deployed, you are off to do whatever your superior has been told to do. They are trained to use superior force to overcome any obstacle.

That's what makes these times so hard to swallow. And people are sitting here thinking that things are still the same, that the unthinkable can't happen, and that they'll wake up in the morning and it will all be a bad dream. Well, it's not. This is real, and we are in real trouble.

We are in trouble. It cannot be said enough. Trump does not plan to leave the Presidency. He is a dictator, and he would not hesitate to pull you out on your front lawn and shoot you dead.

The best thing we can do now is plan to vote in November, and overwhelming vote every. last. Republican out of office. Stick together through this pandemic, help each other, take care of each other, and never, ever give up. Every person to your right or your left is your brother or sister. Resist Trump.

[Tweedy]

131. Agree mostly

How exactly would this president end shelter in place orders when governors disagree?

Soldiers would have to drag us outside.

Obviously, this president has his marks who would come out anyway. What good it would do them, i cannot say. Their chance of becoming infected, however, would increase.

[uponit7771]

123. +1, Wuhan opened and its citizens went straight to exit vehicles and hospitals to get tested again .

... because they have enough since to know the same thing; they're freely testing in high enough numbers for people to feel safe.

[Cha]

106. trump is a "tremendous" Assface.. there's no

getting around that.

[roamer65]

110. No you fucking can't, COVID-45.

We will use our National Guard units to show that u can’t.

[Crunchy Frog]

111. not so much an idiot as an authoritarian and a demagogue.

And sadly seems to be quite good at it.

[gldstwmn]

112. I'd like to see him try.

One of his handlers needs to explain this to him.

[bdamomma]

116. Two words

Fuck him. He is killing people. Period.

[Dworkin]

124. Trump is suffering

Folks,

Trump does not look happy these days. Maybe his hotel business is suffering? Maybe his wealth is taking a hit?

It would make sense that Trump will do what he can to maintain his wealth under any circumstances, including manipulating the circumstances.

D.

[durablend]

125. Can he cut off unemployment funding to states that don't obey?

Basically telling employees "Get back to work because the gubermint isn't paying you otherwise"

[uponit7771]

126. Hmmm, most UE isn't a joint state federal program IINM

from wikipedia

Benefits are generally paid by state governments, funded in large part by state and federal payroll taxes levied against employers, to workers who have become unemployed through no fault of their own