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SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:39 PM Apr 2020

I think Republicans are going to get wiped out this November.

I am usually a pessimist of major proportions regarding elections.

And maybe this is just a false sense of optimism brought about by low blood sugar or getting adequate sleep (for once).

But I awoke today with a feeling that the mood of the country has turned so vociferously against everything Republican that they are going to be wiped out this fall.

That goes for president, Senate, and the House.
All will flip Blue and with a majority in the Senate that is filibuster proof.
State governorships will flip.
State houses will flip.
Mayoral races will flip.

I think the R after a name is as toxic as the water in Flint and the air coming out of Agolf Twitler's pie hole.

They are going to be decimated from sea to shining sea.

Call, canvas, donate, do what you can to make this happen!

YES WE CAN.


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I think Republicans are going to get wiped out this November. (Original Post) SoonerPride Apr 2020 OP
We can do it! we can do it Apr 2020 #1
Not with DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #72
Not with that damn attitude. we can do it Apr 2020 #84
I'll get back to you in 6 months N/C DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #85
Ok troll we can do it Apr 2020 #86
Ha !!!!!!! LOL DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #87
Saying we can't win will dampen the vote and should not be posted here. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #102
Point taken N/C DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #108
Between Trump, FOX News, Evangelical Churches and RW websites and Radio, it might be sooner. TheBlackAdder Apr 2020 #83
In more ways than one. Aristus Apr 2020 #2
Even if they don't die, if they won't let them vote by mail they can't vote from a hospital bed. SoonerPride Apr 2020 #6
I hope so, but that is only if the vote is held fairly DFW Apr 2020 #3
You are correct, imo. saidsimplesimon Apr 2020 #7
Part of my feeling comes from what happened in Wisconsin. SoonerPride Apr 2020 #10
That will have to be VERY overwhelming DFW Apr 2020 #19
"...they will be all but wiped off the map".....not a chance, even a small one. Stuart G Apr 2020 #60
I'm sure the Whigs thought they would come roaring back too. SoonerPride Apr 2020 #62
Did the "Whig Party" have the "money" that the Republican Party has at it's disposal? Stuart G Apr 2020 #65
I need to make clear one idea on this.Yes, absolutely yes, Republicans will loose big this November Stuart G Apr 2020 #104
The form and integrity of November 2020 elections is unknown. PufPuf23 Apr 2020 #41
If Moscow Mitch has his way DFW Apr 2020 #43
I agree. Sobering. PufPuf23 Apr 2020 #47
Better believe he/they are burning the midnight oil working on strategy. JudyM Apr 2020 #51
I doubt filibuster proof wryter2000 Apr 2020 #4
Isn't that mathematically impossible? Sucha NastyWoman Apr 2020 #38
Not mathematically... brooklynite Apr 2020 #76
No, but the probability of it is infinitesimal. lastlib Apr 2020 #80
Just kill the filibuster. roamer65 Apr 2020 #95
It's the only thing that has saved us from Republican excess. wryter2000 Apr 2020 #105
That's good but we also need to have additional plans, just because... abqtommy Apr 2020 #5
To hell with the lot of them Blue Owl Apr 2020 #8
Not if those checks go out with his name on them Warpy Apr 2020 #9
Too many e-filers who don't get a physical check. GoneOffShore Apr 2020 #30
Every one of them is a signed confession. HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #37
I think I heard wryter2000 Apr 2020 #50
Just watched snowybirdie Apr 2020 #11
This! SoonerPride Apr 2020 #12
I Don't Believe That For One Second sfstaxprep Apr 2020 #17
The GOP are bleeding members. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #24
Yep Cosmocat Apr 2020 #103
The Absolute Floor Is 25% ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #110
They didn't have the FUX PRAVDA and hate radio 24/7 back then. Lock him up. Apr 2020 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #13
Doubt "wiped out". mwooldri Apr 2020 #14
there are large parts of the country stopdiggin Apr 2020 #42
Debbie Downer here - we can not be certain that this gang of thugs is Kashkakat v.2.0 Apr 2020 #15
If that con man won't accept his defeat... Jeebo Apr 2020 #25
We cannot leave room for challenge and doubt. nilesobek Apr 2020 #71
+1, I'm with you Trump hurts children as policy he's that fucked up in the head uponit7771 Apr 2020 #29
Thank you Kash DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #89
After our big win in Wisconsin, I agree. sarcasmo Apr 2020 #16
Look, I don't want to jinx this ... Under The Radar Apr 2020 #18
+1 Rs hold the levers of power in large parts of this country. stopdiggin Apr 2020 #45
Only if we all show up and bring a friend. redstatebluegirl Apr 2020 #20
I would crawl across a field of broken glass to vote SoonerPride Apr 2020 #22
I only wish the supreme court would miraculously turn blue. BComplex Apr 2020 #21
+1 SoonerPride Apr 2020 #23
No, no, and no!!! We need to act like we're going to win by 1 single vote... SKKY Apr 2020 #26
They can't cheat/win if we show up in overwhelming numbers. liberalmuse Apr 2020 #27
Well also in all fairness, anonymous also stopped Karl Rove from hacking the central tabulators in BComplex Apr 2020 #28
biden's campaign has to be ready for that like obama's was questionseverything Apr 2020 #90
This! and PLUS millions of GOTV votes. YES, WE WILL. n/t MFGsunny Apr 2020 #96
we need overwhelming numbers and to know they are there questionseverything Apr 2020 #111
Abso-frickin-lutely. Kinda like Obama08 PLUS Obama12 on steroids and then 25 million more. MFGsunny Apr 2020 #113
We. The. People. Talitha Apr 2020 #31
The thing I see coming Ani Yun Wiya Apr 2020 #32
I see the cracks, too. RandySF Apr 2020 #33
As expected you are being pilloried by a couple of toxic defeatists HarlanPepper Apr 2020 #34
Total annihilation is the only way HAB911 Apr 2020 #35
I agree. ElementaryPenguin Apr 2020 #36
I know we got majorly burned in 2016 Hulk Apr 2020 #39
People have been thinking that sarisataka Apr 2020 #40
I believe it will be worse for Republicans than the congressional blue wave in 2018. Turnout in the sop Apr 2020 #44
God, I hope so... Salviati Apr 2020 #46
Let's make it so IronLionZion Apr 2020 #48
Don't worry about filibusters... c_junk Apr 2020 #49
They have to. Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2020 #52
IF the voters come out and GOP voter suppression can be held at bay. keithbvadu2 Apr 2020 #53
I love your vision! RobertDevereaux Apr 2020 #54
Great positive message!! Thx Thekaspervote Apr 2020 #55
If you're right, then they cant claim trump was robbed. It would be overwhelming. oldsoftie Apr 2020 #56
I think so too! subana Apr 2020 #57
If Ds control all three branches they need to put in new laws to prevent abuse of the system again. Kablooie Apr 2020 #58
This is a must. Never again can we allow this kind of graft and illegal activity. SoonerPride Apr 2020 #61
in addition keroro gunsou Apr 2020 #81
I hope you are right. OverBurn Apr 2020 #63
I think Republicans are going to get wiped out this November ... Jopin Klobe Apr 2020 #64
I have had the same feeling recently. mwb970 Apr 2020 #66
Me, too. Sick of the doom and gloomers. LakeArenal Apr 2020 #67
I can see the Dems winning the Senate NewJeffCT Apr 2020 #68
Their loyal voters will follow the republicans into their grave. KWR65 Apr 2020 #69
Now. Let's. Make. This. So. DinahMoeHum Apr 2020 #70
From your keyboard fervently and REPEATEDLY to God's screen. calimary Apr 2020 #73
No complacency Old Crank Apr 2020 #74
People are pissed and they are finally seeing the repukes for what they are kimbutgar Apr 2020 #75
I Took a Poll Today OhioChick Apr 2020 #77
Hoover... Watch this space JCMach1 Apr 2020 #78
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2020 #79
Florida is about to explode. And republicans are getting the blame. GulfCoast66 Apr 2020 #82
We've got to feel like we did in 2018 x 10. Assume the worst result and motivate others to vote SiliconValley_Dem Apr 2020 #88
I, too, tend to be pessimistic hangaleft Apr 2020 #91
Hello from Winthrop, Maine. MarianJack Apr 2020 #92
Good. I value a two party system (at least 2) but they have to actually Lucinda Apr 2020 #93
1932 redux. roamer65 Apr 2020 #94
+1,000,000 SoonerPride Apr 2020 #99
I agree it must be the low blood sugar.... Odawg Apr 2020 #97
From your keyboard to dog's ears! Bt raccoon Apr 2020 #98
God I hope so. Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #100
I hope so Bettie Apr 2020 #101
I think they'll get their worst ass kicking since 1964. argyl Apr 2020 #106
It all depends on who is allowed to vote. Lucky Luciano Apr 2020 #107
They'll get wiped out d_b Apr 2020 #109
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Apr 2020 #112
From your lips to God's ear. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2020 #114
I'm thinking you're right Tribetime Apr 2020 #115

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
102. Saying we can't win will dampen the vote and should not be posted here.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 10:37 AM
Apr 2020

We should do noting that that makes it less likely folks will vote.

TheBlackAdder

(28,167 posts)
83. Between Trump, FOX News, Evangelical Churches and RW websites and Radio, it might be sooner.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:55 PM
Apr 2020

.

Since they treat COVID-19 as a joke.

.

Aristus

(66,286 posts)
2. In more ways than one.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:41 PM
Apr 2020

Their most fervent supporters are flouting the stay-at-home advisories.

If they get COVID-19 en masse, expect a good 20% of them to die. Those are election-losing margins...

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
6. Even if they don't die, if they won't let them vote by mail they can't vote from a hospital bed.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:43 PM
Apr 2020

So they are going to disenfranchise a lot of their own base.

Those that they don't kill off with their lunacy.

DFW

(54,291 posts)
3. I hope so, but that is only if the vote is held fairly
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:42 PM
Apr 2020

Republicans don't tend to like to play that way, and they still control was too many state legislatures for us to get complacent.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
10. Part of my feeling comes from what happened in Wisconsin.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:48 PM
Apr 2020

The Rs did everything they could to screw the voters and tilt the field for the conservatives, especially the judge.

They only had 5 polling places where they usually have 180.

They made people vote in th middle of a pandemic.

And still they came.

The vote was overwhelming

And I think regardless of their dirty tricks, voter suppression, purges voter rolls, ID laws, and myriad other ways they try to fuck with the vote, it will still be so overwhelming they will be all but wiped off the map.

DFW

(54,291 posts)
19. That will have to be VERY overwhelming
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:58 PM
Apr 2020

It certainly CAN happen. Look at 2008. But back then, Rove and Cheney knew that there was no way any Republican was going to win the White House short of military intervention on their part, so they backed down, and instead put Citizens United into start position, which they had already started with over 5 years before it was actually upheld by the Roberts Court. This time, they have their Roberts Court, but will probably lose it if the Democrats hold the White House for 12 years. If they let Trump get sent to the political version of the bottom of the Mariana Trench, it's only because they plan to let it be a temporary four year setback.

The key to true victory, besides the obvious Biden win over Trump, will be the victory of Amy McGrath over Moscow Mitch McTurtle in Kentucky. They would rather detonate a hydrogen bomb over Louisville than let THAT happen, and we have to make sure it happens anyway.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
60. "...they will be all but wiped off the map".....not a chance, even a small one.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:33 PM
Apr 2020

...I will give you an example....best example of how wrong this is.....1972 McGovern

there was thinking that we, were...wiped off the map

Guess who got elected in 1976? Jimmy Carter was a Democrat..

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
65. Did the "Whig Party" have the "money" that the Republican Party has at it's disposal?
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:47 PM
Apr 2020

The current "Republican Party" has a whole lot of money..." to come back" Never underestimate the power of money in politics. And also, that money can buy politicians who seem....very moderate and honest compared to Trump..& in opposition to Trump..

..It surely seemed that the Republicans Party was ........"dead after FDR,,and Harry Truman".....

seemed that way...What party was Dwight D Eisenhower?.............and if the Republican Party is beaten to a pulp in November's election..(if that happens) then it will regroup in a couple of years and fight again with unlimited money in 2024. Never underestimate your opponent. Never.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
104. I need to make clear one idea on this.Yes, absolutely yes, Republicans will loose big this November
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 11:17 AM
Apr 2020

....What I was arguing, was the long range outlook....after we win big in November,,,I may have presented the wrong idea to people..
....My thinking is there will be some kind of "Puke Party" in 2024 or 2028. It may not be called Republican, but our two party system has a long history in the U.S.A. With enough money, an opposition party to our Democratic Party is very likely to exist in one way or another. The Eisenhower example was presented to show that even after 20 years of strong Democratic leadership, that the Republican Party survived.
...And YES...This November will be a disaster for Trump and Republicans...Some experienced and very bright Republicans know what is coming...but Trump doesn't have a clue. (in my opinion)..

PufPuf23

(8,755 posts)
41. The form and integrity of November 2020 elections is unknown.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:41 PM
Apr 2020

What is known is that the GOP will warp the vote in their favor.

I am in the camp that questions whether a Fall 2020 election even takes place.

Our political problems run deep, far more than Trump.

DFW

(54,291 posts)
43. If Moscow Mitch has his way
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:48 PM
Apr 2020

The November election will go the way of the Merrick Garland SCOTUS vote.

If he gets anywhere near that goal, we are already done for. He MUST NOT get anywhere close to realizing it.

brooklynite

(94,334 posts)
76. Not mathematically...
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 05:23 PM
Apr 2020

There are 23 Republicans up for re-election. But nobody imagines that ID, NE, ND, AR, OK, SD, LA, WV will flip (some States don't even have serious candidates)

lastlib

(23,152 posts)
80. No, but the probability of it is infinitesimal.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 05:33 PM
Apr 2020

If a giant meteorite struck the central US and obliterated 95% of all living repuglikans in the Plains states, Midwest, and Deep South, but left every Democrat standing, it could happen. Short of that, the GOPee is going to hold some Senate seats, but still lose a few. It's feasible that we could pick up enough to gain a 50-50 tie, or even gain a majority of one or two, but the odds of getting much more are pretty slim.

But we HOPE and WORK for the best possible outcome! Keep Pluggin'!

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
105. It's the only thing that has saved us from Republican excess.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 12:17 PM
Apr 2020

As power hungry as they are, they still left it in place. With both houses and Trump, they could have pushed anything through. They knew they'd need it if they lost the Senate.

 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
37. Every one of them is a signed confession.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:28 PM
Apr 2020

And most people do electronic banking nowadays anyway.

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
50. I think I heard
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:02 PM
Apr 2020

It’s going to take months for all the checks to go out. If so, his name will be a reminder of who delayed getting the money there.

snowybirdie

(5,219 posts)
11. Just watched
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:50 PM
Apr 2020

an old newsreel from 1932. Hoover was so disliked then, they said FDR won 90% of the vote! Love to see history repeat.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
12. This!
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:51 PM
Apr 2020

It might no be 90% but it will be of such epic proportions two years from now everyone will disavow ever supporting Agolf Twitler.

They will swear to you up and down they never voted for him or liked him

He will be that toxic.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
17. I Don't Believe That For One Second
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:55 PM
Apr 2020

These Cult Members are ALL IN. I don't see that 40% floor slipping much.

They'll find somewhere to place blame, but rest assured, it won't be placed in Der Fuhrer's lap.

Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
103. Yep
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 10:38 AM
Apr 2020

He will get at least 40% at worst.

At worst.

The programming of the evil liberal is permanent for nearly half this country.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
110. The Absolute Floor Is 25%
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 04:49 PM
Apr 2020

But a recent poll shows 39% of independents disapprove. So 39% of 50% takes us to 44.5%, at this point.
That's about what "it" got last time.
Third party could ruin the party again.
GOTV and take nothing for granted.

Lock him up.

(6,918 posts)
59. They didn't have the FUX PRAVDA and hate radio 24/7 back then.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:33 PM
Apr 2020

Without a full-on advertizers' boycott on a national basis, they'll still work to demonize the Dems 24/7.

Response to SoonerPride (Original post)

mwooldri

(10,299 posts)
14. Doubt "wiped out".
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:54 PM
Apr 2020

My feeling is that the chances of a Democratic coalition taking control of the Senate is good, and we will be saying “Bye Don”. But wipe out? Probably not as there is about 35-40% base support there for anything R.

stopdiggin

(11,242 posts)
42. there are large parts of the country
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:46 PM
Apr 2020

that simply DON'T vote Democrat. Period. It's going to be a matter of swing states, and electoral votes .. again.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
15. Debbie Downer here - we can not be certain that this gang of thugs is
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:54 PM
Apr 2020

going to go willingly. I soooo hope Im wrong, but the mainstream repub party is not the same as it was in 2015/16. It is now in open alliance with white nationalists and far rw radicals whose intention is to blow everything up (metaphorically speaking). The mainstream repubs are quite ok with the chaos and conflict perpertrated by the cult leader.... after all their openly stated intention for decades now has been to "shrink govt until its small enough it can be drowned in a bathtub" and replace it with .... what..... soviet style oligarchy? Feudalism? They never say, but its some form of the rich get even more obscenely rich, and the poor get stomped into the ground. The middle class disappears into nothingness.

In spite of.... no, because of.... the cult leader's shenanigans, they have been making great progress towrds that goal.

The 30% of america who are cultists have been fed ever more twisted alt-reality propaganda, and are ever more entrenched in their alt beliefs. Last night on Coast to Coast - now a pathetic shadow of what it used to be - some lady was spinning some bizarre tale about how it was Dr. Fauci was involved in the Chinese Lab in wuhan creating these viruses

Anyway all Im saying is.... hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.





Jeebo

(2,021 posts)
25. If that con man won't accept his defeat...
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:05 PM
Apr 2020

...then I hope that's a problem we're going to have. I'd rather he would go peacefully, of course, but if we have to wage a post-election fight after winning the election itself, it'll be a GOOD problem for us to have.

-- Ron

nilesobek

(1,423 posts)
71. We cannot leave room for challenge and doubt.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 05:13 PM
Apr 2020

I don't care if I have to conjure zombies into the polling booth. The consensus has to be overwhelming.

Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
18. Look, I don't want to jinx this ...
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:55 PM
Apr 2020

... but counting the Wisconsin results this week combined with the special elections last year in Georgia, Louisiana, Kentucky and Virginia, all States won by Trump but the votes were blue Dems. Yes there is a trend going on here but a trend doesn’t guarantee anything for November and don’t allow anyone to become complacent.
Republicans still control 38 States* and are working diligently to prevent absentee voting are are reducing polling locations, and there is a virus on the loose ....in short, it is a dead heat

stopdiggin

(11,242 posts)
45. +1 Rs hold the levers of power in large parts of this country.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:51 PM
Apr 2020

Clawing back that territory is going to be a process. An optimistic stance would be that we can get a start on that in Nov.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
20. Only if we all show up and bring a friend.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 02:58 PM
Apr 2020

If we stay home and pout in the case of some of the Sanders supporters, or vote green to "blow up the system", or stay home because the polls say we are winning big and it is raining we LOSE! I have a compromised immune system and I assure you I will put on a mask and go to the polls if I have to to get rid of these Cretans! Will you?

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
22. I would crawl across a field of broken glass to vote
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:01 PM
Apr 2020

Nothing will stop me.

(And I'm bringing my friends with me!)

BComplex

(8,017 posts)
21. I only wish the supreme court would miraculously turn blue.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:00 PM
Apr 2020

THEN, and only then, will we have a chance to right so many wrongs. I just hope there is the determination in the all too proper democratic party to get the millions of things straightened out that have been destroyed by the republicans in the last 40 years.

SKKY

(11,794 posts)
26. No, no, and no!!! We need to act like we're going to win by 1 single vote...
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:07 PM
Apr 2020

...and turn out the vote the same. We can't get lazy or over confident.

liberalmuse

(18,671 posts)
27. They can't cheat/win if we show up in overwhelming numbers.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:12 PM
Apr 2020

It happened with Obama. Republicans cheated, but it wasn't enough to counteract the enthusiasm.

BComplex

(8,017 posts)
28. Well also in all fairness, anonymous also stopped Karl Rove from hacking the central tabulators in
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:21 PM
Apr 2020

some key states.

That, PLUS Americans turning out in astonishing unity to vote for Obama to counteract the traitors trying to steal the election, yes.

We're going to have to make it happen for the next 30 or 40 years. We have a whole lot of shit to straighten out.

questionseverything

(9,645 posts)
90. biden's campaign has to be ready for that like obama's was
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 07:52 PM
Apr 2020

Obama's campaign knew the precincts, he knew where his support was and who had voted and they knew when those votes were reported

that is why when rove was having his meltdown Obama's team was saying, not possible, there physically are not enough people out there to catch us

so what we need to do is count ourselves, help Biden's campaign know who we are and where we are, we can do this!

MFGsunny

(2,356 posts)
113. Abso-frickin-lutely. Kinda like Obama08 PLUS Obama12 on steroids and then 25 million more.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 05:26 PM
Apr 2020
NOTHING, UTTERLY NOTHING LEFT TO CHANCE.

NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LEFT TO CORRUPTION.

NO GOTV STONE LEFT UNTURNED.

NO VOTE LEFT ON THE TABLE. NOT A SINGLE ONE!!!!


 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
34. As expected you are being pilloried by a couple of toxic defeatists
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:27 PM
Apr 2020

But I agree with your assessment, on the whole.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
39. I know we got majorly burned in 2016
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:36 PM
Apr 2020

Last edited Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:52 PM - Edit history (1)

..but 2018 was a Blue Tsunami, and things have NOT gotten any better for the draft dodging coward and con artist since then.

It "should be" a wipe out for the whole repuKKKe party if the Democratic Party and associates can get their messaging out there effectively.
dRumpf and the GOPutin Party have tons more money, but we should have enough to get the job done. This rests squarely on the backs of the DNC.

sarisataka

(18,483 posts)
40. People have been thinking that
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:38 PM
Apr 2020

for nearly 50 years, probably will for another 50.

I don't need them wiped out right now, defeated will do just fine.

If we want to win, the best path to that goal is to wake up every day assuming we are 10 points behind. Doing that each and every day up to November 3, and taking actions to overcome that deficit, will be more effective than trading hi-fives over how poorly Republicans are doing. Let 2016 be a warning, we assumed victory was "in the bag."

I believe however, no matter what we do, it is mathematically impossible to get a filibuster proof majority. ETA- it is mathematically possible but Democrats would have to win 91% of the Senate races

sop

(10,102 posts)
44. I believe it will be worse for Republicans than the congressional blue wave in 2018. Turnout in the
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:49 PM
Apr 2020

recent elections in Kentucky and Virginia last year showed Democrats are still engaged and angry. And that was before impeachment, a deadly pandemic and an economic crisis that will persist beyond the November election.

Trump has absolutely nothing to run on, he has been a complete failure, and all but his most diehard followers realize it. Republicans have lashed themselves to the mast of Trump's sinking presidency, they too will pay the price. As always, turnout will be key to winning big.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
46. God, I hope so...
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:51 PM
Apr 2020

With a supermajority in the Senate, we could remove trump on Jan. 3rd. We don't have the extra two and a half weeks to spare in cleaning up the republican mess...

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
48. Let's make it so
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:55 PM
Apr 2020

they need to be defeated so badly they never try to pull this type of shit ever again. It needs to be like Hoover where they didn't win for another 2 decades.

c_junk

(46 posts)
49. Don't worry about filibusters...
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 03:56 PM
Apr 2020

The Senate votes on rules at the start of the new session, filibuster rules can be modified.

I like your prognostication though...

keithbvadu2

(36,655 posts)
53. IF the voters come out and GOP voter suppression can be held at bay.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:16 PM
Apr 2020

IF the voters come out and GOP voter suppression can be held at bay.

RobertDevereaux

(1,847 posts)
54. I love your vision!
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:17 PM
Apr 2020

And this is EXACTLY what needs to happen.

[Keep in mind, however, that I am a writer of fantasy fiction, albeit dark.]

That said, it's high time that the good guys won . . . massively. Be it so!

oldsoftie

(12,491 posts)
56. If you're right, then they cant claim trump was robbed. It would be overwhelming.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:26 PM
Apr 2020

Only a close defeat can be called a "stolen" election; or one totally the other way; 70-30%. No matter how much we'd like to see it, THOSE numbers wont be seen

subana

(586 posts)
57. I think so too!
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:29 PM
Apr 2020

donnie has proven his gross incompetence & republicans with their blind loyalty deserve to go down with him!

Kablooie

(18,610 posts)
58. If Ds control all three branches they need to put in new laws to prevent abuse of the system again.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:30 PM
Apr 2020

The Republicans have been blatantly abusing our governmental system for years now and this has to be prevented in the future.

If nothing is done they have shown they will do it over and over because holding power is more important to them than governing the country.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
61. This is a must. Never again can we allow this kind of graft and illegal activity.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:33 PM
Apr 2020

Most corrupt administration in history.

OverBurn

(942 posts)
63. I hope you are right.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:38 PM
Apr 2020

I'm very pessimistic about Trump leaving the White House. He'll burn the county to the ground to stay in power.

I did donate some money to help get rid of Moscow Mitch. That would be huge!

Jopin Klobe

(779 posts)
64. I think Republicans are going to get wiped out this November ...
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:47 PM
Apr 2020

... please tell me Capone or Nitti said this ...

LakeArenal

(28,802 posts)
67. Me, too. Sick of the doom and gloomers.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 04:57 PM
Apr 2020

He need to stand up straight look ‘em in the eye and say confidently:
Joe Biden will kick yours and trump’s ass.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
68. I can see the Dems winning the Senate
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 05:03 PM
Apr 2020

And, I can see them netting 5-6 or even 7 seats to give them 52-53-54 votes, but, picking up 14 seats to get to 61 would be bigger than the Republicans 9 seat gain in 2014 and the Democrats' 12 seat gain in 1958.

KWR65

(1,098 posts)
69. Their loyal voters will follow the republicans into their grave.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 05:05 PM
Apr 2020

The south & mid-west are not going to flip democrat.

DinahMoeHum

(21,774 posts)
70. Now. Let's. Make. This. So.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 05:08 PM
Apr 2020

If you are not happy with Biden as our POTUS nominee, then don't piss and moan about the candidates at the national level.

Instead, go and volunteer for DOWN-BALLOT CANDIDATES.

That means EVERYTHING - from school board/library board, village/town councils and mayors, city councils/mayors, county executives/legislators, judges, comptrollers, secretaries of the state, state assembly/state senate, governors, House reps, Senators, etc.

Forget about spending $$$ and time on national candidates. Go local. The races there are just as important, maybe even more so, because that's the most contact most of us have with elected officials. Your money, skills and time go further when you go local.

Wipe our the GOoPers. At. Every. Fucking. Level.







#newrostrong

calimary

(81,110 posts)
73. From your keyboard fervently and REPEATEDLY to God's screen.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 05:15 PM
Apr 2020

'Cause that's what it's gonna take if we're to start seriously repairing and restoring America. Any republi-CONS at any level will do their level best to stand in the way - if for NO other reason than to be able to point toward us and criticize us for breaking all our promises/going back on our word (as they'll characterize it, no doubt) and not doing anything.

Jimmy Carter had to try to clean up nixon's mess - and at least restored some level of trust and respectability to the Presidency.

Bill Clinton had to clean up the reagan/bush mess - and the massive economic damage that short-sighted cheapskate IGMFU* "trickle-down" caused.

Barack Obama had to clean up the bush/cheney devastation - economic implosion, illegal Iraq War/torture-on-parade, and the long slow agonizing climb-back-up-from-Hurricane-Katrina mess.

Now it's gonna be up to Biden, if he gets in, to clean up not merely the usual reckless, thoughtless, mercenary, IGMFU* republi-CON cataclysmic destruction and epic devastation of trump/pence.


*IGMFU = I Got Mine, F-U.

kimbutgar

(21,055 posts)
75. People are pissed and they are finally seeing the repukes for what they are
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 05:19 PM
Apr 2020

Corporatists who only care about big money donors. They have done nothing to help the regular working American. They are intent on taking away the ACA and its protections. Medicare for all is a non starter. And that awful tax cut to billionaires did nothing for the regular working Joe. I’m sure those fox bots cult members will continue voting against their best interests but this CV will lower their numbers. You’re either an idiot or ignorant to not see MF45’s not being a leader during this turbulent time of the pandemic.

I think of that song by Teddy Pendergast wake up everybody. Something that needs to happen.


OhioChick

(23,218 posts)
77. I Took a Poll Today
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 05:24 PM
Apr 2020

Family, Friend and Co-Workers.

I believe if I were to run my dog against Trump, my dog would have a pretty good chance of winning.

One big issue amongst those that I spoke with.....Everyone hates AOC. (The Dems need to shut her up)

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GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
82. Florida is about to explode. And republicans are getting the blame.
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 06:44 PM
Apr 2020

Hundreds of thousands is not millions of our citizens cannot get the unemployment benefits we deserve becomes the system was designed to fail. And Monday 77,000 Disney cast members hit the system. People will be starving in 2 weeks.

The anger is building and will soon boil over.

 

SiliconValley_Dem

(1,656 posts)
88. We've got to feel like we did in 2018 x 10. Assume the worst result and motivate others to vote
Wed Apr 15, 2020, 07:46 PM
Apr 2020

It is important no one listens to encouraging news. Just vote your hearts out and kindly and emphatically encourage your neighbors and family to.

Even if your GOP neighbor wants to vote for R’s down ticket—see if we can get moderate GOP, independents and many many Dems to get Biden in and Trump out

 

hangaleft

(649 posts)
91. I, too, tend to be pessimistic
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 01:37 AM
Apr 2020

But I agree with you, I think this Fall the Rs are going to be wiped out.

That’s the good news.

Unfortunately, in two and/or four and/or eight years, the IOA (idiots of America), who have the memories of a goldfish, will go right back to voting Rs back into power. And we’ll be right back into taking one step forward (must tread forward cautiously! Can’t take chances implementing real progressive policies), two steps back.

Hopefully, I’ll be dead by then. I can’t take another four years of this. Even the administration of a “reasonable” Republican (talk about your oxymorons) would be too much to bear.

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
92. Hello from Winthrop, Maine.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 09:53 AM
Apr 2020

I think we have a very goo chance of sending Susan Collins and her spine of oatmeal the hell home. Our likely nominee, Sara Gideon is, IMHO, a very good and strong candidate!

As always, Donald Trump is an idiot and an ass hat.

#notmypresident

RESIST

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
93. Good. I value a two party system (at least 2) but they have to actually
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 09:56 AM
Apr 2020

be working for the good of the people - not this GOP sleeze fest we've seen over the last two decades...
The sooner these corrupt pols are out of office the better.

Bettie

(16,072 posts)
101. I hope so
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 10:32 AM
Apr 2020

I really do.

I refuse to allow myself to actually believe though.

Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.

I'll probably even end up canvassing. I HATE canvassing. So much, and yet I do it year after year.

argyl

(3,064 posts)
106. I think they'll get their worst ass kicking since 1964.
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 01:08 PM
Apr 2020

But damn them, they're harder to get rid of than rats and termites.

After that beating we got Dick Nixon as president. This time let's sharpen that stake and drive it through their hearts. If we can find it and if it's there anyway.

This time maybe we can. Abhorrent as his policies were, Barry Goldwater wasn't a raving lunatic and monster.
This thang(spelling is correct), he's the vilest creation ever unleashed upon the nation.

d_b

(7,462 posts)
109. They'll get wiped out
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 04:42 PM
Apr 2020

The Supreme Court isn’t hanging in the balance this time.

2020 will be a real election.

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Tribetime

(4,681 posts)
115. I'm thinking you're right
Thu Apr 16, 2020, 07:26 PM
Apr 2020

I'd say Michigan Wisconsin Pennsylvania Ohio Florida Arizona North Carolina possibly Texas Georgia

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