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Demovictory9

(32,443 posts)
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 04:33 PM Apr 2020

Sweden didn't lockdown - that decision is resulting in worst death count among Nordic countries

Sweden’s flawed coronavirus battle plan hits the poor & elderly, resulting in worst death count among Nordic countries

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/485522-sweden-coronavirus-worst-death-count/

In only three days, the total fatalities in Sweden due to the current epidemic rose from 477 to 881. While the problem started roughly about the same time in all the Scandinavian countries, Sweden’s stats are among the worst.

Sweden has not only the highest rate of fatalities per capita, but also the total death toll is higher than that of all the other Nordic countries put together. As of April 10, Sweden has 86 Covid-19 fatalities per one million of population, while Finland has nine, Norway 20, and Denmark 43. (The US has 47, and Russia 0.5 Covid-19 fatalities per one million, respectively).

The elderly and the poor
The authorities have been repeating for weeks that the paramount aim of their strategy is to protect the elderly. But 40 percent of all victims were infected in homes housing them. And while no testing has been provided to the personnel taking care of these elderly, the virus has reached one third of Stockholm nursing homes. The vast majority of Covid-19 deaths in Sweden corresponds to people aged over 70.

Furthermore, areas in the Stockholm region inhabited mainly by immigrants with lower socioeconomic status are overrepresented among those infected by the virus. It is the worst in Rinkeby-Kista (the suburb referred to by Trump in his renowned quote “Look what happened last night in Sweden”) which exhibits the highest rate per capita (48 per 10,000). In social-privileged areas, e.g. Kungsholmen, it is only nine cases per 10,000. On March 16, an independent organization of Somali physicians revealed that at least six out of 15 fatalities that occurred in Stockholm were of Somali or

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Sweden didn't lockdown - that decision is resulting in worst death count among Nordic countries (Original Post) Demovictory9 Apr 2020 OP
Trump will surely seize on this customerserviceguy Apr 2020 #1
Didn't they elect a right wing govt. a couple of years ago? Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 2020 #2
No, we did not, I keep seeing this falsehood being posted here. Celerity Apr 2020 #5
Perhaps Inwas thinking of one of the other Scandinavian countries Fiendish Thingy Apr 2020 #6
3 of the 4 main Nordic nations have Social Democrat lead governments, Norway has had a government Celerity Apr 2020 #9
One has to wonder DFW Apr 2020 #3
Sweden experiment will prove or disprove their idea works & if returning to business as usual lettucebe Apr 2020 #4
Russia Today can't be trusted. Mosby Apr 2020 #7
Here. Is that better? LisaL Apr 2020 #8
THIS! 👍 TheBlackAdder Apr 2020 #10

Celerity

(43,242 posts)
5. No, we did not, I keep seeing this falsehood being posted here.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 06:43 PM
Apr 2020

The Social Democrats are in a coalition government government with the much small Greens, buttressed up via a Confidence and Supply scheme with Centre Party (Centre Right), the Liberals (Centre Right) and Vänsterpartiet ie, the Left Party (actual socialists who are never actually in the main government with SD, but support the SD PM)

Our PM is Stefan Löfven, SD, and he is not at all RW, he is an ex labour union ( Svenska Metallindustriarbetareförbundet ie. The Swedish Metalworkers Union) official.

The Moderates ie. Moderaterna (the old Conservative Party, similar to the UK Tories minus much of their moonbattery) were in power from from from 2006 to 2014, but a large chunk of them would be to the left on many things of many of the US Democrats. The US left to right spectrum has been so artificially slid to the right most comparisons to the vast majority of other western advanced nations is borderline useless. There is avery tiny Right party the Christian Democrats Kristdemokraterna, who almost fell entire out of the Riksdag in 2018. They would be like a McCain type, or Romney (minus the Mormon stuffs).

The only truly hard RW Party in the Riksdag is the Swedish Democrats, but even there, on economics and social welfare, they are to the left of many US Democrats. Their RW part is nationalism and ethnicity/immigration. They are more folkhemmet (our welfare state) friendly than many Moderates and KD, L, and C, they just want to boot out many of the refugees and also criminal immigrants. They are basically one issue, and if Sweden had been like Denmark, Finland, and Norway on refugees and immigration, they would never have even made it to the Riksdag (parliament), Åkesson (their leader) would be a floor cleaner, lolol (I jest, but he would have zero power, and never be in charge of what is the 2nd biggest part now in many recent polls (they are the 3rd largest party in the Riksdag post 2018 elections, but are frozen out of power by all the other parties.)

Celerity

(43,242 posts)
9. 3 of the 4 main Nordic nations have Social Democrat lead governments, Norway has had a government
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 09:38 AM
Apr 2020

led by Høyre (The Conservative Party) since 2013, but again, even though they are considered centre right to moderate for the EU, and a lot of their MP's they would be solidly in the US Democratic Party's line of actual governance. There are almost no parties of any size and power in the Nordics or most of the EU that translate out to the US Republicans toxic mix of hatred of government other than the empiric projections, pure corrupted greed, hatred of regulation, hatred of the poor (other than using the hateful ones for their votes) fundie xianism, and outright systemic racism.

Even the Nazis did not have across the board horrid policies in EVERY single area of human endeavour (although their genocidal practices and brutal repression of all opposition, plus agressive waging of war make them far worse overall than the US Republicans) like the American Republicans do. There is nothing of true import that they have an overall good stance on atm, other than they would fight against an armed invasion on US soil (unless Rump makes a deal with Putin for Alaska, roflmaoooooooo, sorta.)


I think, in terms of RW Nordic parties, you might have been thinking about True Finns, ie Perussuomalaiset, but again they have a lot of leftist elements economically.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finns_Party

The Finns Party formerly known in English as the True Finns (Finnish: Perussuomalaiset, PS, Swedish: Sannfinländarna, Sannf.),is a Finnish right-wing populist political party. It was founded in 1995 following the dissolution of the Finnish Rural Party.

In the 2011 parliamentary election, the party won 19.1% of votes,becoming the third largest party in the Finnish Parliament. In the 2015 election the party got 17.7% of the votes, making it the parliament's second-largest party. The party was in opposition for the first 20 years of its existence.

In 2015 it joined the government coalition formed by Prime Minister Sipilä. Following a 2017 split, over half of the party's MPs left the parliamentary group and were subsequently expelled from their party membership. This defector group, New Alternative (later renamed as Blue Reform), continued to support the government coalition, while the Finns Party went into opposition. It increased its representation from 38 to 39 seats in the 2019 parliament election.

The party combines left-wing economic policies with conservative social values, socio-cultural authoritarianism, and ethnic nationalism. Several researchers have described the party as fiscally centre-left, socially conservative, a "centre-based populist party" or the "most left-wing of the non-socialist parties", whereas other scholars have described them as radically right-wing populist. In the parliament seating order, the party was seated in the centre of the plenary until 2019 when they were moved to the right of the plenary despite their opposition to the move.

The party's supporters have described themselves as centrists. The party has drawn people from left-wing parties but central aspects of their manifesto have gained support from right-wing voters as well. The Finns Party has been compared by international media to the other Nordic populist parties and other similar nationalist and right-wing populist movements in Europe that share Euroscepticism and are critical of globalism, whilst noting its strong support for the Finnish welfare state.

DFW

(54,325 posts)
3. One has to wonder
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 05:40 PM
Apr 2020

The government of a normally rational country makes such an irrational error in judgment.

Otroligt ("oo-TROO-likt" ) = unbelievable.

lettucebe

(2,336 posts)
4. Sweden experiment will prove or disprove their idea works & if returning to business as usual
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 06:13 PM
Apr 2020

would be folly.

We will know very soon if their idea of sheltering those at risk and letting everyone else run free works.

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