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so she files a claim about an assault, and the public report doesn't name the man. So the report could be about some other man.
When she tells reporters it was Biden who assaulted her she knows she's protected by free speech.
And because Biden is a public figure, the level of proof for him to accuse her of libel or slander is extremely high.
So now it's up to us to decide how gullible to be.
I didn't believe Crystal Mangum -- and I was right. And I don't believe Tara Reade.
Most women do NOT lie about sexual assaults. But there are the exceptions, and we have to use our heads and consider all the circumstances -- like this March 3 tweet of hers.
Link to tweet
Here's the AP story:
https://apnews.com/d922da60baa91121f4529fe51a0fd55a
In two recent interviews with The Associated Press, Tara Reade alleged the assault occurred in the basement of a Capitol Hill office building in the spring of 1993. She filed a police report in Washington on Thursday saying she was the victim of a sexual assault by an unnamed person in 1993, a copy of which was obtained by the AP.
SNIP
In a statement provided by the campaign, Baker said that in the nearly two decades she worked for Biden, I never once witnessed, or heard of, or received, any reports of inappropriate conduct, period not from Ms. Reade, not from anyone.
The AP spoke to five current or former Biden staffers on Sunday, all of whom worked for him at the time of the alleged incident. None recalled such an incident or a report, and neither Toner nor Kaufman could recall Reade. Both said what she had described was out of character for Biden.
She did not come to me. I would have remembered her if she had, and I dont remember her at all, Kaufman said.
Reade said she filed a written report with a Senate personnel office. But she didnt receive a copy of it and has been unable to obtain one since because, she says, Bidens Senate files are currently at the University of Delaware, which has not yet made them public.
SNIP
The AP spoke with Reade about those complaints in April 2019. During that interview, Reade alleged that Biden rubbed her shoulders and neck, played with her hair, and that she was asked by another aide in Bidens Senate office to dress more conservatively and told dont be so sexy. The AP declined to publish details of the interview at the time because reporters were unable to corroborate her allegations, and aspects of her story contradicted other reporting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/12/us/politics/joe-biden-tara-reade-sexual-assault-complaint.html
On Thursday, Ms. Reade filed a report with the Washington, D.C., police, saying she was the victim of a sexual assault in 1993; the public incident report, provided to The Times by Ms. Reade and the police, does not mention Mr. Biden by name, but she said the complaint was about him. Ms. Reade said she filed the report to give herself an additional degree of safety from potential threats. Filing a false police report may be punishable by a fine and imprisonment.
MustLoveBeagles
(11,589 posts)Cha
(297,133 posts)she's despicable.. other than the obvious reason.. what would be her excuse for not naming the object of her accusations?
Thank you for this, pnwmom.
Gothmog
(145,124 posts)Cha
(297,133 posts)dalton99a
(81,443 posts)iemitsu
(3,888 posts)equal the number of Trump accusers.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Warpy
(111,242 posts)Oh, I think Biden's got clay feet to rival any other politician but I don't see him as having to assault anyone. Usually powerful men are surrounded by females who want to audition for trophy wife, although I can't see the guy often touted as the poorest guy in Congress being much of a target.
I'm just sick of this hyperventilation over' "touching." If it rises to the level of a crime, fine, file charges the old fashioned way, provide the evidence, and prosecute. This, however, smells like they're trying to Franken him using her generic police report and hanging his face on it. "Somebody touched me somewhere" really shouldn't fly far and it's already being dissected and found to have a lot of discrepancies.
It makes me wonder what they'd have come up with if Pete Buttigieg had gotten the nomination.
iemitsu
(3,888 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)they don't have jurisdiction in the Capitol or Congressional offices.
If shes a lawyer she should know that.
Dem2theMax
(9,650 posts)I'm going to totally ignore it. It doesn't deserve my time.
This is the one and only time I will respond to this topic.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)But I'm skeptical of the 90s because he was the VP candidate in 2008.
There is a lot of vetting that goes on to make sure there's nothing that could pop up in the midst of a campaign
Also, there was a lot of vetting (by the opposition) hoping to find something that they could use in the midst of a campaign
That's what makes me suspicious and doubtful
Axelrod, Carville and Rove all somehow missed that, or they covered it up?
pnwmom
(108,974 posts)renate
(13,776 posts)I also think the fact that nobody was named in the report is HUGELY significant.
This is so Rovianaccusing your opponent of having your own greatest weak spot. Although in all seriousness, rape isnt Trumps greatest weaknesshis behavior with women was already well known in 2016.
still_one
(92,126 posts)lot of questions
https://medium.com/eddiekrassenstein/evidence-casts-doubt-on-tara-reades-sexual-assault-allegations-of-joe-biden-e4cb3ee38460
I suspect certain circles believe this will hurt Biden, and somehow move Sanders to be the nominee.
That wont happen. 70% of the voters have made it clear they do not want Sanders as the nominee.
Even hypothetically if Biden dropped out, which wont happen, Bidens delegates through a brokered convention would not choose Sanders as the nominee, because 70% have made it clear they do not want him as the nominee
pnwmom
(108,974 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)narrative.
still_one
(92,126 posts)That wont happen
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)she refused to say on the witness stand that it was Bill Clinton, though she keeps saying that in public and has for over 20 years.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)The fact this sounds more like a Trump or Russian smear?
I do not think Bernie would be a part of this. Sounds too much like the Al Franken Republican smear from a woman promised a show on Clear Channel.
What ever happened to her? Dropped like a hot potato after her lie.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)7 or 8 other women came forward.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Claimed anything but that he hugged them or made them uncomfortable and Lee whatever her name was had many revealing photos of her grinding on stage with Country singers, even Al. Comedy is a raunchy business!
She lied to get a show on a Republican site. I am a woman, smart enough to know some women will do anything if they think it will help them.
Many women really are abused and attacked. That is why women like this who change their stories, it grows bigger disgust me!
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)were Democratic activists.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)So what? That makes them paragons of virtue? They have really harmed the true victims!
If you have read the posts right here on this board of women who have truly been attacked you would not be defending someone you never heard of until this week!
The woman has changed her story many times over the years, but she did not even name who supposedly did it in her suit!
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,173 posts)But outside the bounds of perjury, she claims all sorts of things.
And then she goes and attacks women like Christine Blasey Ford who actually did testify under oath as to her claims.
DFW
(54,339 posts)They will have expert legal help to keep all parties involved out of jail when they have milked this cow dry.
Gothmog
(145,124 posts)Link to tweet
The story originated on the left, just about three weeks ago, when diehard Bernie Sanders supporter Katie Halper hosted Reade on her podcast, and encouraged her to tell her story publicly for the first time in 27 years. The story took off from there, on the left and the right, with certain Sanders supporters and Donald Trump backers (whose own man is credibly accused of sexual assault or extreme harassment by more than a dozen women) accusing the mainstream media of pro-Biden bias for not investigating the charges against him.....
Where does this leave us? Reades shifting stories are a huge problem, as they would be for anyone claiming to be the victim of a crime. And as someone who has personally criticized Biden for his persistent invasion of womens personal space up to and including multiple accounts of touching and kissing I find her allegation hard to believe. Is it possible? Sure. Is it probable? No.
And heres why, in addition to Reades credibility issues: in his closely documented, almost 50-year career, there have been no other similar claims against Biden. The Times interviewed the other seven women who came out last year to accuse Biden of touching them against their will; none said his behavior crossed the line to sexual assault. After many dozen interviews, with Reade and her friends, along with lawyers and two dozen Biden staffers, the writers concluded: The Times found no pattern of sexual misconduct by Mr. Biden. Men who do what Reade says Biden did tend to do it more than once (see Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump). Also, once an allegation like Reades surfaces, others usually follow. They have not, at least so far.....
Reporters have done just that with Tara Reade. Her allegation against Biden doesnt stand up to close scrutiny. And bullying by the left or right wont change that.