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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,646 posts)
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 09:33 PM Apr 2020

Voting by Mail Could Be What States Need. But Can They Pull It Off?

WASHINGTON — When Colorado’s 3.5 million voters help select a president this fall, their choice will be made almost entirely by mail, via ballots in postage-paid envelopes dropped off in mailboxes or, more commonly, in bins scattered statewide.

Not so in Alabama. As the law now stands, all voters must cast their ballots on Election Day, at their designated polling places, unless they vote absentee. And getting an absentee ballot is so hard that fewer than 55,000 of 1.7 million voters cast one in the last election.

Election experts, voting rights advocates and a chorus of Democrats are urging states to switch as much as is possible to voting by mail for the November election. Their aim is to ensure that the vote is not plagued by the same nightmare scenario that occurred this week in Wisconsin of voters in masks and gloves going to polls — or staying home — amid the coronavirus pandemic.

The Republican governor of New Hampshire, Chris Sununu, endorsed the idea on Thursday, saying the state would hold its election by mail in November if health risks were still an issue. The Republican secretary of state in Iowa, Paul Pate, raised the same prospect this week. Elsewhere, Republican opposition, like court filings and President Trump’s baseless charge that voting by mail is riddled with fraud, leaves the future of that effort in doubt.

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Voting by Mail Could Be What States Need. But Can They Pull It Off? (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2020 OP
Assuming we can keep USPS afloat 'til then, it's the way to go...nt Wounded Bear Apr 2020 #1
We need a better way of ensuring they get to where they need to be jimfields33 Apr 2020 #2
How did you manage to ornotna Apr 2020 #11
By pointing out facts? jimfields33 Apr 2020 #12
By not parroting right wing talking points for one. ornotna Apr 2020 #15
You clearly were thrilled for Florida jimfields33 Apr 2020 #17
You have a vivid imagination ornotna Apr 2020 #18
In Washington State we have ballot drop boxes in the denser neighborhoods Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2020 #5
I know. Mine is almost walking distance...nt Wounded Bear Apr 2020 #6
MAGATs would blow them up in dense Blue areas Celerity Apr 2020 #14
I wouldn't put it past them. Flaleftist Apr 2020 #21
I agree, some people will find a way to destroy votes that go against their views. Blue_true Apr 2020 #22
FWIW the Governor of Georgia made this Primary all vote by mail, and has said if the situation with napi21 Apr 2020 #3
Florida gives voters a vote by mail option. Blue_true Apr 2020 #24
I agree with you. I wonder if the option you presented of mailing a ballot to all regustered voters napi21 Apr 2020 #29
I usually vote by mail in Florida madville Apr 2020 #30
Colorado will be key in November... VarryOn Apr 2020 #4
I agree on reception of ballots. Blue_true Apr 2020 #25
Alaska just reported double voter participation Locutusofborg Apr 2020 #7
yes they CAN Skittles Apr 2020 #8
All states have absentee voting. Most do not require an excuse. Some do. Hoyt Apr 2020 #9
Not if the USPS collapses Roland99 Apr 2020 #10
California's already got this covered Retrograde Apr 2020 #13
Yep SouthernCal_Dem Apr 2020 #23
Voters in Wisconsin should take control like voters in Michigan did. Blue_true Apr 2020 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #31
The GOP shot down emergency aid for the post office. No post office, No absentee ballots. sarcasmo Apr 2020 #16
Democrats must refuse to approve any bill that doesn't have aid for the USPS. Blue_true Apr 2020 #27
Oregon's done it for almost 30 years nt Nululu Apr 2020 #19
What republicans states are afraid of. Blue_true Apr 2020 #28
We have vote by mail models. Blue_true Apr 2020 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #32

jimfields33

(15,642 posts)
2. We need a better way of ensuring they get to where they need to be
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 09:41 PM
Apr 2020

I don’t trust it right now. Florida finding bins of absentee ballots in southern Florida in 2018. In 2020, Michigan finding hundreds without post marks and binds not delivered. How can we just so easily think this is awesome? I find it troubling.

jimfields33

(15,642 posts)
12. By pointing out facts?
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 10:59 PM
Apr 2020

Do you not care that thousands did not vote? In Florida of all places? How did you get to one post?

jimfields33

(15,642 posts)
17. You clearly were thrilled for Florida
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 12:54 AM
Apr 2020

No other explanation for you stance on missed votes. I wonder if you really are that unaware of news. Maybe you don’t know these cases or don’t care.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
21. I wouldn't put it past them.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 10:42 PM
Apr 2020

Perhaps, security to guard the boxes during the drop off period would be prudent.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
22. I agree, some people will find a way to destroy votes that go against their views.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 10:44 PM
Apr 2020

I think that putting dropoff boxes at Post Offices, community gathering locations like libraries and vehicle registration offices, and making it a federal felony to tamper with them, would work. A person who damages ballots should be pursued relentlessly and when found, tried and imprisoned for at least two decades without parole or pardon.

If the things above are done then the nation could have a safe, effective vote by mail system where everyone that is eligible can easily vote.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
3. FWIW the Governor of Georgia made this Primary all vote by mail, and has said if the situation with
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 10:02 PM
Apr 2020

this virus still exists t the end of Summer we will vote by mail in November too. He's a Repub. Governor so maybe theres some hope of getting the rest of the States to do it as well.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
24. Florida gives voters a vote by mail option.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 10:50 PM
Apr 2020

I don't know what the constraints are though, because I do in person early voting normally. I believe what should happen is every registered voter should be sent a vote by mail ballot, the simple fact that those people are registered means that they have passed the screens that states like Florida and Georgia throw up to keep some people from voting, so there is no rational reason why people on the registration roles should not automatically get a mail-in ballot.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
29. I agree with you. I wonder if the option you presented of mailing a ballot to all regustered voters
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:30 AM
Apr 2020

& llet the voter decide if they wat to still vote in person, they just don't mail in their ballot would fly with the Pubs? Of course, any in person votes require poll workers and we all saw what happened I Wisconsin.

madville

(7,403 posts)
30. I usually vote by mail in Florida
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 06:47 AM
Apr 2020

In election years I just call or stop by the county supervisor of elections office and request to have a ballot mailed that year for all elections.

You do have to make the effort to do that though and you have to affix your own postage on the return envelope. I personally think Florida’s setup will suppress the younger vote if in-person voting is still affected by all this come November.

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
4. Colorado will be key in November...
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 10:05 PM
Apr 2020

I just hope we don't have to wait two weeks for their results.

I'm all for mail-in voting. I just dont like the requirement of a postmark no later than Election Day. I'd prefer a rule where the ballot must be received by election officials by close of polls on Election Day.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
25. I agree on reception of ballots.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 10:58 PM
Apr 2020

All that will be counted should be in the hands of Registrars no later than the end of the day before Election Day, hell, I am even willing to have the end day be the end of the Friday before Election Day. The ballots must be sent out to voters no later than a month after the General Election races are all set.

There should be convenient ballot drop off boxes that have working cameras on them that are sending images to storage every hour. Tampering with votes in the boxes should be a federal felony punishable by no less that 20 years in prison. A mail-in ballot should automatically be sent to every registered voter.

Locutusofborg

(524 posts)
7. Alaska just reported double voter participation
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 10:15 PM
Apr 2020

from what it was in 2016 because of vote by mail. 19,813 ballots were cast by today in the mail-in primary. In the 2016 caucuses, 10,610 Alaskan Democrats voted.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
9. All states have absentee voting. Most do not require an excuse. Some do.
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 10:29 PM
Apr 2020

Alabama’s is a little tougher, but a new excuse could be added, or a relaxed interpretation of this valid excuse should work:

IS ILL OR HAS A PHYSICAL DISABILITY that prevents a trip to the polling place.

Retrograde

(10,119 posts)
13. California's already got this covered
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 11:01 PM
Apr 2020

Here, our ballots can be mailed in (and more counties are going to postage paid envelopes), dropped off at the county registrar, dropped off at most city halls, or dropped off at a number of voting centers in each county prior to election day.

It's a solvable problem - if states want to solve it.

SouthernCal_Dem

(852 posts)
23. Yep
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 10:49 PM
Apr 2020

That's what I do every time I vote.

Fill out the ballot I get in the mail and drop it off at a polling place.

Easy peasy.

Voting should be easy. California makes it easy.

I feel bad for citizens in states like Wisconsin who are forced to jump through hoops just to exercise their right to vote.

It's insane.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
26. Voters in Wisconsin should take control like voters in Michigan did.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 11:05 PM
Apr 2020

Get a system for fair redistricting on the ballot for everyone to vote on. Republican in Michigan know that they are in trouble, they can either change to represent EVERY citizen of Michigan or vanish - that is the way it should be.

Response to SouthernCal_Dem (Reply #23)

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
27. Democrats must refuse to approve any bill that doesn't have aid for the USPS.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 11:08 PM
Apr 2020

The USPS is a business that like all other big businesses, has been seriously harmed by the corona virus, the difference is that the Post Office is a vital business that touches the lives of every American.

Democrats must stop any bill that doesn't have USPS funding from passing.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
28. What republicans states are afraid of.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 11:12 PM
Apr 2020

When states like Oregon, Washington State, California, Colorado went to vote by mail, the prospects for republicans got worse. Republicans count on a small number of people voting to hold office, it is a very much anti-democracy mindset that they have horned to their advantage. They will go down kicking and screaming to prevent vote by mail from becoming widely used.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
20. We have vote by mail models.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 10:36 PM
Apr 2020

I prefer in person early voting, but in these times, that is unwise. If states that don't have vote by mail wanted to, they have model states that they can talk to, California, Colorado, Oregon, Washington State.

Republican led states don't want all vote by mail because republicans know that would end their reign. But true patriots want people to vote and they tailor their message and if they win, their governance toward getting more people involved.

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