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MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 01:55 PM Apr 2020

Trump Wants to Kill the USPS - It Has Been Around Since the Beginning

Delivering the mail is a crucial part of what our government must do. So, Trump wants to stop the mail.

That should be an impeachable offense, in my opinion.

The USPS traces its roots to 1775 during the Second Continental Congress, when Benjamin Franklin was appointed the first postmaster general. The Post Office Department was created in 1792 with the passage of the Postal Service Act.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Service
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Trump Wants to Kill the USPS - It Has Been Around Since the Beginning (Original Post) MineralMan Apr 2020 OP
What country does not have a mail service???? Peacetrain Apr 2020 #1
He wants to privatize it, which is exactly what would happen The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2020 #2
Rural areas would not get served by private services. Blue_true Apr 2020 #7
And even more importantly, getting the mail is an important part of a lot of people's lives. SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #3
Yeah. That is going to end when the Rurals get wind of his goal. Blue_true Apr 2020 #4
Yes. It is the only delivery service that reaches all addresses. MineralMan Apr 2020 #5
They won't believe it until it's a fait accompli. Too late then. Girard442 Apr 2020 #8
They are in a position where they won't suffer. Blue_true Apr 2020 #17
There's a growing movement to buy stamps online. Do it! nolabear Apr 2020 #6
It's the camel's nose under the tent ploy. Turbineguy Apr 2020 #9
Facts about The USPS SBoy Apr 2020 #10
I believe it's the only civilian agency/service actually mentioned in the Constitution... Wounded Bear Apr 2020 #11
That was the conclusion 2naSalit Apr 2020 #18
So many people get their medications through the mail Danmel Apr 2020 #12
The radical Republicans have been working on this for years, & in Trump have found... Hekate Apr 2020 #13
Biden should start ads on this. Karma13612 Apr 2020 #14
Republicans Despise Unions and the Postal Service is unionized dlk Apr 2020 #15
However wise and insightful customerserviceguy Apr 2020 #16
The USPS will out live Trump. nt Progressive Jones Apr 2020 #19
Privatizing mail and education are "business-friendly" Uglicans' two biggest wet dreams. eppur_se_muova Apr 2020 #20
the Sadist in the WH wants to kill amazon, too.. I Cha Apr 2020 #21

Peacetrain

(22,872 posts)
1. What country does not have a mail service????
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 01:59 PM
Apr 2020

Benjamin Franklin established our service.. and a failed reality star who bankrupts everything he touches, want to destroy the hallmark of a country.???.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,596 posts)
2. He wants to privatize it, which is exactly what would happen
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 01:59 PM
Apr 2020

if the USPS went away. He also hates it because he thinks it's in league with Amazon, which he loathes with the fire of a thousand suns because Jeff Bezos owns it and also the Washington Post. Therefore the USPS must die. Because it's a tool of the Washington Post through Jeff Bezos and Amazon. Or something.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
7. Rural areas would not get served by private services.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 02:08 PM
Apr 2020

In fact, those services depend upon the USPS to deliver low dollar packages to many places.

SWBTATTReg

(22,073 posts)
3. And even more importantly, getting the mail is an important part of a lot of people's lives.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 02:01 PM
Apr 2020

They absolutely depended on that mail arriving every day...my dad did, he would walk up to the mailbox several times during the day just to check and see if the mail arrived. He would literally fuss about it until it arrived finally. A lot of people are like this.

Only an idiot would propose sometime like this...I suspect that Congress will have other plans and get around his refusal to accept any monies for the post office, by overriding his threatened veto.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
4. Yeah. That is going to end when the Rurals get wind of his goal.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 02:04 PM
Apr 2020

The USPS is huge for them, it even does last leg deliveries for the private delivery services.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
17. They are in a position where they won't suffer.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 03:00 PM
Apr 2020

Democrats will take over and fix the problem, but unlike Trump, they will fix it for all Americans. So, they will get the service back quickly enough that they will suffer only minor irritation, and they will keep voting largely republican.

Turbineguy

(37,291 posts)
9. It's the camel's nose under the tent ploy.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 02:32 PM
Apr 2020

If you can get rid of the Post Office, we really don't need a Constitution either.

 

SBoy

(92 posts)
10. Facts about The USPS
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 02:36 PM
Apr 2020

1) Seven Unions totaling 500,000 members
2) 142k collection boxes
3) Operates one of the largest fleets in the Country almost 228,000 vehicles, purchased 580,000 tires, used over 500 million gallons of fuel, and covered 1.35 billion miles in 2019
4) bi-weekly payroll of $2 Billon
5) handles 48% of the World’s Mail
6) Accepted over 6.6 million passport applications last year
7) Would rank 44th in the Fortune 500
8) Handled over 142 billion pieces of mail in 2019
9) All accomplished without using a single dollar in US tax revenue

How does the dunderhead who plan on replacing the USPS? And he even has the balls Tweet Saturday




So it’s Sen Schumer that doesn’t care about the American Worker, while he prepares to fire 600,000 of us.

Wounded Bear

(58,601 posts)
11. I believe it's the only civilian agency/service actually mentioned in the Constitution...
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 02:36 PM
Apr 2020

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 7

To establish Post Offices and post Roads


Technically, the gov't is required to keep post offices open.

2naSalit

(86,330 posts)
18. That was the conclusion
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 04:27 PM
Apr 2020

we came to in one of my government classes back in college. It was a Seminar in ConLaw.

Danmel

(4,907 posts)
12. So many people get their medications through the mail
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 02:39 PM
Apr 2020

Many are required to by their collective bargaining agreements. How are people going to get their medications without the postal service and without putting themselves and others at risk?

Hekate

(90,560 posts)
13. The radical Republicans have been working on this for years, & in Trump have found...
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 02:41 PM
Apr 2020

...their perfect tool to complete the job.

The PO was founded by Ben Franklin, f'godsake. Like the Press, specifically mentioned in the US Constitution. Both are a key means of communication is a free society.




Karma13612

(4,541 posts)
14. Biden should start ads on this.
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 02:48 PM
Apr 2020

How it effects me:

I pay for my dental premium monthly, by mail.
If I use any other form or method of payment, I am hit with a fee which is as large as the premium. Not sure why, since it’s the 21st century. All forms of payment should be free of fees.

But the point is, doing away with the postal service would be catastrophic.

Trump is a dangerous ass.

#VoteBlue2020

dlk

(11,514 posts)
15. Republicans Despise Unions and the Postal Service is unionized
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 02:59 PM
Apr 2020

That and Republicans see dollar signs if the service is privatized.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
16. However wise and insightful
Sun Apr 12, 2020, 03:00 PM
Apr 2020

the Founding Fathers were, there were a lot of things they did not foresee.

Yes, they knew that a mail service was an essential for a country that was to govern itself, as well as newspapers. When those were the best ways to spread current news and information, it made sense for them to support those institutions.

They certainly could not have imagined radio, television, and the Internet. Those are the ways that modern people use to communicate, and they're not going away, nor do they need to be subsidized.

Two hundred years ago, nobody could foresee junk mail, either. Some 75% of what we get is that, it would be lower, but my lady prefers some things to be mailed, I have all of my bills, bank statements, etc. coming online, and I pay that way, too. If we really need dead-tree advertising sent all around the country by fossil fuel burning vehicles, then have advertisers pay the costs of that.

eppur_se_muova

(36,247 posts)
20. Privatizing mail and education are "business-friendly" Uglicans' two biggest wet dreams.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:53 AM
Apr 2020

Well, that, and a permanently installed Uglican Emperor, of course.

Cha

(296,848 posts)
21. the Sadist in the WH wants to kill amazon, too.. I
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 12:56 AM
Apr 2020

happen to like amazon.

The USPS is a crucial part of our existence AFAIC!

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