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spanone

(135,816 posts)
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:17 PM Apr 2020

Navarro Warns Shutdown Could Be More Deadly Than Virus

This guy is truly a piece of shit...

WASHINGTON — As the White House debates when and how to reopen the economy, one emerging argument is that an extended shutdown could pose a more dire long-term health threat to the United States than the coronavirus itself.

Peter Navarro, the White House trade adviser who is now coordinating the country’s medical supply chain, is warning that a prolonged shutdown of nonessential commerce could result in a broad range of negative health effects that he contends medical experts are ignoring in their efforts to flatten the curve of coronavirus cases.

“It’s disappointing that so many of the medical experts and pundits pontificating in the press appear tone-deaf to the very significant losses of life and blows to American families that may result from an extended economic shutdown,” Mr. Navarro said in an interview with The New York Times.

“Instead, they piously preen on their soap boxes speaking only half of the medical truth without reference or regard for the other half of the equation,” he said, “which is the very real mortal dangers associated with the closure of the economy for an extended period.”


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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/us/politics/coronavirus-navarro-economic-shutdown.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
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Navarro Warns Shutdown Could Be More Deadly Than Virus (Original Post) spanone Apr 2020 OP
I think SheltieLover Apr 2020 #1
he should go to NYC and be the toe tag guy demtenjeep Apr 2020 #11
Is he for real???? Desert grandma Apr 2020 #2
The charge of murder by rump or any of his cronies should be seriously undertaken.. SWBTATTReg Apr 2020 #3
Peter Navarro, a self described expert who in reality justhanginon Apr 2020 #4
He is a piece of shit, especially for phrasing it this way ... BUT ... mr_lebowski Apr 2020 #5
Opening up the states should not be considered while the epidemic rages...and more testing is Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #9
I'm just saying it's worth considering what the ancillary health effects are likely to be ... mr_lebowski Apr 2020 #13
I agree, he's right in some respects, but only because there is no real safety net. BusyBeingBest Apr 2020 #17
I'm not an economist. I don't even play one on tv. How would a catastrophic Arkansas Granny Apr 2020 #6
It can only ruin working class people because they have made it that way. We'll see how many brewens Apr 2020 #7
It's become my standard reply to these idiots, but here it is again: jls4561 Apr 2020 #8
unless you are going to make the argument that 2-3 million will die from staying at home... Takket Apr 2020 #10
Sounds like he's rehashing the 'we can't have the cure be worse than the problem' bullshit spanone Apr 2020 #12
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2020 #19
And it turns out that navarro is "More Deadly Than Virus" PSPS Apr 2020 #14
Does he list any of these "very real mortal dangers" and procon Apr 2020 #15
"Opening" too soon is like a patient not taking his full course of antibiotics. Reinfection follows. Midnight Writer Apr 2020 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Apr 2020 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #20
Then go get yourself infected, Pete!! ElementaryPenguin Apr 2020 #21

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
1. I think
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:21 PM
Apr 2020

this ahole should immediately report to work in a low paying job working face-to-face with the public, in a hot zone, with no protective gear. 👍

Desert grandma

(804 posts)
2. Is he for real????
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:23 PM
Apr 2020

What doesn't he understand about the economic crisis IS CAUSED BY THE MEDICAL CRISIS??? Until you have the medical crisis under control, you WILL NOT improve the economic crisis. As a matter of fact, it could make it much, much, worse. These people have already failed in their initial response to this virus.

SWBTATTReg

(22,100 posts)
3. The charge of murder by rump or any of his cronies should be seriously undertaken..
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:24 PM
Apr 2020

by any of the 'blue' states to protect all of us, should they push the collapse of the economy excuse, please! I doubt that anyone will work in an unsafe environment anyway. Forcing Americans to work, I wonder how that is going to look? Just wait, I predict that they'll 'order' a sample state and its workers to 'go to work'. I wouldn't be surprised.

justhanginon

(3,289 posts)
4. Peter Navarro, a self described expert who in reality
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:25 PM
Apr 2020

is an expert in absolutely nothing. Just another of trump's sycophantic hangers on spewing bullshit!

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
5. He is a piece of shit, especially for phrasing it this way ... BUT ...
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:25 PM
Apr 2020

The point overall ... should be considered.

My first concern being how many stupid and/or mentally unbalanced people there are here ... and how many guns they have. And how gullible many of them are to RW/CT propaganda.

Second concern being how many people live paycheck to paycheck.

Third concern being how fucking incompetent the Trump Administration is.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
9. Opening up the states should not be considered while the epidemic rages...and more testing is
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:34 PM
Apr 2020

needed before anything is opened up.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
13. I'm just saying it's worth considering what the ancillary health effects are likely to be ...
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:41 PM
Apr 2020

I'm not saying I know what the logical outcome of weighing those effects are going to be, but I don't think they should necessarily logically be totally ignored.

If 1M would likely die of a virus, but 20M would likely die of starvation ... which do you choose?

Note: not real numbers obviously, but that's the general idea of what should be calculated and weighed.

BusyBeingBest

(8,052 posts)
17. I agree, he's right in some respects, but only because there is no real safety net.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 03:47 PM
Apr 2020

There are people being denied a living right now, and they are going to be reliant on relatively scanty government relief for some time.

Arkansas Granny

(31,513 posts)
6. I'm not an economist. I don't even play one on tv. How would a catastrophic
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:28 PM
Apr 2020

number of disease related deaths affect the economy?

brewens

(13,566 posts)
7. It can only ruin working class people because they have made it that way. We'll see how many
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:30 PM
Apr 2020

like seeing the wealthy come out ahead on this when they have lost everything. They are trying to cash in big time. I really hope we don't let them get away with it this time.

Takket

(21,552 posts)
10. unless you are going to make the argument that 2-3 million will die from staying at home...
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:36 PM
Apr 2020

then that argument falls pretty flat. there is no doubt that the strain of this is going to lead to untimely deaths.... suicides, for instance... but i consider those persons to also be victims of the virus.

and what about all the everyday deaths not happening, does Navarro want to count those in his equation too? Deaths by auto accident? workplace accidents? SCHOOL SHOOTINGs...... none of those are happening now.

in the end the shutdown saves the most lives, and it isn't even close.

spanone

(135,816 posts)
12. Sounds like he's rehashing the 'we can't have the cure be worse than the problem' bullshit
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 01:39 PM
Apr 2020

Navarro's lips are superglued to trump's ass.

procon

(15,805 posts)
15. Does he list any of these "very real mortal dangers" and
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 02:35 PM
Apr 2020

"very significant losses of life "?

Am I going to die because I can't buy a box of Krispy Kream donuts? Well, yeah, that's quite possible! LOL

Am I in mortal danger because I can't get my hair cut and styled? I dunno, but this bedhead look is beginning to grow on me.

Show me the list, Navarro,. Where does it say who's going to depart this mortal coil because some cash registers aren't singing kaching-kaching to fluff up the economy just in time to make Trump look good before the election?

Midnight Writer

(21,738 posts)
16. "Opening" too soon is like a patient not taking his full course of antibiotics. Reinfection follows.
Mon Apr 13, 2020, 03:42 PM
Apr 2020

"Opening" too soon is like spraying a few roaches and assuming your problem is solved. Reinfection follows.

"Opening" too soon is like defeating Trump and leaving a GOP Senate intact. Reinfection follows.

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